Seattle
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I thought trolling was a banning offence?
Tiassa trolls a thread about abortion
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Point to it.
Seattle
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No.Aren't you trolling as well?(not that I blame you)
Seattle
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He voted for number 2.
"I would say that such decisions should be made by the woman"
Again, shame on you for your intentional deception.
Wrong answer, Bill: That wasn't the question.
To reiterate the last reminder↑: The question was whether you acknowledge and affirm a woman's humanity and human rights.
It really would have been easier just to say yes, unless, of course, that's not the actual answer.
Just like it seems extraneous to make up things to be afraid of↗.
Anyway, Bill, about your latest miss: Was it intentional deception on your part, or are you just having trouble keeping up?
Seattle
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Do you acknowledge and affirm a man's humanity and human rights? I haven't been able to find where you have specifically done this? If you have, my apologies. If you haven't why not? If you have, please provide a link.
Yes, I do.
Comparatively speaking, was it ever really in question?
I mean, that's the thing, if you haven't found a specific prior record, it might have to do with the man's humanity and human rights being implicit inasmuch as the masculine circumstance is, historically, the basis for asserting human rights. As a practical matter, it doesn't come up much. Rhetorically, it's kind of like the white history month question and the answer being the other eleven months. Sometimes such direct juxtapositions, while superficially obvious, just don't work inasmuch as the compared elements do not function the same way.
Pretending unawareness and incomprehension only undermines you. Like you said.
Yes, James, which is why you shouldn't keep hiding in fallacy. Pretending you aren't smart enough to discern the difference↑ between the two questions only discredits you.
Seattle
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Was it ever really in question regarding James?
Yes.
Seattle
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How so?
It's not exactly amazing how James just shouldn't have to answer. Oh, poor, beleaguered James.
Meanwhile, he has asserted a position at odds with an affirmative answer.
It's not exactly subtle.
Still, what the hell are y'all so afraid of that how many people, now, should spend how many words and how much effort refusing to say yes?
For the record, I wrote reasonable extensively about my views on abortion in the thread from which this thread was split. Relevant posts in which my position is clearly set out include the following:
https://www.sciforums.com/threads/m...on-should-be-legal.166284/page-2#post-3724970
https://www.sciforums.com/threads/m...on-should-be-legal.166284/page-2#post-3724971
https://www.sciforums.com/threads/m...on-should-be-legal.166284/page-3#post-3725072
In the third post, I responded to the following question from cluelusshusbund:
Let's ignore the fact that Tiassa has known me for more than 20 years and is already very well aware of my pro-choice views regarding abortion, which I have posted on numerous occasions on this forum over the past 20 years. Taking the most charitable possible view, maybe Tiassa is going senile, or has developed long-term memory issues for other reasons, and so honestly can't remember any of those other times. Assuming that, then, let's just review the evidence of my position from the thread that Tiassa was so determined to troll, in isolation.
Here's the pertinent question for you, Tiassa: if I say that I believe that a woman's decision to have an abortion (or not) should be made by her, how could that not acknowledge and affirm that she is a human being whom I believe should have the right to choose?
Perhaps, if you're hell bent on trolling, you can find some tortured alternative way to mangle the clear and obvious meaning of what I wrote - what I have written consistently for more than 20 years - to turn it into some kind of twisted allegation that I'm somehow a misogynist. But only if you're hell bent on trolling.
Which, of course, you were and you are.
In trying to troll the original thread by insinuating a stupid straw man accusation, all you have achieved is to once again confirm that you're a pathetic, vindictive little man with an enormous chip on his shoulder, who has sacrificed his own morality and his reputation in order to pursue a pathetic and fruitless personal vendetta.
You should stop that nonsense. Don't try to make yourself feel better by putting other people down. It might make you feel good in the short term, but it is fatal to having constructive, respectful and mutually beneficial relationships in the longer term. You'll end up a sad, bitter old man with no friends if you continue like this.
https://www.sciforums.com/threads/m...on-should-be-legal.166284/page-2#post-3724970
https://www.sciforums.com/threads/m...on-should-be-legal.166284/page-2#post-3724971
https://www.sciforums.com/threads/m...on-should-be-legal.166284/page-3#post-3725072
In the third post, I responded to the following question from cluelusshusbund:
How about you… how far along in her pregnancy woud be you’r cut-off time for her to have an abortion… days… weeks… months.???
I wrote:
I would say that such decisions should be made by the woman, in consultation with the health professionals who are aware of all the circumstances in her particular case.
Any one-size-fits-all "cut-off" date is inevitably going to be arbitrary and not appropriate in all circumstances. Therefore, I would prefer not to see such things legislated.
Tiassa asked me:Any one-size-fits-all "cut-off" date is inevitably going to be arbitrary and not appropriate in all circumstances. Therefore, I would prefer not to see such things legislated.
James, do you acknowledge and affirm that women are human beings and have human rights?
Tiassa is the only person who was apparently unable to figure out my position based on what I wrote.
Let's ignore the fact that Tiassa has known me for more than 20 years and is already very well aware of my pro-choice views regarding abortion, which I have posted on numerous occasions on this forum over the past 20 years. Taking the most charitable possible view, maybe Tiassa is going senile, or has developed long-term memory issues for other reasons, and so honestly can't remember any of those other times. Assuming that, then, let's just review the evidence of my position from the thread that Tiassa was so determined to troll, in isolation.
Here's the pertinent question for you, Tiassa: if I say that I believe that a woman's decision to have an abortion (or not) should be made by her, how could that not acknowledge and affirm that she is a human being whom I believe should have the right to choose?
Perhaps, if you're hell bent on trolling, you can find some tortured alternative way to mangle the clear and obvious meaning of what I wrote - what I have written consistently for more than 20 years - to turn it into some kind of twisted allegation that I'm somehow a misogynist. But only if you're hell bent on trolling.
Which, of course, you were and you are.
In trying to troll the original thread by insinuating a stupid straw man accusation, all you have achieved is to once again confirm that you're a pathetic, vindictive little man with an enormous chip on his shoulder, who has sacrificed his own morality and his reputation in order to pursue a pathetic and fruitless personal vendetta.
You should stop that nonsense. Don't try to make yourself feel better by putting other people down. It might make you feel good in the short term, but it is fatal to having constructive, respectful and mutually beneficial relationships in the longer term. You'll end up a sad, bitter old man with no friends if you continue like this.
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In defence of James R... ie... To arbitrate this issue:::
James R... will you directly answrs the queston an says YES even tho you dont mean it... an in exchange... take away that moderator warnin/pont you gave Tiassa.???
Huh? Is there something unreasonable in what I've written? Is there something you think I've done wrong, here, that needs your excuses?
I'm sorry. Did you not understand the content of post #36, above?
What are you talking about with "even tho you dont mean it"?
What do you think I don't mean? Have I not been clear about what I mean? Can I help clarify things for you?
Did you not understand the rather detailed reply I gave specifically to you in the original thread, from which this one was split and which - helpfully - I linked above, in this thread?
You want me to ignore Tiassa's trolling?
Why do you think there should be one rule for Tiassa and a different rule for everybody else?
Which he, of course, did. So we are left with two possible scenarios:
1) You are incapable of understanding simple written English
2) You are deliberately misinterpreting his replies in order to elicit an angry response (i.e. trolling.)
Which option is the most likely is left as an exercise for the reader.
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