Why do theists reject evolution?

[foghorn]

Coconuts are hidey holes for squids

That's incredible, you could say he's using his nut. But, I don't think it would fool a whale.

 

[Jan Ardena]

I understand how crushing it must feel for someone as delusional as yourself.

Lol!!! You believe darwinism is true, and you call me deluded
If communism wasn't so horribly detrimental to humans, that would be really funny.

 

[billvon]

Lol!!! You believe darwinism is true, and you call me deluded
If communism wasn't so horribly detrimental to humans, that would be really funny.

On the other hand, your studied ignorance is really funny.

 

[Jan Ardena]

On the other hand, your studied ignorance is really funny.

Coming from someone who believes doggy types turn into whales.
How does it feel to to accept something as true, knowing it is not even possible, but you accept it because you want to deny God?

 

[(Q)]

Coming from someone who believes doggy types turn into whales.
How does it feel to to accept something as true, knowing it is not even possible, but you accept it because you want to deny God?

Ah, I see you've re-winded your "Creationist Argument" tape and are starting it from the beginning..., again. Learning, bad. Ignorance, good.

 

[Beer w/Straw]

...because you want to deny God?

Boring.

Talk about God with margaritas. Then you'll make me cum.

 

[(Q)]

How does it feel to to accept something as true, knowing it is not even possible, but you accept it because you want to deny God?

If we wanted to deny God, we'd just say so, like this:

"We deny God"

See, that wasn't very hard to do and it didn't require the need to invoke science.

Of course, the statement is meaningless anyways, it's the same as saying, "We deny Unicorns"

 

[billvon]

Coming from someone who believes doggy types turn into whales.

Over millions of years - they do indeed. Just like chimpanzees and humans shared a common ancestor some six million years ago. Them's the facts.

How does it feel to to accept something as true, knowing it is not even possible, but you accept it because you want to deny God?

I don't deny God. You deny facts.

I prefer my approach.

 

[Michael 345]

This might be of interest

Evolution of parts of a smashed watch simulation on computer, 9 minutes



One for Jan - 6 minutes

 

[Write4U]

Lol!!! You believe darwinism is true, and you call me deluded

And why is Darwinian "evolution by natural selection" not true? That is the OP question, no?

If communism wasn't so horribly detrimental to humans, that would be really funny.

And what does communism have to do with evolution?

Two simple questions. Do you have an answer to either one?

I'll help you along.

Nature of primitive communist societies

In a primitive communist society, all able bodied persons would have engaged in obtaining food, and everyone would share in what was produced by hunting and gathering. There would be no private property, which is distinguished from personal property[6] such as articles of clothing and similar personal items, because primitive society produced no surplus; what was produced was quickly consumed and this was because there existed no division of labour, hence people were forced to work together. The few things that existed for any length of time (tools, housing) were held communally,[7] in Engels' view in association with matrilocal residence and matrilineal descent.[8] There would have been no state.

Domestication of animals and plants following the Neolithic Revolution through herding and agriculture was seen as the turning point from primitive communism to class society as it was followed by private ownership and slavery, with the inequality that they entailed. In addition, parts of the population specialized in different activities, such as manufacturing, culture, philosophy, and science which is said to lead to the development of social classes.[7]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primitive_communism

 

[Vociferous]

I've asked this before, but is ragging on Jan really that much fun?
Or does he really offer enough of a challenge for you to get a sense of satisfaction from it?

When did you ask?
Did you ask?

Pretty sure I have. Don't really care when or if.

But you sure seem keen on not answering.

 

[paddoboy]

"We deny God"

I simply prefer that we have no evidence for any God, and that supernatural and paranormal gap fillers are unscientific anyway.

People, many people chose to accept God/supernatural, simply because humanity has had a much longer period when the awe, wonder and mystery of the universe around him, could not be answered by science and the scientific method.
While many of those questions are now scientifically answered, the conventions handed down through the ages, the hard to accept fact, that humanity and life in general was just an accidental chemical reaction, coupled with the fear of death and finality by some, sees religion and supernatural beliefs continue with some.

 

[Write4U]

While many of those questions are now scientifically answered, the conventions handed down through the ages, the hard to accept fact, that humanity and life in general was just an accidental chemical reaction, coupled with the fear of death and finality by some, sees religion and supernatural beliefs continue with some.

I agree and I can understand why a justifiable awe and wonder of this reality would lead one to think of some "special event " that has resulted in this vibrant universe and life within it.

Every one accepts that premise, but this does not need to be a special motivated plan by an unknown sentience, who can reward a fruitful life with eternal life, except as a metaphor for continued life.

We do know that regular patterns (such as life) can emerge spontaneously from Chaos. No intent is required. And for a religious institution to reject Darwinian evolution in favor of some undefined magic trick is a plain old confidence game.

Even as the Catholic Church accepts evolution, it rejects Darwinian evolution, because it contradicts Original Cause, an idea for which, ironically, millions have died and been relegated to oblivion, instead of living a long fruitful life and having the living reward and joy of watching many offspring insuring continuance of life itself....

 

[Write4U]

Several animals have webbed feet, which are only useful in aquatic environment. My White Labrador had enormous webbed feet and was a fantastic swimmer even in strong currents.

It seems to me that dogs are a wonderful example of evolutionary adaptability.
Different dog breeds have paws adapted to navigate their natural habitat.

While the eyes, ears and tails of your dog may get most of the attention for their expressiveness, don't underestimate the power of paws! Aside from just being awfully sweet, the paws are wonderfully designed appendages that enable canines to perform their feats of doggie derring-do. Whether slender and elegant, bold and athletic, or floppy and furry, a dog's trotters are a fascinating study in anatomy and adaptation.

13. Newfoundlands have the longest toes of all breeds, and Labrador retrievers come in second. Both breeds also have webbed feet, which helps make them excellent swimmers. Other breeds with webbed feet include the Chesapeake Bay retriever, Portuguese water dog, field Spaniel and German wirehaired pointer.

14. Some breeds have what are called "cat feet." These have a short third digital bone, resulting in a compact feline-like foot; this design uses less energy to lift and increases the dog's endurance. You can tell by the dog's paw print: cat feet prints are round and compact. Akita, Doberman pinscher, giant schnauzer, kuvasz, Newfoundland, Airedale terrier, bull terrier, keeshond, Finnish spitz, and old English sheepdog all have cat feet. (But don't tell them that.)

Consider the following: Anatomy of the Paw

1. Of the 319 bones, on average, that comprise a dog's skeleton, a handful of those (so to speak) are dedicated to the paws. Along with bones, dog feet include skin, tendons, ligaments, blood supply and connective tissue.
2. Paws are made up of the following five components:

For your pleasure: illustrated with the paw of a 4-week-old puppy. Eric

https://www.treehugger.com/things-you-didnt-know-about-dog-paws-4864204#:~:text=Newfoundlands

 

[James R]

Coming from someone who believes doggy types turn into whales.

It might be comforting to you to pretend that it's a mere matter of choosing to believe or not to believe, but science isn't primarily about what people believe. It goes on evidence. The evolution of whales is well evidenced. But you're already well aware of that.

Jan, if it makes you feel better, nobody is forcing you to believe in evolution. You can stick your head in the sand if your religion can't cope with the reality. I won't mind. But I don't see any point in your preaching the faith that evolution is false. Not to people who know something about evolution. Besides, we know that you know, too, because we taught you all about it. So what's the point?

 

[Write4U]

Jan, if it makes you feel better, nobody is forcing you to believe in evolution

The Pontifical Academy of Science (Vatican) isn't forcing Jan to believe evolution, but it does admit evolution is true.

Jan, are you prepared to declare the Vatican wrong? They agreed with you for a couple of millenia, but since 1950 have changed the narrative, declaring evolution is true, but does not contradict Original Creation.

 

[Jan Ardena]

If we wanted to deny God, we'd just say so, like this:
"We deny God"

No you wouldn’t, because it would reveal that you know God Is. You need to pretend there is no God, to keep yourself from being truthful to yourself.
“The fool doth day, in his heart, there is no God

And why is Darwinian "evolution by natural selection" not true? That is the OP question, no?

Doggy-types turning into whales isn’t true.
It is a big fat lie. Darwinism is something to replace religion, for the fools that believes there is no God.

And what does communism have to do with evolution?

I’m not talking about “Evolution”, I’m talking about “darwinism”. Darwinism is a religion for foolIsh people who accept and believe there is no God.

The evolution of whales is well evidenced. But you're already well aware of that.

No it’s not. It is merely a conclusion, with no real evidence.

Jan, if it makes you feel better, nobody is forcing you to believe in evolution.

I accept evolution. Everybody does. It’s darwinism that is the problem.

 

[Jan Ardena]

The Pontifical Academy of Science (Vatican) isn't forcing Jan to believe evolution, but it does admit evolution is true.

Everybody accepts evolution is true.
Fools believe the material world created itself, and that darwinism is true.
It’s quite funny how ultra smart folk, can be so unintelligent.

 

[Jan Ardena]

Jan, are you prepared to declare the Vatican wrong?

Err... yeah!

They agreed with you for a couple of millenia, but since 1950 have changed the narrative, declaring evolution is true, but does not contradict Original Creation.

They also harbour and protect homosexual priests, and pedofiles. Neither of which is sanctioned by Jesus, Mary, God, or any scripture. It doesn’t put them in a good light.

 

[Write4U]

Err... yeah!

They also harbour and protect homosexual priests, and pedofiles. Neither of which is sanctioned by Jesus, Mary, God, or any scripture. It doesn’t put them in a good light.

But they do believe in Evolution, which has nothing to do with Pedophilia, God, Jesus, Mary, or any Scripture, and does put Darwin in a very good light, considering the unanimity of agreement on that matter, despite your vehement protestations.

Oh, are you telling me that you are the only one who "knows" the true God, or Jesus, or Mary, or all scripture and that the rest of the world is all wrong in their beliefs, theists and atheists alike.
Well, isn't that precious.......