Were We Told the Truth about World War 2?

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So...I have been reading this thread since the Op. Somehow or another it has morphed into a is to/is not - why/why not on purported conspiracy theories.

Conspiracy theories are real similar to that final spherical muscle at the end of our colon ; seems most everybody has at least one - but would prefer to talk of or point out everybody else's.

At any rate, the point of my Post is to ask if any Conspiracy Theories ever turned out to be true - as in they were not just theories after all?

Of course I think of the Earth being flat and the Sun revolving around the Earth (center of the universe) - but they may not qualify because evidently there are a few stalwarts that still do not believe the current Zeitgeist

I would like to hear of anyone who can point out some previous conspiracy theories that were eventually proven not to just be theories at all.
One that comes to my mind was that stupid conspiracy theory that some big-wig was receiving fellatio in an oval office.

Anyway, does anyone have any?

p.s. - I have been accused of being a conspiracy theorist because, to this very day, I claim to be able to boil water in a paper cup by setting it directly on a burning campfire made of wood.
 
dumbest man on earth said:
I would like to hear of anyone who can point out some previous conspiracy theories that were eventually proven not to just be theories at all.
One that comes to my mind was that stupid conspiracy theory that some big-wig was receiving fellatio in an oval office.

Anyway, does anyone have any?

p.s. - I have been accused of being a conspiracy theorist because, to this very day, I claim to be able to boil water in a paper cup by setting it directly on a burning campfire made of wood.
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How do you define conspiracy theory? If Clinton's bj was one then I got a million.
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River Ape said:
I think most people grasp the idea that if YOU make a statement, YOU try to justify/verify it.
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My point is that the claims in the OP are easily verifiable but revisionists neglect to verify them. I am not making any claims; I'm just saying that the OP and you should do your own research before denying claims. If you could say you can't find any evidence that Eichmann made such a statement, I might feel inclined to lead you by the hand.
 
sideshowbob said:
My point is that the claims in the OP are easily verifiable but revisionists neglect to verify them. I am not making any claims; I'm just saying that the OP and you should do your own research before denying claims. If you could say you can't find any evidence that Eichmann made such a statement, I might feel inclined to lead you by the hand.
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I find your reply absurd, condescending and objectionable.
 
How can people, promote so many absurdities?
It's one thing to be sceptic, but I believe some of the folk promoting these absurd conspiracies, border on the brink of mental illness.
Once you buy into the first conspiracy theory, the next one seems that much more plausible I suppose.

TV shows such as X Files and Millenium, certainly have a lot to answer for.
 
I always found it weird, perhaps it is just me, but as a jew (by decent) I somehow have the right to say this via some strange racist logic and not be called an anti-semite: Jews were not the only ones killed in the holocaust! again not to take away from the suffering of jews that survived the holocaust, but the total killed in the death camps is estimated between 10-13 million, of which jews were ~6 million, the rest: Sloviks, Poles, Gypsis-Romani, Homosexuals, Free Masons, Jehovah witness are largely forgotten in the western world despite the fact they added up to 45-55% of the total killed.
 
So, about this WW2, were we actually told everything about it!! I love the way the OP took this thread massively off topic into yet another done to death BS 911 ebil-gubment-fest.
 
ElectricFetus said:
Jews were not the only ones killed in the holocaust!
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a lot of them were russians and poles.
quite a few more were political prisoners, some being german.
they ALL took a beating from hitler.

what's horrible is how they were treated.
standing butt naked in 10 or 20 degree weather for hours or until you died.
all a person can do is shake their head and ask "why".
 
Here's some more stuff.

"Holocaust Liars. Were the Germans Stupid?" (YouTube)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WECI8fPXhvo

"Robert Faurisson: The Problem Of Gas Chambers - (Le Probleme Des Chambres a Gaz)." (YouTube)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krZH0xQQuFo

A Holocaust Debate: Mark Weber vs Michael Shermer (YouTube)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PGhHMTbhTY

The Dachau Gas Chamber (YouTube)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4nY6T46aGA#t=1474

"Holohoax Completely Exposed by David Cole"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeG89gyV_LU

http://www.nazigassings.com/index.html
 
I wonder if I could be labelled close minded and brain washed by not reading any of the links by the mad one FatFreddy.
 
paddoboy said:
I wonder if I could be labelled close minded and brain washed by not reading any of the links by the mad one FatFreddy.
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It wouldn't matter in this case since if you do watch them and it doesn't change your mind the OP will still think you're being close minded.
 
paddoboy said:
I wonder if I could be labelled close minded and brain washed by not reading any of the links by the mad one FatFreddy.
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You "could be labelled(sic) close minded and brain washed by..." anyone, regardless of whether or not you read "any of the links by the mad one FatFreddy".

Being "labeled" is nothing to fret about.
Simply "labeling" someone/anyone as "close minded and brain washed" does not in reality, make them "close minded and brain washed" in any way.

However, paddoboy, if YOU actually "wonder if (you) could be labelled(sic) close minded and brain washed"...well...if you spend much time at all actually wondering about yourself being "close minded and brain washed"...either you know one way or the other...but wondering...well...I'll use your own words...:
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I'll let you decide.
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dumbest man on earth said:
You "could be labelled(sic) close minded and brain washed by..." anyone, regardless of whether or not you read "any of the links by the mad one FatFreddy".

Being "labeled" is nothing to fret about.
Simply "labeling" someone/anyone as "close minded and brain washed" does not in reality, make them "close minded and brain washed" in any way.

However, paddoboy, if YOU actually "wonder if (you) could be labelled(sic) close minded and brain washed"...well...if you spend much time at all actually wondering about yourself being "close minded and brain washed"...either you know one way or the other...but wondering...well...I'll use your own words...:
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More wishy washy meaningless gobbeldydook by the forum troll as aptly recognised by others.
 
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What do you people think of this?


http://www.polskawalczaca.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=18054
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No Evidence Of Genocide

One of the most important aspects of the Red Cross Report is that it clarifies the true cause of those deaths that undoubtedly occurred in the camps toward the end of the war. Says the Report: "In the chaotic condition of Germany after the invasion during the final months of the war, the camps received no food supplies at all and starvation claimed an increasing number of victims. Itself alarmed by this situation, the German Government at last informed the ICRC on February 1st, 1945 ... In March 1945, discussions between the President of the ICRC and General of the S.S. Kaltenbrunner gave even more decisive results. Relief could henceforth be distributed by the ICRC, and one delegate was authorised to stay in each camp ..." (Vol. III, p. 83).

Clearly, the German authorities were at pains to relieve the dire situation as far as they were able. The Red Cross are quite explicit in stating that food supplies ceased at this time due to the Allied bombing of German transportation, and in the interests of interned Jews they had protested on March 15th, 1944 against "the barbarous aerial warfare of the Allies" (Inter Arma Caritas, p. 78). By October 2nd, 1944, the ICRC warned the German Foreign Office of the impending collapse of the German transportation system, declaring that starvation conditions for people throughout Germany were becoming inevitable.

In dealing with this comprehensive, three-volume Report, it is important to stress that the delegates of the International Red Cross found no evidence whatever at the camps in Axis occupied Europe of a deliberate policy to exterminate the Jews. In all its 1,600 pages the Report does not even mention such a thing as a gas chamber. It admits that Jews, like many other wartime nationalities, suffered rigours and privations, but its complete silence on the subject of planned extermination is ample refutation of the Six Million legend. Like the Vatican representatives with whom they worked, the Red Cross found itself unable to indulge in the irresponsible charges of genocide which had become the order of the day. So far as the genuine mortality rate is concerned, the Report points out that most of the Jewish doctors from the camps were being used to combat typhus on the eastern front, so that they were unavailable when the typhus epidemics of 1945 broke out in the camps (Vol. I, p. 204 ff) - Incidentally, it is frequently claimed that mass executions were carried out in gas chambers cunningly disguised as shower facilities. Again the Report makes nonsense of this allegation. "Not only the washing places, but installations for baths, showers and laundry were inspected by the delegates. They had often to take action to have fixtures made less primitive, and to get them repaired or enlarged" (Vol. III, p. 594).
 
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