We never went to the moon.

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FatFreddy said:
The proof that the Chinese spacewalk was faked is too clear to obfuscate.
http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=362999&page=2&p=1064028979#post1064028979

There is a point at which things are so clear that sophistry becomes ineffective. No objective truth-seeker would maintain that the Chinese spacewalk was real.
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Hahahaha, listen to this guy! I predict what he is going to post and boom, along he comes and types it. Only the most profound eejits think that flags can be twisted like that in water. It is so stupid it boggles the mind. Yet, somehow, you claim it happened in a swimming pool, because you simply don't understand science. How very sad to post on a science forum with such gibberish.

List this proof without mentioning the "buoyant" cables which almost certainly are being affected by shape memory and heat in a vacuum! What are the other points you
keep spamming on about. That page totally destroyed your case, but being the troll you are, you are unable to take it in.
 
FatFreddy said:
I already linked to it on the last page. Here's the link.

(post #12)
http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=362999&page=2&p=1064028979#post1064028979
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I said waiting for the proof. You just linked to a debunked video and some observational crap about cables. You aren't qualified to assess what cables do in a vacuum.

Five quick questions:

1. How can a flag swing around in water without severe restriction? Even really slowly there is enormous drag!
2. If you setup a current in a pool from these bogus wave blowers, that force doesn't suddenly disappear, it just keeps swirling stuff all over the place. How come your bullcrap wave blowers don't make the astronauts move about?
3. Will you individually identify which pieces of this you regard as proof? We'll take it as read that the cables are on that list, but what else doesn't that blog link answer?
4. The man who made your video says 911 wasn't an inside job and says Apollo wasn't hoaxed. Your bullcrap claim says he was got at! That is ridiculous as he has never even mentioned any of those subject. Yet people like Aulis, Jarrah White, YOU! aren't made an offer you can't refuse. Explain this.
5. Final question is why won't you give a full scientific explanation concerning your "wall of air"? You just offer an opinion based on nothing more than your extremely inept and biased viewpoint.
 
David C said:
5. Final question is why won't you give a full scientific explanation concerning your "wall of air"? You just offer an opinion based on nothing more than your extremely inept and biased viewpoint.
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Simple - he can't. FatFreddy doesn't have so much as a cursory understanding of scientific processes, much less any knowledge of how to quantify evidence. He is a classic conspiracy-theory archetype; lots of bluster and talking points, no actual evidence.
 
1. How can a flag swing around in water without severe restriction? Even really slowly there is enormous drag!
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You know I explained that in this post.
http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=362999&page=2&p=1064028979#post1064028979

Here's what I said.
The fast flag movement can be explained by sped-up video.
(1:55 time mark)
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3. Will you individually identify which pieces of this you regard as proof?
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(from the aove link.
At the thirty second mark in this clip the astronaut moves the flag from right to left.

The flag flutters the way it would in a medium such as water.
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That fluttering could only be caused by the flag's being in a liquid or gaseous medium.

Case closed.
 
krash661 said:
is the ISS fake also ?
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I doubt it. As far as I know zero-gravity can only be faked for about thirty seconds on a diving plane. There is a lot of footage of obvious zero-gravity that lasts longer than thirty seconds.

International Space Station Tour 2012 (HD) ISS Tour
 
="billvon, post: 3334771, member: 130235"]It shows a flag that moves when an astronaut hits it. Basic physics.
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No it doesn't. It shows that the flag started moving before he got close enough to touch it. Start watching at the 1:00 time mark.

Initial Apollo 15 Flag Movement
 
FatFreddy said:
No it doesn't. It shows that the flag started moving before he got close enough to touch it. Start watching at the 1:00 time mark.
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You avoided my questions. See number 5!

There isn't any way air does this, a small child can do a simple experiment to prove it.

Here: Wet the palm of your right hand with a little water. Now bring your left hand quickly towards the wet hand in a clapping motion. You won't feel the cold of the air until the two hands are almost together. And YOU think it moves from over a metre away? A lying truther - isn't that an oxymoron. Well maybe not oxy.

Now answer my questions you coward.
 
FatFreddy:

Do you believe we will ever be able to send human beings safely to the moon? Do you think we could do it now if we wanted to?
 
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5. Final question is why won't you give a full scientific explanation concerning your "wall of air"? You just offer an opinion based on nothing more than your extremely inept and biased viewpoint.
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Anyone can hang a light piece of cloth from a ceiling light and trot by it at about a forty five degree angle and duplicate the movement of the Apollo flag. That's all that's needed.

First the flag will move away from you as it did in this video.

Then it will move back toward you to fill the gap caused by your passing as shown in this video.


This is just basic.

More info on the flag here.
http://www.politicalforum.com/moon-landing/362999-air-caused-flag-move-so-obviously-studio.html
 
FatFreddy said:
Anyone can hang a light piece of cloth from a ceiling light and trot by it at about a forty five degree angle and duplicate the movement of the Apollo flag. That's all that's needed.
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Cowardly response.

5. Final question is why won't you give a full scientific explanation concerning your "wall of air"? You just offer an opinion based on nothing more than your extremely inept and biased viewpoint

Then you respam your same videos again. Now answer that question and the other 4. I just "trotted past a cloth" and it didn't do what you claimed. So upload a video of you dong it, put it to bed once and for all. You won't answer the questions and you certainly won't upload a video because you know you are busted.
 
Utter rubbish. Your "alternative info" doesn't offer anything, it is inept observational nonsense. There is nothing factual or provable in it at all. No wonder you believe it.
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I'm not in a position to be able to know for sure. I never said I just believed it.
http://www.sciforums.com/threads/is...-levels-and-nature-of-space-radiation.152731/

It's all second-hand info. The only way I can be sure of what the true nature and levels of space radiation are is to send up my own probe and measure it myself. I can't do that so all I have is contradictory second-hand info.

The anomalies in the footage and still pictures have already proven the hoax. My position is that space radiation is probably why they had to fake the missions. The radiation issue isn't about whether they faked the missions; it's about why they faked the missions.

Simply believing the official version would be naive as the mainsteam has no credibility. Check out the info on the media, science journals, and the teaching of history here.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487&page=37&p=4731597&viewfull=1#post4731597


You people seem to simply believe the official story. A thinking person has neither a naive willingness to believe, nor an a priori incredulity. You people have a naive willingness to believe when you read mainstream info and an a priori incredulity when you read alternative info. Your arguments aren't going to impress the viewers who think clearly.
 
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