Tipping over

Enmos said:
Of course..

Look, I love my life and my family and friends.
I don't want me or any of them to die..
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But you just said that, if given the power, you would kill every man, woman, and child on earth. That is morally reprehensible, it is selfish, it is evil. Even Hitler only wanted to kill the Jews, you'd kill us all.
 
madanthonywayne said:
But you just said that, if given the power, you would kill every man, woman, and child on earth. That is morally reprehensible, it is selfish, it is evil. Even Hitler only wanted to kill the Jews, you'd kill us all.
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Correct. But it's strictly hypothetical.
Ever heard of sacrificing one for the good of the many ?
 
Enmos said:
Correct. But it's strictly hypothetical.
Ever heard of sacrificing one for the good of the many ?
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Sure, but you'd sacrifice everyone for no one!
ashura said:
Geez Enmos, can you imagine turning to your mother and saying to her face, "Mom, I've been given the power to kill every human on Earth, including you and me, and I'm going to do it"?
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Enmos said:
Yes. Sorry, I must be evil.
But it will never happen :p
I can whip up an analogy if you want..
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So it's only your lack of power that preventa you from committing the greatest atrocity ever imagined? And you think using an emoticon with a smiley face mitigates the immorality of such a desire?
 
Enmos...we humans see you as a threat to us...we are the supreme rulers of this universe, your ambitions are against our desires...
 
madanthonywayne said:
Sure, but you'd sacrifice everyone for no one!
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Huh ? :bugeye:

madanthonywayne said:
So it's only your lack of power that preventa you from committing the greatest atrocity ever imagined?
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I notice you are getting emotional.. ?
Maybe I can't do when it really comes to it.
I would happily embrace any scenario that avoids removing humans.

madanthonywayne said:
And you think using an emoticon with a smiley face mitigates the immorality of such a desire?
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Necessary evil ?
 
this again said:
Less than 1% of CO2 is man made.
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As simply correcting this, including linking to the correct figures etc, has proven fruitless, we must continue to swat it on each individual appearance.

According to the people who measure such things, a little less than 40% of the CO2 in the air over your head at the moment was generated by fossil fuel combustion.
 
draqon said:
Typical rhetorical remark.
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Typical draqon.

Enmos: What I think is so disturbing to the rest of us is where you're placing your priorities. Generally speaking, it's humans first, everything else later. ie. if you had to choose between saving every animal within 10 acres of a forest and saving a human, which would you do?
 
ashura said:
What I think is so disturbing to the rest of us is where you're placing your priorities. Generally speaking, it's humans first, everything else later.
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What if 'humans first' means death to all, including humans ?
Wouldn't it then make sense to save 'everything else' ?

ashura said:
ie. if you had to choose between saving every animal within 10 acres of a forest and saving a human, which would you do?
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Isolated event ? Saving the human.
Not saving the human would have no impact whatsoever.
 
Enmos if you had 100 baby mice and one human...but could only save either 100 mice or one human...who would you save?
 
draqon said:
Enmos if you had 100 baby mice and one human...but could only save either 100 mice or one human...who would you save?
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Same answer as above. It's all or nothing.. well almost all would suffice I think.
 
Enmos said:
What if 'humans first' means death to all, including humans ?
Wouldn't it then make sense to save 'everything else' ?
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No, or at least not in my view. Even after we're gone, it's not like life won't exist on the planet.
 
ashura said:
No, or at least not in my view. Even after we're gone, it's not like life won't exist on the planet.
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But at current pace all ecosystems would be utterly destroyed.
There just too many humans, we are already in the midst of a mass extinction.
 
There is always SPACE!

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Maybe it would be more 'acceptable' if you view it like this:

Would you die for your loved one if you knew it would save her ?
 
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