White supremacy is really about white degeneracy

sideshowbob said:
And I note that you still haven't suggested one. What is your solution?
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I'm a relatively patient person, but you're starting to push the limits. I said that I don't have a solution.

Understand one thing bro, I sharpen my knife by debating leftists. I know the tactic you're using. I'm not falling for it, because I've seen it often.

Why don't you call me a xenophobic and racist and call it a day. That's the box you're trying to put me in.
 
Zack Smith said:
Why don't you call me a xenophobic and racist and call it a day. That's the box you're trying to put me in.
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You've put me in a box as a "leftist". If you're not xenophobic and/or racist, you haven't done a very good job of demonstrating it. Your knife needs a lot more sharpening.
 
sideshowbob said:
You've put me in a box as a "leftist". If you're not xenophobic and/or racist, you haven't done a very good job of demonstrating it. Your knife needs a lot more sharpening.
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Do you deny you're a leftist?

Copy and paste ONE thing that I said that was racist or xenophobic! And go !!
 
Zack Smith said:
I'm serious. You asked me a question and I answered. I asked you a question and you engaged in avoidance of said question. You then went on to berate me and I in turn, reciprocated.

We both know that you've not had your worldview challenged. I thoroughly enjoy debating left wingers. It's stupid to stay in ones own bubble, but to each his own.

If you don't like me, cool, but either debate or ignore me.
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Well, that's interesting.
 
Zack Smith said:
Do you deny you're a leftist?
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The question isn't whether or not I'm a leftist. The question is how you jumped to that conclusion. Since I've been advocating ( more or less) for immigrants and you seem to disagree with me, that suggests xenophobia to me.
 
sideshowbob said:
The question isn't whether or not I'm a leftist. The question is how you jumped to that conclusion. Since I've been advocating ( more or less) for immigrants and you seem to disagree with me, that suggests xenophobia to me.
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Dude, are you a leftist or not? This isn't rocket science. Man up and answer this simple , straightforward question.

I see that you couldn't find anything. I'm not surprised. I clearly said that I want immigrants to enter the country LEGALLY. What sovereign nation prefers otherwise?

Seriously, are you mentally stunted? I'm not being hyperbolic.
 
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Zack Smith said:
Dude, are you a leftist or not.
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The irony is that you object to being put into xenophobic "box" and at the same time you demand that I put myself in a box.

Iclearly said that I want immigrants to enter thecountry LEGALLY. Whatsovereign nation prefersotherwise?
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"Legality" is a copout. The real question is what laws you support?

What do you propose to do with the thousands of "illegals" who have been in the country for years, working and paying taxes? Do you support amnesty for them?
 
Zack Smith said:
LOL. Are you suggesting that calling me "ignorant" and telling me to "fuck off" is productive?

FFS, you're drowning in your own cognitive dissonance.
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Yeah, that's nice.

Do you have an agenda that you at least know about?
 
sideshowbob said:
The irony is that you object to being put into xenophobic "box" and at the same time you demand that I put myself in a box.

Chuckle. No irony whatsoever. Perhaps you should learn the definition of "xenophobe". Perhaps you should take a refresher course in reading comprehension. When you master those two, you'll realize that your false comparison is idiotic.

"Legality" is a copout. The real question is what laws you support?

What do you propose to do with the thousands of "illegals" who have been in the country for years, working and paying taxes? Do you support amnesty for them?
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sideshowbob said:
The irony is that you object to being put into xenophobic "box" and at the same time you demand that I put myself in a box.

Dude, stay in one lane. I'm pragmatic and realize that those who came here illegally and work and pay taxes, is a ship that's sailed. I'm not dying on that hill.

Moving forward I want any person wanting to enter this country, to do it the same way that millions of their peers did.

"Legality" is a copout. The real question is what laws you support?

What do you propose to do with the thousands of "illegals" who have been in the country for years, working and paying taxes? Do you support amnesty for them?
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Zack Smith said:
Welp, that's a lie. Does 9/11 ring a bell. The Pulse night club shooting? Ft. Hood? San Bernadino? Boston Marathon bombers? I'm sure I'm missing some.
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We were talking about the risks TODAY, specifically the rise in white supremacist violence during Trump's presidency. Trump's presidency began in 2017. 9/11 was 2001. The Pulse shooting was in 2016.

Recently we've had a surge in right wing extremist violence, generally associated with white nationalism, white supremacy or Naziism. To be specific:

White supremacist James Alex Fields murdered one protester and injured 19 others at a protest.
William Edward Atchison, a white supremacist and fervent Trump supporter, murdered two at a school before killing himself.
A 17 year old neo-Nazi killed his girlfriend's parents because they were trying to keep hate out of their house. The 17 year old was a neo-Nazi who wanted to see a "white revolution." They are still keeping his name confidential since he is a minor.
Neo-Nazi Robert Gregory Bowers killed 11 Jews at a synagogue. He had regularly posted anti-semitic messages on social media.
Jeremy Christian, a self-described white nationalist, murdered two people and injured a third in Portland after screaming racist and anti-Muslim insults at them. One of the victims was a US Army veteran and father of four.
Samuel Woodward, member of the neo-Nazi group Atomwaffen, murdered Blaze Bernstein - a gay Jewist student - and hid the body.
James Jackson, a white supremacist who believed in the "white genocide" theory (i.e. that the white race was being killed off by interbreeding) murdered Timothy Caughman so he wouldn't sleep with white women. He later lamented that he should have killed a younger black man.

I could go on but you get the idea.
BTW, we have enough violence in this country with our own citizenry, especially in urban areas. Why should we import more violence from those 7 terrorists states and from Mexico and Central America?
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Because US citizens are more violent than immigrants, whether they are legal or not. This fact often makes right winger's heads explode, but it's quite true.
 
Zack Smith said:
I'm pragmatic and realize that those who came here illegally and work and pay taxes, is a ship that's sailed.
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No, that ship has not sailed at all. Those people are still being rounded up and sent back. Are you in favour of stopping that expensive practice and just letting them stay?
 
billvon said:
We were talking about the risks TODAY, specifically the rise in white supremacist violence during Trump's presidency. Trump's presidency began in 2017. 9/11 was 2001. The Pulse shooting was in 2016.

Recently we've had a surge in right wing extremist violence, generally associated with white nationalism, white supremacy or Naziism. To be specific:

White supremacist James Alex Fields murdered one protester and injured 19 others at a protest.
William Edward Atchison, a white supremacist and fervent Trump supporter, murdered two at a school before killing himself.
A 17 year old neo-Nazi killed his girlfriend's parents because they were trying to keep hate out of their house. The 17 year old was a neo-Nazi who wanted to see a "white revolution." They are still keeping his name confidential since he is a minor.
Neo-Nazi Robert Gregory Bowers killed 11 Jews at a synagogue. He had regularly posted anti-semitic messages on social media.
Jeremy Christian, a self-described white nationalist, murdered two people and injured a third in Portland after screaming racist and anti-Muslim insults at them. One of the victims was a US Army veteran and father of four.
Samuel Woodward, member of the neo-Nazi group Atomwaffen, murdered Blaze Bernstein - a gay Jewist student - and hid the body.
James Jackson, a white supremacist who believed in the "white genocide" theory (i.e. that the white race was being killed off by interbreeding) murdered Timothy Caughman so he wouldn't sleep with white women. He later lamented that he should have killed a younger black man.

I could go on but you get the idea.

Because US citizens are more violent than immigrants, whether they are legal or not. This fact often makes right winger's heads explode, but it's quite true.
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Actually you can't go on. A total of 17 deaths came at the hands of white supremacists in 2017. Quite the epidemic !

https://www.newsweek.com/white-supremacists-killed-2017-extremist-783638

It is true that Americans are violent. Most are Dems and live in urban areas.
 
sideshowbob said:
No, that ship has not sailed at all. Those people are still being rounded up and sent back. Are you in favour of stopping that expensive practice and just letting them stay?
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All 20 million of them? LOL.

Quit taking the exception and making it the rule.
 
Zack Smith said:
All 20 million of them?
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The number isn't relevant. What's relevant is that their labour is needed and they're contributing to the economy. Do you support letting them stay instead of spending a stupid amount of money to hunt them down and ship them out? That would seem to be the "pragmatic" approach. If you insist on kicking productive people out because of a legal technicality, there would seem to be some other motive involved.
 
sideshowbob said:
The number isn't relevant. What's relevant is that their labour is needed and they're contributing to the economy. Do you support letting them stay instead of spending a stupid amount of money to hunt them down and ship them out? That would seem to be the "pragmatic" approach. If you insist on kicking productive people out because of a legal technicality, there would seem to be some other motive involved.
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The number isn't relevant? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That's because the numbers are so low for those that they're "rounding up" and they won't put a dent into the field workers that already exist.

You LW nutters are so intellectually dishonest in how you present your arguments.
 
Zack Smith said:
That's because the numbers are so low for those that they're "rounding up" and they won't put a dent into the field workers that already exist.
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The question is why would you want to put a dent in the number of productive workers? Why not just leave them alone?
 
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