Write4U's complaints about being moderated

[Write4U]

Does the brain generate "consciousness" or is a large part of the source in a higher invisible dimension of space - time somewhat like cloud computing vs having a computer that is not even connected to the internet?

There is one common denominator that all forms of sentient organism share, other than pure chemistry and that is microtubules. All Eukaryotic organisms have them and use them for data processing .

Microtubules are found in all characterized eukaryotic organisms. Thus, the last common ancestor of eukaryotes had microtubules; this ancestor also had the dynein and kinesin motors that operate on the microtubule cytoskeleton (Sweeney and Holzbaur 2016).

See consciousness in microtubules in pseudoscience subforum,

IMO, that alone suggests that MT are an essential part of living organisms, from single celled bacteria to humans, else natural selection would almost certainly have eliminated them from some living and/or sentient patterns.

 

[RainbowSingularity]

I didn't see that specific episode.....
but I really do like that idea!!!!

We could imagine a quark... buzzing around at incredible speeds perhaps saying something along the line of the line by Speedy Gonzales on
the Bugs Bunny show......."Undale, undale..... ariba, ariba.... Yeehaw..... Yeehaw!!!!!!", (padon my terrible spelling of Spanish in spite of my wife being from Ecuador!!!)

it ends up taking over the ship .. almost
salt based
and self propagates through light
but also communicates with light(not sure if thats a conflict)

it is as i recall a mineral light electric based life form
living in a highly salinated layer very deep i the planets surface

so the part of the light confuses me
unless they produce light & so the light helps it propagate as a reproductive cycle exchange
which would explain it self propagating in high light scenarios

i know they smash these science things out in their script rooms to make sure they have solid science behind them

it might have been thought up to represent a brain concept as a living entity

removing all the biological compound and leaving just the minerals and water

the episode is in the next generation
crew member data investigates ... ends up being locked in the laser drill room where the life form trys to attack him with the laser drill and he destroys the laser drill after it has killed 1 or 2 other people who were mining on the planet
jordi deciphers the language with his optical array implant
during which they discover the entity which is a socialist organism of many members
declares war on humans because it believes war has been declared on it as the terraforming laser drillers have killed many of their species(how true this would be to real human space exploration)

it turns out the mining colony manager had suspected it was life but decided to keep mining anyway

they were a forward science party expected to terraform the planet

if rough memory serves

the star trek crew transport a part of it into their science lab where it grows then starts to take over the ship
they manage to establish communication and discuss the situation and then teleport it back to the surface and evacuate the remaining mining crew

after that everything gets a little foggy as one episode bleeds into the other in my memory

star trek next generation
ship is called to check in on a terraforming mining operation

 

[James R]

Write4U:

I do have a problem with mainstream science in that it has become fractured through focus on very narrow areas of inquiry.

Okay. As far as I can tell, that has nothing to do with the topic of this thread, or with microtubules, or with the "mathematical universe". A topic for its own thread, perhaps.

Eaxample: I use the term microtubules instead of neurons when discussing consciousness.

You're missing the obvious fact that the question of whether microtubules play any role at all in consciousness is very much up for debate. You seem to think the matter is settled.

I identify the microtubules as the dynamic processors within the neural network, the organelles that processes sensory data and transports it from the organs and extremities to the microtubules in the brain which store memory and translate the EM data into conscious patterns

I haven't seen you post anything from a reputable source that supports you notion that microtubules are "dynamic processors" of "sensory data", that they "store memory" or "translate EM data" in any way.

All of those claims appear to me to be your own fevered imagingings.

I have proven all my claims. 97 pages of scientific proofs with links and references to scientific knowledge.

Then it should be easy for you to link me to where you proved the ones you just referred to. Go for it.

Tell me where I am speculating or lying.

All your posts about the role of microtubules in consciousness are speculations. So are all your posts in which you support Tegmark's speculative ideas about the "mathematical universe". So are all your posts that speak highly of Bohm's "implicate orders" and all that stuff. All of these ideas are speculative and unproven - both by yourself and by the people who originally proposed them.

If I am wrong, then all the scientist I have quoted or referenced are ALL wrong?

Maybe they are. What's for sure is that nobody - not them and not you - has shown they are right. Get it?

I am not inventing or assigning any magic to any of this, that's what religion does.

This stuff fills the approximately the same role for you that religion fills for Christians.

My belief is founded on and supported by demonstrable FACTS as is required by scientific standards.

No. Your beliefs speculate far beyond where the facts get us to.

We know consciousness emerges from the brain and microtubules are critically instrumental.

No. It would be false to claim that anybody knows that.

The hard fact is that we already possess all the necessary ingredients for consciousness.

Clearly. That is not in dispute.

I only advance Tegmark's simple proposition that a specific neural pattern produces consciousness, which is entirely reasonable backed by hard facts.

Tegmark has not suggested a specific neural pattern for consciousness, as far as I am aware. Please correct me if I am mistaken.

 

[James R]

Write4U:

I take it that your issue with moderation is now resolved. I suggest you post about microtubules and the like in the threads dedicated to those topics. You seem to have reverted to wanting to discuss your pet topics now.