The skeletons in Poltergeist were real, unlike the rest of the movie.
What are poltergeists?
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Stone
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Okay, wrong movie. Anyway, you agree tales of poltergeist are just another kind of fairy story for children, while magic dragon thinks there is a serious scientific basis for such things and that we can learn from them. Why is he not banned? What are poltergeists? Pure fantasy. Get a job, get a haircut!
He's been banned many times, Stone. And fuck no, I'm not cutting my hair!
Stone
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Then I guess they let him stay for novelty value. A constant thorn in the side of ridiculousness that makes people want to view this forum and refute his drivel. How sad.
Don't cut your hair then. Just a figure of speech. I thought a science site would be sensible. I was so wrong.
Don't cut your hair then. Just a figure of speech. I thought a science site would be sensible. I was so wrong.
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Think it's more to do with MR letting his infraction points expire before he goes on his next paranormal rant, than it's about keeping him for novelty value.
And I know it's just a figure of speech
And I know it's just a figure of speech
I believe that Magical Realist is a poltergeist.
Isn't that putting the cart before the horse? "Unexplained activities" should be the term, as your theory of poltergeists (literally "disturbing ghost" in German) is so far unproven.
poltergeist - A spirit or ghost that is supposed to make its presence known by tappings, the slamming of doors, or other sounds or happenings that cannot be explained.
An odd distinction. Perhaps spectre, phantom, etc were subdivisions of the putative ghost category which referred to "non-noisy" spirits that merely announced themselves visually.
Will thaumaturgical loner-entities like Jack Pumpkinhead, Sawhorse, Gump, etc (the miscellaneous progeny of the Powder of Life) ever be given their own specialized classification? Only that mysterious anomaly Frank[en]Baum, which created the physics-violating Land of Oz, knows for sure.
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One of the hallmarks of some poltergeist cases is stones being flung from nowhere. Incidents of rains of stones have been recorded thruout history. Here is such a case going on in Birmingham:
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Documented accounts of stone rains:
"One of the best chronicled rain of stones took place in the little town of Harrisonville, Ohio, in October of 1901. A local newspaper wrote of the event: it began on October 13th, when a small boulder came crashing through the window of a house near the town. The family went outside to see who had thrown the rock, but nobody was found in the vicinity. While the family was outside, other stones began to crash into the house, apparently without a source. Several days later, the area afflicted by the phenomenon grew as stones fell from the sky throughout the town. Villagers panicked and armed themselves, but the stones continued to come out of the sky from no apparent source. The phenomenon continued for several days, and the townspeople even went to the extreme of rounding up all of the men and boys of Harrisonville to make sure none of them were throwing the boulders. The stones continued to fall. Eventually, however, the rain of stones stopped as mysteriously as it had begun.
Several years later a similar incident happened in Indonesia. A witness stated that soon after midnight he was awoken by a stone falling near his bed. When he lit his bedside lamp he saw boulders falling through the roof from no apparent source. The man and his servant searched the house and the area around the house but found no source for the rocks, which continued to fall from the sky. The man reported: “I…tried to catch the stones while they were falling through the air towards me, but I could never catch them; it seemed to me that they changed direction in the air as soon as I tried to get hold of them.” He climbed up to investigate the ceiling and found that the stones came through the roof without causing a hole in the ceiling.
Also in Indonesia, in 1928, a similar incident took a strange turn. A Fortean researcher was present and stated: “Our host invited us to pick up some of the stones and mark them with chalk, lipstick, paint…and then toss them as far as we could into the surrounding garden….We threw the small stones, duly marked, far out (into the garden and) within a minute they were all back (inside)! Nobody, without a powerful flashlight or super-eyesight could have found those little stones in that tangled mess (of the garden) in that length of time, and thrown them back on the veranda.”
Despite the sheer number of rocks falling from the sky, it is rare that one of the stones came into contact with people. Buildings and objects may be destroyed, but injuries to persons are not often chronicled.
A 1982 incident in Kenya lasted for several months and the homeowner took desperate measures: “I can tell you honestly that we are being driven mad by what is happening. Hundreds of people have come to the house promising help but nobody has been able to do anything. We have prayers said and we have had witch-doctors performing strange ceremonies. Nothing has helped.”
Investigators are stumped. There has never been a conclusive solution to the problems. On analysis, the stones turn out to be ordinary rocks easily found in the area of incident. Some have postulated that the stones may be swept up in tornado-like conditions, but often the rocks fall out of a clear sky.
Further research is needed to come to conclusions about the puzzling phenomenon, and if the past is any indication, there will be plenty of similar future incidents to study."===http://www.historicmysteries.com/rain-stones/
"One of the best chronicled rain of stones took place in the little town of Harrisonville, Ohio, in October of 1901. A local newspaper wrote of the event: it began on October 13th, when a small boulder came crashing through the window of a house near the town. The family went outside to see who had thrown the rock, but nobody was found in the vicinity. While the family was outside, other stones began to crash into the house, apparently without a source. Several days later, the area afflicted by the phenomenon grew as stones fell from the sky throughout the town. Villagers panicked and armed themselves, but the stones continued to come out of the sky from no apparent source. The phenomenon continued for several days, and the townspeople even went to the extreme of rounding up all of the men and boys of Harrisonville to make sure none of them were throwing the boulders. The stones continued to fall. Eventually, however, the rain of stones stopped as mysteriously as it had begun.
Several years later a similar incident happened in Indonesia. A witness stated that soon after midnight he was awoken by a stone falling near his bed. When he lit his bedside lamp he saw boulders falling through the roof from no apparent source. The man and his servant searched the house and the area around the house but found no source for the rocks, which continued to fall from the sky. The man reported: “I…tried to catch the stones while they were falling through the air towards me, but I could never catch them; it seemed to me that they changed direction in the air as soon as I tried to get hold of them.” He climbed up to investigate the ceiling and found that the stones came through the roof without causing a hole in the ceiling.
Also in Indonesia, in 1928, a similar incident took a strange turn. A Fortean researcher was present and stated: “Our host invited us to pick up some of the stones and mark them with chalk, lipstick, paint…and then toss them as far as we could into the surrounding garden….We threw the small stones, duly marked, far out (into the garden and) within a minute they were all back (inside)! Nobody, without a powerful flashlight or super-eyesight could have found those little stones in that tangled mess (of the garden) in that length of time, and thrown them back on the veranda.”
Despite the sheer number of rocks falling from the sky, it is rare that one of the stones came into contact with people. Buildings and objects may be destroyed, but injuries to persons are not often chronicled.
A 1982 incident in Kenya lasted for several months and the homeowner took desperate measures: “I can tell you honestly that we are being driven mad by what is happening. Hundreds of people have come to the house promising help but nobody has been able to do anything. We have prayers said and we have had witch-doctors performing strange ceremonies. Nothing has helped.”
Investigators are stumped. There has never been a conclusive solution to the problems. On analysis, the stones turn out to be ordinary rocks easily found in the area of incident. Some have postulated that the stones may be swept up in tornado-like conditions, but often the rocks fall out of a clear sky.
Further research is needed to come to conclusions about the puzzling phenomenon, and if the past is any indication, there will be plenty of similar future incidents to study."===http://www.historicmysteries.com/rain-stones/
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Scientific evidence and analysis of poltergeist knockings:
http://www.spr.ac.uk/news/colvin-acoustic-properties-poltergeist-rapping
"Dr Colvin has analysed recordings of alleged poltergeist knocking obtained from around the world over a 40-year period. The earliest was a recording made by a local physician at Sauchie (Scotland) in 1960 and the most recent was obtained from a poltergeist case at Euston Square, London in 2000.
Whilst the two types of rap sound rather similar, they are actually acoustically different, although the effect is only made apparent when the recordings of raps are submitted to detailed analysis."
http://www.spr.ac.uk/news/colvin-acoustic-properties-poltergeist-rapping
"Dr Colvin has analysed recordings of alleged poltergeist knocking obtained from around the world over a 40-year period. The earliest was a recording made by a local physician at Sauchie (Scotland) in 1960 and the most recent was obtained from a poltergeist case at Euston Square, London in 2000.
Whilst the two types of rap sound rather similar, they are actually acoustically different, although the effect is only made apparent when the recordings of raps are submitted to detailed analysis."
Found it interesting when I was 13, then I grew up.
There's simply NO reliable evidence.
There's simply NO reliable evidence.
Magical Realist
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The full story behind the famous Enfield Poltergeist case. Documented by police, family members, neighbors, reporters, and parapsychologists, the events surrounding this case still remain unexplained and quite remarkable.
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Poltergeist case in Yorkshire. Fascinating eyewitness account of the phenomena in a local bed shop.
http://www.assap.ac.uk/newsite/articles/Yorkshire poltergeist.html
http://www.assap.ac.uk/newsite/articles/Yorkshire poltergeist.html
Perhaps one comes from the east coast and the other comes from the west?
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well, i don't agree, many people see ghosts, but not many see lephrechauns.
i believe poltergeists are demonic entities,
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