Enmos
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Worlds Most Dangerous Animals?
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A number of posts have been deleted as off topic, pseudoscientific, or religous spam (or responses to such posts).
If you want to discuss or promulgate creationism, take it to the Religion or Pseudoscience sub forum.
If you want to try and argue that Human Beings aren't Phyllum chordata, and aren't class mamalia (in other words, if you want to try and argue that we don't have back bones and breasts) take it to the Pseudoscience sub forum.
If you can't handle the assumptions inherent in a thread topic, then I invite you, nay, implore you to kindly refrain from posting in that thread.
A number of posts have been deleted as off topic, pseudoscientific, or religous spam (or responses to such posts).
If you want to discuss or promulgate creationism, take it to the Religion or Pseudoscience sub forum.
If you want to try and argue that Human Beings aren't Phyllum chordata, and aren't class mamalia (in other words, if you want to try and argue that we don't have back bones and breasts) take it to the Pseudoscience sub forum.
If you can't handle the assumptions inherent in a thread topic, then I invite you, nay, implore you to kindly refrain from posting in that thread.
That is ridiculous. People agree with my posts and you delete my questions and their posts and leave up some pretty stupid responses.
How were my posts creationist? If you say: because i separate humans and animals, BUT you separate insects and animals yet they evolved from eachother. My posts had NOTHING to do with creationism and that was patently disingenuous of you to put that in there.
You are normally level headed and intelligent but i think there is bias in your asessment. Can you ate least tell me how you reached this conclusion from my harmless psots:
1. If you can't handle the assumptions inherent in a thread topic,
2. If you want to discuss or promulgate creationism, take it to the Religion or Pseudoscience sub forum.
And look at this TRippy:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Do_all_insects_have_backbone
I asked why are lions in a different classification as insects yet humans are in same group as lions. Namely "animal kingdom".
You are making two assumptions here that are not neccessarily accurate.
1. That your posts were the only one's deleted (they weren't)
2. That your posts were the ones I was referring to where I mentioned ceationism (not neccessarily accurate).
An opinion founded on assumptions that, in this instance, are based in ignorance (you are not in possesion of all of the facts, therefore there are facts that you are ignorant of).
That answer is wrong.
Insects belong to Phylum Arthropoda, Lions belong to phylum chordata.
Insects have compound eyes, a centralized nervous system, are cold blooded, and possess an exoskeleton, these are characteristics of Arthropods - invertebrates with exoskeletons and segmented bodies.
Lions are warm blooded, have a centralized nervous system, which is contained in a back bone, possess an endo skeleton, give birth to live young, and feed their young with secretions from mammary glands. The possession of a backbone, which requires an endo skeleton, is the reuirement of being a member of phyllum chordata.
Both phyllum chordata and phyllum arthropoda are members of kingdom animalia.
The requirements for membership in kingdom animalia are the following:
1. Eukaryotic.
2. Multicellular.
3. Heterotrophic.
4. Motility,
5. Non-rigid cell walls
So, unless you, presonally:
1. Have cells that lack nuclei, or other definable bodies (for example, the colgi body, or chloroplasts).
2. Are a single celled organism.
3. Use inorganic carbon for growth.
4. Are unable to move spontaneously.
5. Have rigid cell walls.
You belong to kingdom animalia, rather than Plantae, Fungi, Protista, Archaea, or Bacteria.
A debate which would be better had.
1. Not in this thread, which deals with the topic "Worlds most dangerous animals".
2. Not in this subforum, which is the earth science subforum.
More appropriate subfora for this debate include:
Biology and Genetics.
Pseudosciene.
Let this be an end to it.
Fair enough Trippy.
Thanks Trippy for getting this thread back on track! Here’s a couple of news items about resent encounters with irukandji and Box Jellyfish around Australia, just in case you hadn’t read the start of this thread these Jelly fish are the most toxic creatures in the world second only to Reese Witherspoon.
irukandji
“Jumping jellyfish leaps aboard boat
January 11, 2010
AAP
A Filipino ship worker is recovering in a Mackay hospital after a bizarre irukandji jellyfish sting, 25 metres above sea level.
About 5pm yesterday, the man had been fishing off the deck of the Singaporean registered bulk carrier Konmax, which was waiting to collect coal off Abbot Point, north of Bowen.
RACQ - Central Queensland Rescue helicopter crewman Geoff Abrahams told brisbanetimes.com.au it was one of the most "bizarre" rescues he had been involved in.
"It was weird for us - a very strange one," he said.
"We went to have a look at him in the cabin and he was pretty agitated, in pain, and not able to communicate that well.
"He was sweating profusely, he was very pale, he had shortness of breath, he felt numb from the waist down and pain radiating down his back and into his legs.
"It was an interesting one to try to figure out what was going on with the guy."
Mr Abrahams said the man was almost incoherent when intensive care paramedic Brad Watson attended to him in the ship's cabin.
"Once we were able to get him a little more coherent and question him a bit more regarding the history leading up to the onset of his symptoms, we figured out he'd been fishing [off the deck] and splashed with water as well," he said.
"He had a lot of signs and symptoms very similar to irukandji and Brad had known of someone in Broome who was stung while fishing off a vessel, so putting the two and two together, he thought, 'This is a long shot, but I'm going to consider irukandji here.'
"We airlifted him to Mackay Base Hospital and they confirmed the same thing that, yes, it looked like an irukandji sting from 25 metres above the water."
Mr Abrahams said it was not clear whether the man had been stung when he was splashed with water, or when he pulled his fishing line in.
"With irukandjis, you can get stung and not know you've been stung by them and the symptoms can be up to 30 minutes later," he said.
"That's pretty common around the Whitsundays; when people at beaches get stung, they come in from the water and then start to not feel very well at all.
"Often they don't put two and two together and realise they've been stung - it's not like a box jellyfish sting, when you really know something's stung you."
A spokeswoman for Mackay Base Hospital said the man was recovering and in a stable condition.”
Box Jellyfish
“Box jellyfish stings three-year-old girl
TARA RAVENS
December 12, 2008
A three-year-old Northern Territory girl had her life saved by being close to a medical centre after she was stung by an adult box jellyfish, a doctor says.
She collapsed in shallow water last Friday after stepping on the jellyfish, which injected her with venom.
The child was then rushed by family members to the local health centre at the remote Arnhem Land community of Millingimbi, east of Darwin.
A visiting GP to the community, Dr Paul Spillane, said the girl had to be resuscitated before being taken to hospital.
"Thankfully experienced nursing and medical staff in the health centre at the time were able to resuscitate the girl before she was evacuated to Gove District Hospital," he said.
"She was very lucky that the health centre was so close to the beach. Any further and she may not have lived."
Box jellyfish have been responsible for at least 64 deaths since they were first reported in Australia in 1883.
The last recorded death was a six-year-old boy from a remote Northern Territory Aboriginal community in November 2007.
The latest incident has prompted a warning to all Territorians about entering the water at this time of year.
"Parents should realise just how quickly a day on the beach at this time of year can turn into a life-or-death situation," said Dr Spillane.
"The stinger season is here and the best strategy is prevention. Avoid the water and, most importantly, do not let children go in the water."
Dr Steven Skov from the Department of Health and Families says first aid is essential.
"Get them out of the water," he said.
"Douse the stung area with vinegar immediately. If the person is seriously ill, you may need to do CPR."
Dr Skov said that in all cases the patient needed to be taken to a doctor or hospital for a check-up and pain relief.”
Warning this link contains an image of a fatal Box Jellyfish sting you can only see the legs of the corpse with the sting marks but it still might distress some people.
http://lifeinthefastlane.com/2008/12/box-jellyfish-chironex-fleckeri/
“Jumping jellyfish leaps aboard boat
January 11, 2010
AAP
A Filipino ship worker is recovering in a Mackay hospital after a bizarre irukandji jellyfish sting, 25 metres above sea level.
About 5pm yesterday, the man had been fishing off the deck of the Singaporean registered bulk carrier Konmax, which was waiting to collect coal off Abbot Point, north of Bowen.
RACQ - Central Queensland Rescue helicopter crewman Geoff Abrahams told brisbanetimes.com.au it was one of the most "bizarre" rescues he had been involved in.
"It was weird for us - a very strange one," he said.
"We went to have a look at him in the cabin and he was pretty agitated, in pain, and not able to communicate that well.
"He was sweating profusely, he was very pale, he had shortness of breath, he felt numb from the waist down and pain radiating down his back and into his legs.
"It was an interesting one to try to figure out what was going on with the guy."
Mr Abrahams said the man was almost incoherent when intensive care paramedic Brad Watson attended to him in the ship's cabin.
"Once we were able to get him a little more coherent and question him a bit more regarding the history leading up to the onset of his symptoms, we figured out he'd been fishing [off the deck] and splashed with water as well," he said.
"He had a lot of signs and symptoms very similar to irukandji and Brad had known of someone in Broome who was stung while fishing off a vessel, so putting the two and two together, he thought, 'This is a long shot, but I'm going to consider irukandji here.'
"We airlifted him to Mackay Base Hospital and they confirmed the same thing that, yes, it looked like an irukandji sting from 25 metres above the water."
Mr Abrahams said it was not clear whether the man had been stung when he was splashed with water, or when he pulled his fishing line in.
"With irukandjis, you can get stung and not know you've been stung by them and the symptoms can be up to 30 minutes later," he said.
"That's pretty common around the Whitsundays; when people at beaches get stung, they come in from the water and then start to not feel very well at all.
"Often they don't put two and two together and realise they've been stung - it's not like a box jellyfish sting, when you really know something's stung you."
A spokeswoman for Mackay Base Hospital said the man was recovering and in a stable condition.”
“Box jellyfish stings three-year-old girl
TARA RAVENS
December 12, 2008
A three-year-old Northern Territory girl had her life saved by being close to a medical centre after she was stung by an adult box jellyfish, a doctor says.
She collapsed in shallow water last Friday after stepping on the jellyfish, which injected her with venom.
The child was then rushed by family members to the local health centre at the remote Arnhem Land community of Millingimbi, east of Darwin.
A visiting GP to the community, Dr Paul Spillane, said the girl had to be resuscitated before being taken to hospital.
"Thankfully experienced nursing and medical staff in the health centre at the time were able to resuscitate the girl before she was evacuated to Gove District Hospital," he said.
"She was very lucky that the health centre was so close to the beach. Any further and she may not have lived."
Box jellyfish have been responsible for at least 64 deaths since they were first reported in Australia in 1883.
The last recorded death was a six-year-old boy from a remote Northern Territory Aboriginal community in November 2007.
The latest incident has prompted a warning to all Territorians about entering the water at this time of year.
"Parents should realise just how quickly a day on the beach at this time of year can turn into a life-or-death situation," said Dr Spillane.
"The stinger season is here and the best strategy is prevention. Avoid the water and, most importantly, do not let children go in the water."
Dr Steven Skov from the Department of Health and Families says first aid is essential.
"Get them out of the water," he said.
"Douse the stung area with vinegar immediately. If the person is seriously ill, you may need to do CPR."
Dr Skov said that in all cases the patient needed to be taken to a doctor or hospital for a check-up and pain relief.”
Warning this link contains an image of a fatal Box Jellyfish sting you can only see the legs of the corpse with the sting marks but it still might distress some people.
http://lifeinthefastlane.com/2008/12/box-jellyfish-chironex-fleckeri/
... Did a moderater remove my photo?
You’re photo? Of what? If you mean the fatal jellyfish sting it's in the link at the bottom of my posting.
Did you post something similar?
Fraggle Rocker
Staff member
When and how did you post it? If it's a photo gallery website sometimes the links expire.
The other day it wasn't showing. Hmm. It's probably this damnable hp laptop I'm using. I should really get a new one...
YES. I live, I consume, and I have a carbon footprint. I am a dangerous animal.
A good answer.:cheers:
ha, sure.