I remember some very profound anti-semitic posts from you.:bugeye:
Why do I feel like a stranger in my own country?
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I remember some very profound anti-semitic posts from you.:bugeye:
Fraggle Rocker
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We Americans all think that Australia is just like here, except in a 50-year time warp. Haven't you already gotten waves of immigrants, and haven't their children and grandchildren all assimilated and become Australian like you? That's what invariably happens here. 150 years ago our people looked down on the Chinese, 125 years ago on the Irish, 100 years ago on the Slavic peoples, 75 years ago on the Italians. Now their descendants are all as American as apple pie and they've joined the descendants of the English, French, Dutch and Germans in looking down on the Latinos, Indians and Ghanaians. And in a generation or two those people's descendants will be eating pizza and playing baseball and looking down on whatever people are immigrating then. Is Australia not a Melting Pot like the USA?
What an utterly preposterous thing for a "British" person to say. I thought you people looked down on us Americans for not knowing history! You're not even "British," you stole that name from the native Celtic people whom the Anglo-Saxon invaders conquered, marginalized and displaced. Then in 1066 the Normans came and did the same thing to the "Anglisc" people, although this time they intermarried with them and that resulted in a mixed ethnicity. Your national "identity" is nothing but a hodgepodge of one group of foreigners conquering the descendants of another. You, of all nationalities, have no right to complain about "invasions" of foreigners!
What, pray tell, is "white culture"? Our national food is pizza. The rock and roll music which symbolizes America to much of the world is a Latin American backbeat superimposed over the R&B that was created by African-Americans. Our breweries were all built by Germans.
Where do you live, Siberia? You known nothing of Mexico or Latin America. Latin America is like the rest of the Americas, a huge Melting Pot. They have all had huge waves of immigration. Mexico had a presdient name Guzman, Brazil had one named Kubitschek, Venezuela had one named Betancourt and Peru had one named Fujimori. The major difference between Latin America and the United States is that they did not marginalize their former slaves, so they now have no separate "black community" with its own food, music, slang and social customs.
Yes, religion is often the greatest divider. That's the problem in Iraq (Sunni/Shia) and Yugoslavia (Catholic/Orthodox/Muslim). It was briefly a problem here in the late 19th Century in the South, when the KKK persecuted Catholics and Jews, but in general America has escaped serious religious strife. Most immigrants either are Christians before they come or convert when they arrive. Jews are so happy not to be persecuted that their community has become largely secular and is vanishing into the Melting Pot. It will be interesting to see whether the grandchildren of the new immigrants from Muslim countries follow the same pattern and either assimilate to America's dominant religion or become irreligious.
They left the countries in which their roots lie in order to find prosperity. If they don't find it here, what makes you think they'll be any more likely to stick around and be poor in a foreign country?
Governments like immigrants because they:
Drive down inflation
They will work for less, and harder.
They are motivated people with some spirit in them,
otherwise they wouldn't move
They cost nothing to educate and bring to working age
When a country loses a fit 20 year old to join our workforce,
they might as well be writing our government a cheque for £100,000.
It's a steal.
Do you think the US would have 20,000,000 immigrants (UK probably4,000,000) if the governments were serious about keeping them out?
They want them. They just can't make it part of their official policy.
Drive down inflation
They will work for less, and harder.
They are motivated people with some spirit in them,
otherwise they wouldn't move
They cost nothing to educate and bring to working age
When a country loses a fit 20 year old to join our workforce,
they might as well be writing our government a cheque for £100,000.
It's a steal.
Do you think the US would have 20,000,000 immigrants (UK probably4,000,000) if the governments were serious about keeping them out?
They want them. They just can't make it part of their official policy.
<< What, pray tell, is "white culture"? Our national food is pizza. The rock and roll music which symbolizes America to much of the world is a Latin American backbeat superimposed over the R&B that was created by African-Americans. Our breweries were all built by Germans. >>
To be fair...they ARE white...apart from the music.
To be fair...they ARE white...apart from the music.
I don't know why the Aussies and the Yanks are complaining...the US was built on immigration purely because it was a vast under-populated continent and, despite this immigration..
“England is now nearly twice as crowded as Germany, four times France and twelve times the US"
So if all were fair...the Aussies and US should be taking in far MORE immigrants.
“England is now nearly twice as crowded as Germany, four times France and twelve times the US"
So if all were fair...the Aussies and US should be taking in far MORE immigrants.
Fraggle Rock is being slightly disingenous when it comes to immigration...Muslims really aren't welcomed at all in the USA and are more likely to find themselves ghettoised alongisde all the other immigrants (whilst the whites live in rish gated communities) I know people who live in the US and most neighborhoods rarely intermix at night anymore..or even during the day. The new batch of Muslims in particular are cold shouldered by the Americans and are generally not welcomed at all or even given Mosques to worship in (unlike Europe).
Mexicans fill the lowliest of jobs and the Black population distrust the Jews and seem more and more prone to join up with Louis Farrakhan due to their mistreatment.
All in not well I'm afraid...it is an Empire that is ready to fall. I'd suggest that the Chinese and the Eastern Countries will take over...Putin, having fooled Bush and turned him into a poodle is handing lots of armaments and cash to the Muslim world and its only a matter of time before the US economy collapses.
Mexicans fill the lowliest of jobs and the Black population distrust the Jews and seem more and more prone to join up with Louis Farrakhan due to their mistreatment.
All in not well I'm afraid...it is an Empire that is ready to fall. I'd suggest that the Chinese and the Eastern Countries will take over...Putin, having fooled Bush and turned him into a poodle is handing lots of armaments and cash to the Muslim world and its only a matter of time before the US economy collapses.
Originally Posted by Count Sudoku
Non white countires are funny. They don't let in a flood of foreigners to colonize their country. Look at Mexico for example. ”
I know Mexico has one of the most strict immigration policies in the World. As for the rest of Latin America, whatever immigration they allow isn't racially transforming the area like most white countries.
Originally Posted by Count Sudoku
First off, there are way more differences than skin color. Second, if you look at Rwanda, Yugoslavia and Iraq you'll see the consequences of forcing different people to live in the same country.
Thank you. Religious diversity is a weakness as well.
Originally Posted by Count Sudoku
Diversity will be a real blessing if you find ourselves in another depression. Imagine 1929 with half the population non-white. ”
I don't want them here period. Most white people won't want them here either if there is an economic collapse and intense competition for resources.
Non white countires are funny. They don't let in a flood of foreigners to colonize their country. Look at Mexico for example. ”
I know Mexico has one of the most strict immigration policies in the World. As for the rest of Latin America, whatever immigration they allow isn't racially transforming the area like most white countries.
Originally Posted by Count Sudoku
First off, there are way more differences than skin color. Second, if you look at Rwanda, Yugoslavia and Iraq you'll see the consequences of forcing different people to live in the same country.
Thank you. Religious diversity is a weakness as well.
Originally Posted by Count Sudoku
Diversity will be a real blessing if you find ourselves in another depression. Imagine 1929 with half the population non-white. ”
I don't want them here period. Most white people won't want them here either if there is an economic collapse and intense competition for resources.
Massive legal immigration is official government policy and while it beneftis a few interest groups it works against the average citizen.
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i love that i live in a multicultural envoiroment, i find that in mixed areas people are less racist. i live in the london inner city, we have every race you can imagine here and its great. the only people who dont like it are the old fashioned white racists who cant accept change.
english culture is still there it has not gone anywhere, but we have aquired new culture to go alon side it. i find that out in the all white suburbs the white people are more racist.
i love the look old fashioned racist peoples faces when i can tell they hate it but have not got the balls to say anything openly. i really love it so much.
praise change.
peace.
english culture is still there it has not gone anywhere, but we have aquired new culture to go alon side it. i find that out in the all white suburbs the white people are more racist.
i love the look old fashioned racist peoples faces when i can tell they hate it but have not got the balls to say anything openly. i really love it so much.
praise change.
peace.
Challenger78
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I know how you feel, I went on a camp where there were all country boys, and here i was a foreigner (from a different city and country) they weren't too bad, i suppose i'd be suspicious too if i were them. but the initial reaction and random ways they looked at me was hard to get over. Once you do, then you are fine.
But yeah, i enjoy having dinner at my (white) friends places and inviting them over to mine. Its interesting, to say the least.
But yeah, i enjoy having dinner at my (white) friends places and inviting them over to mine. Its interesting, to say the least.
Challenger:
Imagine the same situation, but reversed. You are the minority, the outsider, in your OWN country!
Imagine the same situation, but reversed. You are the minority, the outsider, in your OWN country!
Challenger78
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Your country has changed, keep up. If not, go adopt another country, Harsh but true.
Sort of the like the Jews should have been forced to adopt another country after the rise of Hitler? 
Merely because my country is changing, does not mean I should accept that change. If the change is for the worst, I will be vocal, and fight that change.
Merely because my country is changing, does not mean I should accept that change. If the change is for the worst, I will be vocal, and fight that change.
Challenger78
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Thats your prerogative. And yes, they should have been forced to adopt another country and not take one from the people of Palestine.
And for those who might call me anti semitic after this know its the truth.
So unless you can take say, Norfolk Island for yourself and establish a white culture only state, then go and join Pauline Hansen
And for those who might call me anti semitic after this know its the truth.
So unless you can take say, Norfolk Island for yourself and establish a white culture only state, then go and join Pauline Hansen
Laughable.
And what did they leave behind, CT?
The Moors excelled in city planning; the sophistication of their cities was astonishing. Cordova alone "had 471 mosques and 300 public baths … the number of houses of the great and noble were 63,000 and 200,077 of the common people. There were … upwards of 80,000 shops. Water from the mountain was distributed through every corner and quarter of the city.
They turned a primitive society and transformed it into one of the greatest cities in Europe. We should be grateful!
Its wonderful isn't it..the wide variety of food is astonishing. English food used to be the laughing stock of the World...it can now be argued that we are the epicentre of good food.
The Music scene is thriving and in a constant state of flux as new influences intermix and create new forms..the cross pollination of cultural references is a blessing and makes for a vibrant society.
Leave these poor people to shiver in their gated communities, Chi! It must be tedious to talk and mix with people exactly like yoursefl and with the same opinions...one may as well talk to the bathroom mirror! :shrug:
<< Non white countires are funny. They don't let in a flood of foreigners to colonize their country. Look at Mexico for example. ” >>
Its a poor country..poor people don't emigrate to an even poorer country...they go to better themselves and find a richer country.
I'm rather surprised I have to point out the bloomin obvious!
Its a poor country..poor people don't emigrate to an even poorer country...they go to better themselves and find a richer country.
I'm rather surprised I have to point out the bloomin obvious!
You are referring to the true sense of multiculturlism. But this is not the mainstream sense of multiculturalism.
As usual most here deny the true meaning, and then when those who recognize have something to say about it. They are labeled or otherwise referred to negatively.
Not argeeing with biracial marriages or multicultural societies is not requirement for a racist or some other kind of "ic" or "ist".
One can harbor a sense of racial, cultural, or religious purity while still being appreciative of other races, cultures and religions. This is a truer sense of multiculturalism.
Failure to assimilate, creating laws designed to force segregation, creating more laws designed to police thought (hate crimes), are not ways to express multiculturalism.
Though I cannot speak for the original posters thoughts, or others who are in line with those thoughts; I do think that this is more of what they are trying to express, in addition to, the other issues they have written of.
Mountainhare, I am a Australian like you and I have a question...Who were the first peoples to arrive in Australia? Were they white?
Sorry to any native peoples who read this thread!! Even educated people are not very intelligent sometimes.
Racism is the lowest form of intelligence!! The white Australia policy ended in the sixties, come out of your time warp mountainha it is the year 2007!!!
Sorry to any native peoples who read this thread!! Even educated people are not very intelligent sometimes.
Racism is the lowest form of intelligence!! The white Australia policy ended in the sixties, come out of your time warp mountainha it is the year 2007!!!
Mexico has an illegal immigration problem from the countries south of it. They however treat their illegals way differently than we do.
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