Why Buddhism disappeared from India

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It is mostly FICTION.

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Disappearance of Buddhism From India: An Untold Story

Naresh Kumar

The complete disappearance of the religion of the Buddha from the land of its birth is one of the greatest puzzles of history. Once holding sway throughout the length and breadth of the subcontinent, Buddhism today survives only in the Himalayan fringes along the Tibetan frontier and in small pockets in northern and western India among recent Ambedkarite Dalit converts.

Various theories have been put forward which seek to explain the tragic eclipse of Buddhism from India. According to one view, corruption in the Buddhist sangha or priesthood precipitated Buddhism's ultimate decline. While it is true that with time the Buddhist priests became increasingly lax in the observance of religious rules, corruption alone cannot explain the death of Buddhism. After all, Buddhism was replaced by an even more corrupt Brahminism. Another theory is that Buddhism disappeared from India in the wake of the Arab and Turkish invasions in which many Buddhists were said to have been killed. However, this theory, too, seems not to be convincing as a complete explanation of the extinction of Buddhism in India . After all, in places such as Bengal and Sind, which were ruled by Brahminical dynasties but had Buddhist majorities, Buddhists are said to have welcomed the Muslims as saviours who had freed them from the tyranny of 'upper' caste rule. This explains why most of the 'lower-caste' people in Eastern Bengal and Sind
embraced Islam. Few, if any, among the 'upper' castes of these regions did the same.

Since Buddhism was replaced by triumphant Brahminism, the eclipse of Buddhism in India was obviously primarily a result of the Brahminical revival. The Buddha was a true revolutionary—and his crusade against Brahminical supremacy won him his most ardent followers from among the oppressed castes. The Buddha challenged the divinity of the Vedas, the bedrock of Brahminism. He held that all men are equal and that the caste system or varnashramadharma, to which the Vedas and Other Brah'minical' books had given religious sanction, was completely false. Thus, in the Anguttara Nikaya, the Buddha is said to have exhorted the Bhikkus, saying, “Just, O brethren, as the great rivers, when they have emptied themselves into the Great Ocean, lose their different names and are known as the Great Ocean Just so, O brethren, do the four varnas—Kshatriya, Brahmin, Vaishya and
Sudra—when they begin to follow the doctrine and discipline propounded by the Tathagata [i.e. the Buddha], renounce the different names of caste and
rank and become the members of one and the same society.â€

The Buddha’s fight against Brahminism won him many enemies from among the Brahmins. They were not as greatly opposed to his philosophical teachings as they were to his message of universal brotherhood and equality for it directly challenged their hegemony and the scriptures that they had invented to legitimize this. To combat Buddhism and revive the tottering Brahminical hegemony, Brahminical revivalists resorted to a three-pronged strategy. Firstly, they launched a campaign of hatred and persecution against the Buddhists. Then, they appropriated many of the finer aspects of Buddhism into their own system so as to win over the "lower" caste Buddhist masses, but made sure that this selective appropriation did not in any way undermine Brahminical hegemony. The final stage in this project to wipeout Buddhism was to propound and propagate the myth that the Buddha was merely another
‘incarnation’ (avatar) of the Hindu god Vishnu. Buddha was turned into just another of the countless deities of the Brahminical pantheon.

The Buddhists were finally absorbed into the caste system, mainly as Shudras and ‘Untouchables’, and with that the Buddhist presence was completely obliterated from the land of its birth. Dr. Bhimrao Ambedkar writes in his book, The Untouchables, that the ancestors of today's Dalits were Buddhists who were reduced to the lowly status of ‘untouchables’
for not having accepted the supremacy of the Brahmins. They were kept apart from other people and were forced to live in ghettos of their own. Being treated worse that beasts of burden and forbidden to receive any education, these people gradually lost touch with Buddhism, but yet never fully reconciled themselves to the Brahminical order. Many of them later converted to Islam, Sikhism and Christianity in a quest for liberation from the Brahminical religion.

To lend legitimacy to their campaign against Buddhism, Brahminical texts included fierce strictures against Buddhists. Manu, in his Manusmriti, laid down that, “If a person touches a Buddhist […] he shall purify himself by having a bath.†Aparaka ordained the same in his Smriti. Vradha Harit declared entry into a Buddhist temple a sin, which could only be expiated for by taking a ritual bath. Even dramas and other books for lay people written by Brahmins contained venomous propaganda against the Buddhists. In the classic work, Mricchakatika, (Act VII), the hero Charudatta, on seeing a Buddhist monk pass by, exclaims to his friend Maitriya— "Ah! Here is an
inauspicious sight, a Buddhist monk coming towards us." The Brahmin Chanakya, author of Arthashastra, declared that, "When a person entertains in a dinner dedicated to gods and ancestors those who are Sakyas (Buddhists), Ajivikas, Shudras and exiled persons, a fine of one hundred panas shall be imposed on him." Shankaracharaya, the leader of the Brahminical
revival, struck terror into the hearts of the Buddhists with his diatribes against their religion.

The simplicity of the Buddha’s message, its stress on equality and its crusade against the bloody and costly sacrifices and ritualism of Brahminism had attracted the oppressed casts in large numbers. The Brahminical revivalists understood the need to appropriate some of these finer aspects of Buddhism and discarded some of the worst of their own practices so as to be able to win over the masses back to the Brahminical fold. Hence began the process of the assimilation of Buddhism by Brahminism. The Brahimns,
who were once voracious beef-eaters, turned vegetarian, imitating the Buddhists in this regard. Popular devotion to the Buddha was sought to be
replaced by devotion to Hindu gods such as Rama and Krishna. The existing version of the Mahabharata was written in the period in which the decline of Buddhism had already begun, and it was specially meant for the Shudras, most of whom were Buddhists, to attract them away from Buddhism. Brahminism, however, still prevented the Shudras from having access to the Vedas, and the Mahabharata was possibly written to placate the Buddhist Shudras and to compensate them for this discrimination. The Mahabharata incorporated some of the humanistic elements of Buddhism to win over the
Shudras, but, overall, played its role of bolstering the Brahminical hegemony rather well. Thus, Krishna, in the Gita, is made to say that a person ought not to violate the “divinely ordained†law of caste. Eklavya is made to slice off his thumb by Drona, who is finds it a gross violation of dharma that a mere
tribal boy should excel the Kshatriya Arjun in archery.

The various writer of the puranas, too, carried on this systematic campaign of hatred, slander and calumny against the Buddhists. The Brahannardiya
Purana made it a principal sin for Brahmins to enter the house of a Buddhist even in times of great peril. The Vishnu Purana dubs the Buddha as Maha Moha or ‘the great seducer’. It further cautions against the “sin of conversing with Buddhists†and lays down that “those who merely talk to Buddhist ascetics shall be sent to hell.†In the Gaya Mahatmaya, the concluding section of the Vayu Purana, the town of Gaya is identified as Gaya Asura, a demon who had attained such holiness that all those who saw him or touched him went straight to heaven. Clearly, this ‘demon’ was none other the Buddha who preached a simple way for all, including the oppressed castes, to attain salvation. The Vayu Purana story goes on to add that Yama, the king of hell, grew jealous at this, possibly because less people were now entering his domains. He appealed to the gods to limit the powers of Asura Gaya. This the gods, led by Vishnu, were able to do by placing a massive stone on the “demon’s†head. This monstrous legend signified the ultimate capture of Budhdhism’s most holy centre by its most inveterate
foes.

Kushinagar, also known as Harramba, was one of the most important Buddhist centres as the Buddha breathed his last there. The Brahmins, envious of the
prosperity of this pilgrim town and in order to discourage people from going there, invented the absurd theory that one who dies in Harramba goes to
hell, or is reborn as an ass, while he who dies in Kashi, the citadel of Brahminism, goes straight to heaven. So pervasive was the belief in this bizarre theory that when the Sufi saint Kabir died in 1518 AD at Maghar, not far from Kushinagar, some of his Hindu followers refused to erect any memorial in his honour there and instead set up one at Kashi. Kabir's Muslim followers were less superstitious. They set up a tomb for him at Maghar itself.

In addition to vilifying the fair name of the Buddha, the Brahminical revivalists goaded Hindu kings to persecute and even slaughter innocent Buddhists.
Sasanka, the Shaivite Brahmin king of Bengal, murdered the last Buddhist emperor Rajyavardhana, elder brother of Harshavardhana, in 605 AD and then marched on to Bodh Gaya where he destroyed the Bodhi tree under which the Buddha had attained enlightenment. He forcibly removed the Buddha's image from the Bodh Vihara near the tree and installed one of Shiva in its place. Finally, Sasanka is said to have slaughtered all the Buddhist monks in the area around Kushinagar. Another such Hindu king was, Mihirakula, a Shaivite, who is said to have completely destroyed over 1500 Buddhist shrines. The Shaivite Toramana is said to have destroyed the Ghositarama Buddhist monastery at
Kausambi.

The extermination of Buddhism in India was hastened by the large-scale destruction and appropriation of Buddhist shrines by the Brahmins. The Mahabodhi Vihara at Bodh Gaya was forcibly converted into a Shaivite temple, and the controversy lingers on till this day. The cremation stupa of the Buddha at Kushinagar was changed into a Hindu temple dedicated to the obscure deity with the name of Ramhar Bhavani. Adi Shankara is said to have established his Sringeri Mutth on the site of a Buddhist monastery which he
took over. Many Hindu shrines in Ayodhya are said to have once been Buddhist temples, as is the case with other famous Brahminical temples such as those at Sabarimala, Tirupati, Badrinath and Puri.
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Reality is quite strange.

1. Buddha never waged any struggle against Hinduism. It is a fiction. He was not persecuted at all. No one attempted to kill him and he died at 81 after a meal of contaminated pork, as recorded by Buddhist chroniclers.

2. Split of Buddhism. A few decades after Buddha's Buddhist philosopy and theology split in two. The breakways called themselves Mahayanis, and gave a DEROGATORY name Hinayana to the others. Thus first insults and derogations came from within and not from without [Hinduism and Jainsm]. They refuted each other making the work of their critics easier.

3. Hindus take up the gaunlet. It was about 400 BCE that Hindu philosophers took up the challenge of Buddhism and started refuting its philosophies. By this time Buddhists, specially Hinayana, had turned hostile not only to Hinduism, but to Jainism too. Any wonder that Jain philosophers too picked up the gaunlet?

3. Social upheavals. The major social upheaval was very much an economic matter. Large number of young men and women had turned monks and became unproductive. In addition Buddhist sanghas increasingly became the refuge of social and economic failures. Most of these were brahmins, kshatryias and traders/merchants [all failed ones]. Every escapist made a beeline for sanghas.

4. Around 450 BCE some rulers of small kingdoms had become Buddhists. But their administration, military etc were staffed by Hindus JUST because willing Buddhists were hard to find. You can guess how long they could survive.

5. About 310 BCE, Mauryan empire came up, its military backbone HAD to be from Hindus, as only they were willing to take up arms. Kautaliya took a hard look at the economic scene and introduced many tax reforms and innovations. One was Presumptive Income Tax, payable by each and every person, be a mendicant or a Buddhist monk. It started paying economic dividends and reduced the legions of freeloaders.

6. Mind you, when Alexander invaded aroubd 327 BCE, he encountered Hindu kings who put up resistance.

7. During Asoka's rule, Buddhism got a fillip and economicx and military strength suffered a loter. Later Brihadrath, last Maurya emperor was assisinated and his general Pushyamitra occupied the throne. 300 years later, this single assasination was BLOWN up into a MASSIVE massacre. No evidence found so far.

8. After this Buddhists lost political power, a must for it to thrive. And there was increasing challenge from Hindu philosphical schools. Next centuries saw a steady decline of Buddhism in India. A relentless philosophical criticism by Hindus and Jains was telling upon Buddhism. About 500 CE, Mimamsakars delivered telling blows against Buddhist philosophy. It was finall mopped up by Shankara [8 century CE]. After that there were great Buddhist philosophers. Interestingly, it was after 800 CE that Hindu philosophers started taking positive view of Buddhism.
 
I was speaking with an Indian Buddhist the other day (actually helping her to move to a new place) and I asked her if she had to move in with an Indian which religion (other than Buddhism) would she prefer they were.

She quickly said Christian - because they are open minded and easy going. I then asked who next, Muslim or Hindu and she said "Id rather live alone, but if I had to choose it'd be Muslim over Hindu - I can't stand close-minded Hindu because of the Caste system.

Which I thought was interesting.
 
I was speaking with an Indian Buddhist the other day (actually helping her to move to a new place) and I asked her if she had to move in with an Indian which religion (other than Buddhism) would she prefer they were.

She quickly said Christian - because they are open minded and easy going. I then asked who next, Muslim or Hindu and she said "Id rather live alone, but if I had to choose it'd be Muslim over Hindu - I can't stand close-minded Hindu because of the Caste system.

Which I thought was interesting.

Yes. Buddists today are becoming increasingly anti Hindu, to the extent of aligning with muslims and xians. Mind you, in Buddhist lands like Thialand etc, Buddhists do not hate Hindus. They forget that in India, they can swim with Hindus, their natural allies, or sink.

It is not as if Buddhists don not have castes in India. They do. So have muslims and xians and sikhs. But they are too hypocrite to admit it officially. But that does not stop them from trying to hop onto the band wagons of "lower castes" for special reservations based on castes.

Interesting schizophrenia.

Muslim open mindedness. Would love see a Buddhist in some muslim country like Pakistan or Afghanistan or Turkey. Would love see Malaysia giving them rights equal to muslims. Would like Pope to apologise for his condemnation of Buddhism.
 
I was speaking with an Indian Buddhist the other day (actually helping her to move to a new place) and I asked her if she had to move in with an Indian which religion (other than Buddhism) would she prefer they were.

She quickly said Christian - because they are open minded and easy going. I then asked who next, Muslim or Hindu and she said "Id rather live alone, but if I had to choose it'd be Muslim over Hindu - I can't stand close-minded Hindu because of the Caste system.

Which I thought was interesting.

That sounds reasonable. Only Hinduism among all the religions is so close and encompassing to Buddhism, to be be able to gobble it up. To a typical Hindu, ideas of Buddhism are not very unique and can easily fit into one of the racks of Hinduism, which possibly makes some Buddhists insecure. Every other religion is very contrasting.
 
About 500 CE, Mimamsakars delivered telling blows against Buddhist philosophy. It was finall mopped up by Shankara [8 century CE]. After that there were great Buddhist philosophers. Interestingly, it was after 800 CE that Hindu philosophers started taking positive view of Buddhism.


elaborate with linkage
thanks
 
My take on the religions crap between all this - SCREW IT and get on with life :D . I've been tired of thinking about this nonsense, and after living in the country for 5 years, I don't give a damn; I'd just let the people rot. You loose caring after a while - well, I did.
 
About 500 CE, Mimamsakars delivered telling blows against Buddhist philosophy. It was finall mopped up by Shankara [8 century CE]. After that there were great Buddhist philosophers. Interestingly, it was after 800 CE that Hindu philosophers started taking positive view of Buddhism.

here is what would be nice
lets eyeball what the mimasa/buddhist/advaita schools use for their premises and see if all or some can be refuted

then we use their texts for shit paper
andale fuckers
 
The India girl I know, finishing her PhD, is really passionate regarding her anti-caste system beliefs. She is/was a low caste so I guess she intimately understands what it's like to be on the shit end of the bigot's stick.

While it may be true that living in a conservative Islamic country would be equally as bad, that doesn't take away from her point.

Also, she did mention about how Indians (Hindu or Buddhist I'm not sure) would patrol her housing blocks (which only have entrance via the main gates) because Muslims were burning down their houses while Hindu were burning down Muslims apartments. One time she was trapped her in apartment because of all the violence outside - which she said was pretty scary.

Another thing she says is funny is ex-pat Indian's who never lived in India sometimes give her shit because she's not acting like a "good" Indian girl... haha... they still think India is the way it was 80 years ago and carry on with traditions they don't even care about in India anymore :)

Interesting conversations....
 
The India girl I know, finishing her PhD, is really Another thing she says is funny is ex-pat Indian's who never lived in India sometimes give her shit because she's not acting like a "good" Indian girl... haha... they still think India is the way it was 80 years ago and carry on with traditions they don't even care about in India anymore :)

lol? I belong in the category, and the country is still a s### hole, and I don't give a damn.

Violence? LOL, thank goodness I live in an area with many other "foreign returns" and foreigners themselves. Never seen any of it, but there have been bombings etc... in the city.
 
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