Okay, now how are people supposed to refrain from personal attacks with people like this just swinging the door open like that?
"Yeah, but in everyone else's eyes... you're the perfect A**HOLE."
LOL.
pardon... just too easy.
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Okay, now how are people supposed to refrain from personal attacks with people like this just swinging the door open like that?
"Yeah, but in everyone else's eyes... you're the perfect A**HOLE."
LOL.
pardon... just too easy.
Re: I'm no preacher
It bothers me when I am debating the validity of religion with a religious person and after I make a point, said person says "well in the bible it says blah blah blah" That is totally fucking irrelevant and annoying. I am asking them as a human being what they think and they quote the fucking bible. Its stupid and annoying and I can't talk to people like that for too long or I will go insane.
Dr Lou Natic
Its stupid and annoying and I can't talk to people like that for too long or I will go insane.
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Well you've earned your name as far as I'm concerned ....
Its stupid and annoying and I can't talk to people like that for too long or I will go insane.
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Well you've earned your name as far as I'm concerned ....
Don't call people insane, because it's so obvious that you're the insane one in here. Examine your words above. You said God is Jesus Christ. Your own bible says:
Jesus said, why call me good, none is good save god.
If Jesus is god, then why the hell does he say that he is not good. He should have at least said that he is a little god.
Not only that you are calling Jesus good, you are calling Jesus god. He'll kick your butt in Judgement day when you tell god, I want Jesus and not you, and jesus will say, I don't know that infedel who does not devot himself to my god.
heflores
If Jesus is god, then why the hell does he say that he is not good. He should have at least said that he is a little god.
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Jesus said, why call me good, none is good save god.
You miss what He meant,
If you call Me good, and none's good but God...then who am I..?
He said the same thing to Peter...
"Who do people say I the Son of Man am?
Peter said some say thou art Elias, or (that prophet)...to come
(See Mal. 4)
Who do you say I am?
Peter said: Thou art the Christ, the Son of the Living God...
Don't attempt to twist scripture.......please....
Surely you can find some "real" problems in it without making some up?
If not why do you stay in darkness.
If Jesus is god, then why the hell does he say that he is not good. He should have at least said that he is a little god.
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Jesus said, why call me good, none is good save god.
You miss what He meant,
If you call Me good, and none's good but God...then who am I..?
He said the same thing to Peter...
"Who do people say I the Son of Man am?
Peter said some say thou art Elias, or (that prophet)...to come
(See Mal. 4)
Who do you say I am?
Peter said: Thou art the Christ, the Son of the Living God...
Don't attempt to twist scripture.......please....
Surely you can find some "real" problems in it without making some up?
If not why do you stay in darkness.
You're twisting your own twisted bible
Matt.19
[17] And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Mark.10
[18] And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
Luke.18
[19] And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
There is no way in hell that Jesus was implying in these verses that he is god. He is yelling at the guy that was saying that Jesus is good and correcting him and saying that he is not good. Good is an adjective to be saved only for god.
You're not just in darkness. God wrath must be on you, because from the position you are in, you've already decided to be a pagan and believe in other than god, even if that other was a great prophet of god.
Matt.19
[17] And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Mark.10
[18] And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
Luke.18
[19] And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
There is no way in hell that Jesus was implying in these verses that he is god. He is yelling at the guy that was saying that Jesus is good and correcting him and saying that he is not good. Good is an adjective to be saved only for god.
You're not just in darkness. God wrath must be on you, because from the position you are in, you've already decided to be a pagan and believe in other than god, even if that other was a great prophet of god.
persol
He said If you've seen me , you've seen the Father
However, His "flesh" was not God
there you are...
He said If you've seen me , you've seen the Father
However, His "flesh" was not God
there you are...
heflores
There is no way in hell that Jesus was implying in these verses that he is god
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these verses...........you said.
But thats wrong when you take what He said in all the verses.
They all speak together in one voice.
The Voice of God
There is no way in hell that Jesus was implying in these verses that he is god
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these verses...........you said.
But thats wrong when you take what He said in all the verses.
They all speak together in one voice.
The Voice of God
He said If you've seen me , you've seen the Father
Which does not say that he is God.
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Give me a minute, and I'll have you 50 scriptures that say He is.
Want to see....?
Which does not say that he is God.
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Give me a minute, and I'll have you 50 scriptures that say He is.
Want to see....?
I doubt that you'll be able to find 50 without stretching what it says. However, there are parts that can be easily interpreted to say Jesus is God.
For example: John 10:30 "I and the father are one"
Which in the Greek that means one and the same (according to the source I found).
My point is that you keep quoting scripture just to do it. Usually they don't even support your argument.
For example: John 10:30 "I and the father are one"
Which in the Greek that means one and the same (according to the source I found).
My point is that you keep quoting scripture just to do it. Usually they don't even support your argument.
Matthew 28:19 - Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Acts 2:38 - Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
These two together say He is God.
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Acts 8:12 - But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women
The " Name" of the Father
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Acts 10:36 - The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all)
2 Corinthians 4:5 - For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.
1 Timothy 2:5 - For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
There's One Lord..
His flesh was not God....
I've been very clear but the church has cloulded people' minds with over 1500 years of indoctrination towards the trinity.
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Mark 12:29 - And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
1 Corinthians 8:6 - But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Ephesians 4:5 - One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
John 17:22 - And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
Acts 2:38 - Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
These two together say He is God.
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Acts 8:12 - But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women
The " Name" of the Father
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Acts 10:36 - The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all)
2 Corinthians 4:5 - For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.
1 Timothy 2:5 - For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
There's One Lord..
His flesh was not God....
I've been very clear but the church has cloulded people' minds with over 1500 years of indoctrination towards the trinity.
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Mark 12:29 - And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
1 Corinthians 8:6 - But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Ephesians 4:5 - One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
John 17:22 - And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
You said God saw you as perfect and perfection does not lie and you told Persol you will show him 50 scriptures but you showed him 10. LIAR!
just go eat more swine, you have no clue about religion
oh Yeah, all speak in one voice. so which voice do the christians hear when they eat pig, and do pig barbeques in their churches.??
Lev.11
[7] And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.
Deut.14
[8] And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you: ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcase.
2Mac.7
[1] It came to pass also, that seven brethren with their mother were taken, and compelled by the king against the law to taste swine's flesh, and were tormented with scourges and whips.
Isa.65
[4] Which remain among the graves, and lodge in the monuments, which eat swine's flesh, and broth of abominable things is in their vessels;
oh Yeah, all speak in one voice. so which voice do the christians hear when they eat pig, and do pig barbeques in their churches.??
Lev.11
[7] And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.
Deut.14
[8] And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you: ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcase.
2Mac.7
[1] It came to pass also, that seven brethren with their mother were taken, and compelled by the king against the law to taste swine's flesh, and were tormented with scourges and whips.
Isa.65
[4] Which remain among the graves, and lodge in the monuments, which eat swine's flesh, and broth of abominable things is in their vessels;
You just had to try anyway, huh?
Originally posted by TheVisitor
Matthew 28:19
Acts 2:38
These two together say He is God.
Or it could mean that the Holy Ghost wants you to worship Jesus instead of God. That doesn't mean Jesus is God.
Acts 8:12
The " Name" of the Father
That is a stretch at best.
Acts 10:36
2 Corinthians 4:5
There's One Lord.
Fine Jesus is The Lord.
1 Timothy 2:5
Says he is a mediator, doesn't say he is God.
His flesh was not God....
Which doesn't help your argument any, especially because it contradicts "If you've seen me , you've seen the Father"
I've been very clear
No, you really haven't. Your quotes do not support your argument.
Mark 12:29
Many people in the Bible claim to be one with God. This could be all that Jesus is saying (but it is a much better quote then everything else you've said)
1 Corinthians 8:6
It says that the Father is God, and leave Jesus as The Lord.
Ephesians 4:5
Also doesn't say Jesus is God.
John 17:22
Another stretch
Originally posted by TheVisitor
Matthew 28:19
Acts 2:38
These two together say He is God.
Or it could mean that the Holy Ghost wants you to worship Jesus instead of God. That doesn't mean Jesus is God.
Acts 8:12
The " Name" of the Father
That is a stretch at best.
Acts 10:36
2 Corinthians 4:5
There's One Lord.
Fine Jesus is The Lord.
1 Timothy 2:5
Says he is a mediator, doesn't say he is God.
His flesh was not God....
Which doesn't help your argument any, especially because it contradicts "If you've seen me , you've seen the Father"
I've been very clear
No, you really haven't. Your quotes do not support your argument.
Mark 12:29
Many people in the Bible claim to be one with God. This could be all that Jesus is saying (but it is a much better quote then everything else you've said)
1 Corinthians 8:6
It says that the Father is God, and leave Jesus as The Lord.
Ephesians 4:5
Also doesn't say Jesus is God.
John 17:22
Another stretch
You said God saw you as perfect and perfection does not lie and you told Persol you will show him 50 scriptures but you showed him 10. LIAR!
I wasn't going to bring it up
oh Yeah, all speak in one voice. so which voice do the christians hear when they eat pig, and do pig barbeques in their churches.??
Hehe.
I wasn't going to bring it up
oh Yeah, all speak in one voice. so which voice do the christians hear when they eat pig, and do pig barbeques in their churches.??
Hehe.
oh Yeah, all speak in one voice. so which voice do the christians hear when they eat pig, and do pig barbeques in their churches.??
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Paul went over this issue in detail.
It was a concern with the Jews.
Acts 10:28 - and he said to them, "You yourselves know how unlawful it is for a Jew to associate with or to visit any one of another nation; but God has shown me that I should not call any man common or unclean
The pig as an unclean animal was a type of the Gentiles a un-clean people.......until Jesus.
Acts 11:5 I was in the city of Joppa praying; and in a trance I saw a vision, something descending, like a great sheet, let down from heaven by four corners; and it came down to me. 6 Looking at it closely I observed animals and beasts of prey and reptiles and birds of the air. 7 And I heard a voice saying to me, 'Rise, Peter; kill and eat.' 8 But I said, 'No, Lord; for nothing common or unclean has ever entered my mouth.' 9 But the voice answered a second time from heaven, 'What God has cleansed you must not
call common.'
Romans 14:14 - I know and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself; but it is unclean for any one who thinks it unclean.
Paul was careful not to offend those of "weak faith" who lack understanding, But said He was afraid of "those" who keep certain days or forbid the eating of meats, and make tradition of the washing of hand and pots and pans into the basis of their religion.....
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Paul went over this issue in detail.
It was a concern with the Jews.
Acts 10:28 - and he said to them, "You yourselves know how unlawful it is for a Jew to associate with or to visit any one of another nation; but God has shown me that I should not call any man common or unclean
The pig as an unclean animal was a type of the Gentiles a un-clean people.......until Jesus.
Acts 11:5 I was in the city of Joppa praying; and in a trance I saw a vision, something descending, like a great sheet, let down from heaven by four corners; and it came down to me. 6 Looking at it closely I observed animals and beasts of prey and reptiles and birds of the air. 7 And I heard a voice saying to me, 'Rise, Peter; kill and eat.' 8 But I said, 'No, Lord; for nothing common or unclean has ever entered my mouth.' 9 But the voice answered a second time from heaven, 'What God has cleansed you must not
call common.'
Romans 14:14 - I know and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself; but it is unclean for any one who thinks it unclean.
Paul was careful not to offend those of "weak faith" who lack understanding, But said He was afraid of "those" who keep certain days or forbid the eating of meats, and make tradition of the washing of hand and pots and pans into the basis of their religion.....
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I see, not eating unclean meats and washing the pots and pans and hands are such awfull habits that they are to be abandoned. So Christianity is an unclean religion, where one may never bath, stink, ruin one's stomach by eating unclean meats with dangerous worms, never fast like Jesus did, never pray since Jesus never taught christians how to pray, reaad a book that Jesus never recommended should be read or even read himself......just random babelling of whatever pagan rituals the pastor says....and wala...you're saved......Are you retarded my friend?
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I see, not eating unclean meats and washing the pots and pans and hands are such awfull habits that they are to be abandoned
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Acts 10:28 - and he said to them, "You yourselves know how unlawful it is for a Jew to associate with or to visit any one of another nation; but God has shown me that I should not call any man common or unclean
Acts 11:5 I was in the city of Joppa praying; and in a trance I saw a vision, something descending, like a great sheet, let down from heaven by four corners; and it came down to me. 6 Looking at it closely I observed animals and beasts of prey and reptiles and birds of the air. 7 And I heard a voice saying to me, 'Rise, Peter; kill and eat.' 8 But I said, 'No, Lord; for nothing common or unclean has ever entered my mouth.' 9 But the voice answered a second time from heaven, 'What God has cleansed you must not
call common.'
Romans 14:14 - I know and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself; but it is unclean for any one who thinks it unclean.
The pig as an unclean animal was a type of the Gentiles a un-clean people.......until Jesus.
When the "Real" comes into existance, the "Shadow" of the type is revealed and it's meaning magnified.
I see, not eating unclean meats and washing the pots and pans and hands are such awfull habits that they are to be abandoned
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Acts 10:28 - and he said to them, "You yourselves know how unlawful it is for a Jew to associate with or to visit any one of another nation; but God has shown me that I should not call any man common or unclean
Acts 11:5 I was in the city of Joppa praying; and in a trance I saw a vision, something descending, like a great sheet, let down from heaven by four corners; and it came down to me. 6 Looking at it closely I observed animals and beasts of prey and reptiles and birds of the air. 7 And I heard a voice saying to me, 'Rise, Peter; kill and eat.' 8 But I said, 'No, Lord; for nothing common or unclean has ever entered my mouth.' 9 But the voice answered a second time from heaven, 'What God has cleansed you must not
call common.'
Romans 14:14 - I know and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself; but it is unclean for any one who thinks it unclean.
The pig as an unclean animal was a type of the Gentiles a un-clean people.......until Jesus.
When the "Real" comes into existance, the "Shadow" of the type is revealed and it's meaning magnified.
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