What has Happened to Civil Liberties

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2001-07-14: John Fleming: The shocking menace of satellite surveillance
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Unknown to most of the world, satellites can perform astonishing and often menacing feats,
caused panic in the U.S. A spy satellite can monitor a person’’s every movement, even when the
““target”” is indoors or deep in the interior of a building or traveling rapidly down the highway in
a car, in any kind of weather (cloudy, rainy, stormy). There is no place to hide on the face of the
earth. It takes just three satellites to blanket the world with detection capacity. Besides tracking a
person’’s every action and relaying the data to a computer screen on earth, amazing powers of
satellites include reading a person’’s mind, monitoring conversations, manipulating electronic
instruments and physically assaulting someone with a laser beam
The power of those using this technology resides in the fact that most who become victims of this
assault do not realize it, if they do, they are not likely to be believed and would be unable to stop
the aggression. The US Attorney claims that the use of harmful radiation for surveillance of
residences is legal. Sending a copy of this document to your State and federal legislators asking
for an explanation to this case can help to stop this torture, can prevent that the same occurs to
you or to your loved ones, and can spare lives and immense pain and suffering.
 
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I am concerned about civil liberties, but I don't think anyone can read my mind. From space.

I know they can see you, the Russians had a manned space observatory decades ago. Now all you need is google Earth.
 
This genie is out of the bottle. Anonymity will be impossible in the near future and privacy is not far behind. They'll know where you are from the nanoscopic DNA sensors placed everywhere, probably floating in the air. They'll be able to hear what you're saying through the walls. They'll probably be able to see you through the walls.

The development of this technology cannot be prevented, it's inevitable.

Life will be different.
 
its not a given
the presence of tech does not automatically necessitate its usage.
stand up for your rights
this erosion is far from inevitable

make us mad enough and we will shoot that shit down

/heads up nigs
 
Gustav said:
its not a given. the presence of tech does not automatically necessitate its usage. stand up for your rights this erosion is far from inevitable. . . .
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It will be not just microscopic but nanoscopic. It will be in the wallpaper, in the pavement, floating invisibly in the air.

You will welcome this technology with a cheer because it will be marketed so cleverly that you'll accept the cost-benefit ratio. There will be nanobots in your bloodstream, killing viruses and bacteria that your white blood cells can't overpower, breaking down poisons, processing the alcohol out of your system with a single subvocal command when it's time to drive home, letting you eat everything you want and flushing the extra calories out of your system, destroying plaque buildup so you never have a heart attack, repairing injuries including self-inflicted ones like tobacco damage, rehabilitating the "normal" breakdown of tissues from aging, destroying cancer one cell at a time without anyone having to bother figuring out what causes it.
. . . . make us mad enough and we will shoot that shit down/heads up pigs
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Not every society is as well-armed as Americans. The Brits love their nanny-state. The ultimate indignity has taken place there without even any fanfare. It took an American visitor to George Orwell's last home to count something like 150 "security" cameras trained on its various external facets. And that number only includes the ones close enough to produce an identifable photo of every person who enters and leaves and any object they are carrying. There are hundreds more at greater distances that can track the incoming and outgoing traffic.

In the USA they are already routinely fingerprinting newborn babies. I don't know of a single jurisdiction in which a private citizen needs a permit to install a videocamera pointing in absolutely any direction. Police routinely ask to see the footage from private security cameras, without even a warrant or a subpoena, and most people--YOUR NEIGHBORS--don't object.

Smile. You are and forevermore will be on Candid Camera.
 
Fraggle, nice image!?...Not.. here.. Google Earth is the closest thing to big brother and it is so inneffectual it makes global warming look like a warm year in a bad drought.

Ohh! shit another cloudy day, can't we come back tomorrow?

No, One Raven is doing a pass!!!, Piss AwF!
 
Lets see, nearly 7 billion people on Earth, moving around day and night, going into and out of buildings. Now please enlighten me as to how a few satellites can watch "everyone" and keep them in view everywhere they go? Paranoia is something that seems to be prevalent with you.
 
cosmictraveler said:
Lets see, nearly 7 billion people on Earth, moving around day and night, going into and out of buildings. Now please enlighten me as to how a few satellites can watch "everyone" and keep them in view everywhere they go? Paranoia is something that seems to be prevalent with you.
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What makes you think they'll use satellites? It's already difficult to walk or drive around a big city in a Western country and ever be out of range of a security camera, traffic camera, etc. Or five of them. The UK is the worst but America isn't far behind. All they need is real-time communication and archive storage and that's just a matter of a few more generations of more compact storage units and price drops.

They'll continue to get smaller until they're nanotech. Then they'll float around like dust motes.
 
i am kinda drunk and shit but lemme try an analogy

cops got guns and shit and can waltz in anytime they want
thats ability, potential, whatnot

we counter with amendments and rights and shit
fuckers chafe

transpose and i ask again... why is it a given?
eyeball bush's eavesdropping. did it revert back to form? in paper at least?

cos that is all that matters
lipservice is like the little engine that could
guilt=reform
 
Corporations will have them. Individuals will have them. Everybody will by spying on everybody. It won't necessarily be just the government. There are already more private surveillance cameras than the government has.
 
Civil liberties are already so eroded; I don't think that satellites or nanotech are needed. In Australia this has happened by creep - stack the Bench (judiciary), merge Church and State, change curriculum...before you know it everyone has unwittingly taken a big step to the right.
 
It's a little known fact, but the U. S. Government now has nine federal employees at work for every resident. Yes - that's right, every taxpayer, voter, welfare recipient, drunk living under a bridge, illegal alien or tourist has a minimum of three government employees on every shift to simply monitor those spy satellites, cameras, FLIR cameras, geophone vibration detectors and so forth. Yes, they can read minds. Not only that, but they monitor all your toilet flushing and examine your body wastes as well as your garbage can contents. And they listen to every phone call you make or receive and keep track of the TV shows you watch.

All on a daily basis!

For those of you who aren't laughing yourselves silly, loosen your tinfoil hats.
 
Archie said:
It's a little known fact, but the U. S. Government now has nine federal employees at work for every resident. Yes - that's right, every taxpayer, voter, welfare recipient, drunk living under a bridge, illegal alien or tourist has a minimum of three government employees on every shift to simply monitor those spy satellites, cameras, FLIR cameras, geophone vibration detectors and so forth. Yes, they can read minds. Not only that, but they monitor all your toilet flushing and examine your body wastes as well as your garbage can contents. And they listen to every phone call you make or receive and keep track of the TV shows you watch. All on a daily basis! For those of you who aren't laughing yourselves silly, loosen your tinfoil hats.
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I can't imagine where you found this, but it's pure bullshit. The total number of civilian (civil service) federal employees is about three million. If you add in the contractors you might hit ten million. And they're not all sitting around eavesdropping on us. The population of the country is three hundred million. Do the math.
 
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Fraggle Rocker said:
I can't imagine where you found this, but it's pure bullshit. The total number of civilian (civil service) federal employees is about three million. If you add in the contractors you might hit ten million. And they're not all sitting around eavesdropping on us. The population of the country is three hundred million. Do the math.
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Dude, he was playing the irony/paranoia card.
 
lerichards said:
2001-07-14: John Fleming: The shocking menace of satellite surveillance
From Xiando
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Unknown to most of the world, satellites can perform astonishing and often menacing feats,
caused panic in the U.S. A spy satellite can monitor a person’’s every movement, even when the
““target”” is indoors or deep in the interior of a building or traveling rapidly down the highway in
a car, in any kind of weather (cloudy, rainy, stormy). There is no place to hide on the face of the
earth. .
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Sure, that's why it took so long to find Saddam Hussein, and why Osama bin Laden is still at large.
 
Its not paranoia to say you dont like to be watched.

Its not paranoia to say your tired of the government raping you every paycheck so they can afford to watch your every move....if they wanted.

Its not paranoia to say the government has surveylance capable of keeping an eye on any which person they wanted.
 
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