river-wind
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What is a "source code monopoly"?
No. WTF! do you not get about the fact that they cannot do crap because software monopolists, namely MS, has monopoly on source code?
It is when source code gets pattented instead of applications. I think it's like when you write a book. Instead of copyrighting the book, I copyright the each word and sentance. Therefore, nobody can publish a book without my permission if their book contains any words or sentances that I have already copyrighted.What is a "source code monopoly"?
What you cannot do is publish software that you develop and deserve full profit from because some monopolist likely has a patent on the source code. Patenting source code is the same thing as patenting words and sentances in a book.what can't I do?
Yes. There are as many developers out there who write their own source code, and cannot use it because it has been patented by a monopolist who claims ownership over it. I write a sentance in a book. Oh but I cannot publish the book freely because somebody else wrote the same sentance, and copyrighted it.You can if you write your own source code. There are thousands of independent coders. Many of them make a good living.
No. WTF! do you not get about the fact that they cannot do crap because software monopolists, namely MS, has monopoly on source code?
MS goes out of business or not is irrelevant if developers have freedom to develop. More and better software cannot be developed because of MS monopoly.
Strawman. Choice between crap that is crap and a software monopoly is not the same thing is real choice. MS has monopoly. Therefore, choices are severely impaired. There are no OSs that come closer to anything but a distand range to Windows with exception of Mac. It is a monopoly. That is how monopolies work. You do not have competition. You monopolize everything so that the only choice is yours.
You are proposing that it is better for end-users that MS have a monopoly. You are then asserting that end-users have lots of choices on OS. This is not only a contradiction, but absolutely false.
1. If MS did not have monopoly, then developers will have more freedom to develop OS and apps. MS monopoly severely impairs developers from developing and releasing OS and apps.
2. Many OS distros are irrelevant to end-user choice.
There cannot be any other significant choice of OS for end-users because of MS monopoly.
Customers do not have choice in any significant form. They either choose Windows or they die.
Claiming that customers have choice because of so many Linux distros is a joke and severe dillusion.
It is not realistic in the slightest. The reality is that Windows is the only choice that can be considered worthwhile for PCs.
3. The reason there are not more OSs and apps out there to choose from is because of MS monopoly.
4. Any real world effects as a result of end-user freedom to choose OS are nothing but positive. Any negative effects are actually positive. There is nothing negative that can come out of freedom of development and freedom of choice. However, MS monopoly is nothing other than a burden on innovation and end-user freedom.
It is when source code gets pattented instead of applications. I think it's like when you write a book. Instead of copyrighting the book, I copyright the each word and sentance. Therefore, nobody can publish a book without my permission if their book contains any words or sentances that I have already copyrighted.
It is not necessarily that MS products are that horrible. It's that MS is an asshole that unfairly prevents other companies from fully profiting from software that the other company has fully develop.
Do you not get the concept of free market? Businesses succeed on competition. If they cannot compete, they die. All else is irrelevant. Good bye to any company that cannot cut it.
Agreed Enterprise-D, though I think there is some confusion of terms going on.
NO ONE owns a patent on source code here in the US. The law does not allow for such a thing.
The closest thing to a source code patent is the copyright protection granted to any novel work; fiction, painting, movie, or programming code...
I think the USPTO grants these patents because they don't understand computers, and fail to realize the nature of the patents they are granting.
---Linux
I tried to put Ubuntu on my old laptop recently. After tinkering for a week to try and get the wifi running with my particular laptop, the display fried so bad that even in BIOS the screen is littered with symbols and crap.
Linux can go to hell, and I will NOT be entertaining anymore "have you tried..." and "can you run this in terminal and show me what it says...". So help me god if anyone tries!
*pant... pant... pant...* whew, I'm okay now.
But yeah, macs are cute. Linux is the bane of my existence and cost me a laptop.
Not to mention overall office/network cost - we've discussed workstation pricing, but have any of you looked at the cost of server licensing? An OSX server unlimited user license costs $999. Windows Server 2008 is $3,999 for 25 users, plus $200 for every 5 users more.
Excessively unfair comparison. Your Windows Server cost is for Windows Server Enterprise edition. Windows Server Standard is $1080 with a 10 user CAL.
I'm also pretty sure that various IT professionals have looked at the features and application offerings of OSX Server v Windows Server, and found Windows Server to be more beneficial beyond merely comparing the acquistion cost. How else do you explain the almost total disinterest in a Mac server?