What a load of stereotypical downright sexist tripe!
This is your answer to the question about what it means to be a woman?
Yes I object to the notion that transgender women are in fact women.
Why?
How does a transgender woman diminish your own biology?
Because she has not shared your experiences? Your female experiences? I probably haven't shared your experiences and vice versa.. Does that mean I am less of a woman than you are?
A woman is a female, a female is a biological reality.
Only if she fits into a particular set of criteria by the looks of it if your argument is to be taken seriously.
Again I refer you to the question of whether a little boy in a dress playing with dolls is a girl or a little boy wearing a dress playing with dolls. The answer lies there.
That depends on how and who the child identifies themselves as.
Unless of course you advocate pushing sexual stereotypes on children from a young age instead of allowing them to be themselves?
A woman can be anything right? She can be a bulldyke who drives a 16 wheeler, she can be a beauty queen, she can be a mother, she can be a lesbian. She can look feminine and behave with feminine traits or she can be masculine and behave with masculine traits. That is feminist theory.
Is it? Because last I checked, feminist theory never advocated for pigeonholing women into certain roles and it certainly did not advocate stereotyping women in the manner that you have been in this thread.
All that also pertains to men. Feminist theory posits that feminism frees men because they too are are to project their gender in any way they choose. So an effeminate man who loves fashion is still a man and as much a man as the alpha male stereotype, both are in fact men who are expressing gender differently, meanwhile the effeminate man can be a heterosexual and the alpha guy gay so this isn’t about sexual orientation. Gender expression cannot and does not change biological reality. So are trans women women? No, they are men who’s gender expression differs from the norm but that doesn’t make them suddenly female because if that’s the case then every little boy who’s effeminate as a child should be called girl, something that little boys usually say to another boy child to shame and humiliate them. Get it?
You don't seem to have a single clue about what your argument should be. Instead, you appear to be taking little bits and pieces, from here and there and mashing it all together and it comes out like a jumbled mess, such as what we see directly above..
The very idea of denying women their sexuality because they do not fit into the mold set for women
by men, is astonishing to me.
Even more astonishing is to see the line of feminists come out and reinstate the sexual stereotyping of women that were foisted on women
by men for a multitude of generations, to speak out against transgender women. Actually no, it's not astonishing. It is rage inducing. Gender expression and
gender identity (I notice how you keep leaving that out), is everything about how we identify ourselves. Instead of stereotyping the sexes based solely on what is between their legs, how about individuals choose who they want to be based on who and what they identify as? You know, the very notion of feminism is about gender identity, is about choice. It is about identifying as a woman and being able to do whatever the fuck we want, when we want it and how we want it. Instead of reiterating that, we see the uber so called feminists, one of whom has admitted to sexualising young boys for her own sexual pleasure, trot out the very stereotyping of women that so many feminists before them fought against. And why? Oh no, because of transgender women! It is downright obscene. These feminists are forcing women to adhere to gender stereotypes that has been forced on us and our female ancestors, because they are so transphobic, that they rather set the women's rights movement back centuries then accept that one's sexual identity has more to do about what's in one's brain than what is between our legs.
You don't get it, do you?
Feminists like Greer demand that women be subjugated and stereotyped, because without it, then they are left with nothing to say or write about. Greer is one of the most sexist feminists I know and believe me, having met the woman a few times, I left those events where our paths crossed wanting to douse myself in petrol and set myself alight because she demeans any woman who does not fit into what she thinks a woman should look like or be like.
Well historically speaking feminist theory was about the vagina (woman’s physical reality) in the sense that its the vagina that forced her into fixed gender roles. It was the vagina that allowed for sexual domination. It was the birth of children that kept her at home and dependent. How women used their vaginas has always been politicized and it’s the vagina that men had used as an excuse against women’s liberation. Without the physical reality there would be no feminism, there would be no point. Or as one feminist said "Some people seem to think that if we abolish gender, everyone will be forced to sport khaki robes and buzz cuts. This is because they confuse (time- and place- specific) gender signifiers with the actual underlying gender hierarchy. They think of gender as a costume, rather than a set of power relations."At the end of the day it was reproductive freedom (the pill and abortion) that solidified women’s rights but that’s a different discussion.
So pray tell, why in the hell are you now invoking the vagina and espousing the very gender roles that were forced upon women as what defines us as women in your zeal to whine about transgender women?
And I happen to know of the blogger you pulled that quote from as well as that image from. Perhaps you should link it. The biggest pathetic part of this whole ridiculous debate is the silence about transexual men and their "biology". How great is your safe space going to be when these men are forced to use the women's locker-room and bathrooms because of "biology".
You’re confusing apples and oranges. When I speak of the history of being a woman I mean the trajectory of being a little girl who becomes a woman through her biological reality.
First you go on about "biological reality" and now you ignore that entirely and you appear to have latched on to the social upbringing of females to instill the gender stereotype.. Which is it?
You want to speak about the trajectory of being a little girl who becomes a woman through her biological reality? What of the little girl who are forced to live the life of a little boy from infancy through to adulthood and when she reaches adulthood, comes out as a woman she has always identified herself as being? Is she not a woman? Or would you identify her as a man?
What about a little boy who is forced to live the life of a girl from infancy through to adulthood, despite never identifying as female and experiencing everything as a little boy? Is he a man? Male? Or woman because the experiences, the arc of that child's upbringing identified him as a woman, an arc the child never asked for, but was foisted on that child based on gender stereotyping?
Frankly, your argument is bogus. It demands that women fit into these gender stereotypes set for us by men in the past.
Now gender is something else. Gender is about masculine and feminine traits which are mostly, not totally but mostly a social and cultural construction. Is a man who stays home to raise his children suddenly a mother? No. Is he suddenly a woman? No. Is a man in a dress suddenly a woman or homosexual? No. He’s just a man who likes to wear dresses but because of how our culture and society frames gender around biological sex we conflate the desire to wear a dress as literally becoming a different sex because we like to see gender roles as fixed with biology. Trans theory says because the little boy plays with dolls and wears a dress he’s a girl and should fix his biology to fix what’s in his head. Get it now?
Actually, trans theory looks at self identity and who and what we identify with and how. Trans theory is about sense of self, of owning one's self and not being forced into gender stereotypes and instead being about everyone being able to live our lives as who and what we identify with and how.
Do you get it now?
Who said feminists don’t embrace them? All these critics are not claiming men shouldn’t wear a dress, take hormones or have surgery. They are objecting to trans theory which states that being a woman isn’t a biological reality.
Trans theory argue that being a woman is also about how we identify as, Lucyshow.
It's about self identity. It's about being free to be who and what we all want to be, trans or not.
I don’t understand why this is so hard to wrap ones head around and I don’t mean you personally I’m just saying in general. Trans theory is taken at face value and we are not taking the time to understand it.
The same thing was said about women's rights and the rights of minorities around the world.
We want to hark back to those dark ages about transgender people too now?
