the real collusion investigation.

[Beaconator]

Yep. They like the military, the US road system, air traffic control, the CDC, the national parks, water and sewer systems, police and fire departments etc etc.

I take it you hate those socialist organizations.

That's not how it works today. One man (Trump) decides to spend ten billion dollars. We get nothing. LOL! LOL! LOL!

If someone spends money somebody else gets it for a purpose. (Please argue further) (as the dots are not connected in your brain.)

It costs 500 thousand dollars to wire an ambulance. People that work in them afterword are paid and fed. Taxes pay for that and I'm not against it.

"Taxation" is a "socialist" ideologue.

I'm against the poor implementation of taxes which currently goes to certain democrats and some republicans in order to do nihilistic things.

The allocation of justice for ones own gains is not inherently evil. It is only evil when it allows evil to pervade.

Philology- perverse, coerce, invade.

 

[Write4U]

They said use this for the Trump campaign and he did so twice. That's having your cake and eating it too. As opposed to spilling it all over the floor like you dropped it in Vegas.

He did not. He claimed a 100 million dollar inaugural party, but about 3/4 of tht money just disappeared. If those donations are not used for election purposes but end up in your personal account, that's fraud.

 

[Write4U]

"Taxation" is a "socialist" ideologue.

You want to drive on dirt roads? No inter-state highways? No public facilities of any kind? Schools, Hospitals?

That is where your socialist taxes are being applied to. Instead lets go back to the perfect Capitalist structure where you don't have to pay for labor at all. Your capitalist infra structure can be build by slaves as was done in days of old.

Is that what you are suggesting?

 

[billvon]

If someone spends money somebody else gets it for a purpose.

Correct. And if you lie and use it for something else you are defrauding them.

It costs 500 thousand dollars to wire an ambulance. People that work in them afterword are paid and fed. Taxes pay for that and I'm not against it.

Agreed.

And if you take $500,000 from taxpayers to wire an ambulance, and stick it in your bank account for your retirement, while telling the ambulance company "too bad, so sad, you lose" you have embezzled it. Odd that you don't understand that.

"Taxation" is a "socialist" ideologue.

An ideologue is a person. Taxation is how a government raises money. Want stuff like a wall and a big military? You have to pay for it. Economics 101.

I'm against the poor implementation of taxes which currently goes to certain democrats and some republicans in order to do nihilistic things.

Most tax income goes to Republicans. Fact. In fact, most red states take more federal tax than they pay. But don't worry - the blue states will support your socialist red state programs.

Your donations are gracious.

Thank you. What have you done?

They said use this for the Trump campaign and he did so twice.

Nope. It disappeared into his pocket.

I understood he was accused of rape a long time ago. There just aren't many (if any... )Cases of a man convicted of raping his wife.

So you have gone to "he was never accused of rape" to "it wasn't true" to "he was only accused of rape once?"

"In a variety of cultures, marriage after a rape of an unmarried woman has been treated historically as a "resolution" to the rape, that is, a "reparatory marriage". Although laws that exonerate the perpetrator if he marries his victim after the rape are often associated with the Middle East,[159] such laws were very common around the world until the second half of the 20th century. For instance, as late as 1997, 14 Latin American countries had such laws,[160] although most of these countries have abolished them"- some random person on Wikipedia

Yes. Republicans are well known for defending rapists, and minimizing claims of rape. Congratulations.

 

[Beaconator]

Correct. And if you lie and use it for something else you are defrauding them.

Agreed.

And if you take $500,000 from taxpayers to wire an ambulance, and stick it in your bank account for your retirement, while telling the ambulance company "too bad, so sad, you lose" you have embezzled it. Odd that you don't understand that.

An ideologue is a person. Taxation is how a government raises money. Want stuff like a wall and a big military? You have to pay for it. Economics 101.

Most tax income goes to Republicans. Fact. In fact, most red states take more federal tax than they pay. But don't worry - the blue states will support your socialist red state programs.

Thank you. What have you done?

Nope. It disappeared into his pocket.

So you have gone to "he was never accused of rape" to "it wasn't true" to "he was only accused of rape once?"

Yes. Republicans are well known for defending rapists, and minimizing claims of rape. Congratulations.

We were discussing the "truth" of rape which I find no allegations convincing enough to remember. Like most of your posts and incongruities I can only put a worldly light upon. Them.

The ideology of rebuplic on the other hand has a great history of convicting rapists and every member of the democratic party is an elected member of the republic. By that fact itself and many others you sir are a misinformed liar, And spread those lies through your own instances of "moral obligation to the greater good".

That is to say you are not corrupt yourself.

I love Latin. Too bad your too young to hear a church service spoken in Latin.

How does good and evil play into your ideology of socialism? Ill tell you if you don't know

 

[Beaconator]

You want to drive on dirt roads? No inter-state highways? No public facilities of any kind? Schools, Hospitals?

That is where your socialist taxes are being applied to. Instead lets go back to the perfect Capitalist structure where you don't have to pay for labor at all. Your capitalist infra structure can be build by slaves as was done in days of old.

Is that what you are suggesting?

You forgot parks. And no slavery isn't. I'm just against any further advancement of socialist ideas which demote freedom of the people's money as a politicians personal bank account.

Slavery is a socialist idea created long before money. Money was created for the progress of freedom to evolve. An earned amount to do with as an individual pleases.

But please go ahead and convolute history. What state do you live in? I will start writing the high school lesson plans.

 

[Beaconator]

Nope. It disappeared into his pocket.

You just keep taking what I say and corrupt it... What good comes from corrupting another?

Money doesn't disappear. Its a form of never-ending trade.

 

[Beaconator]

He did not. He claimed a 100 million dollar inaugural party, but about 3/4 of tht money just disappeared. If those donations are not used for election purposes but end up in your personal account, that's fraud.

Yeah and ill believe that when George Washington buys beer and whiskey in order to get elected.

 

[iceaura]

The allocation of justice for ones own gains is not inherently evil.

It is, however, illegal. In the Presidency, it's a violation of the oath of office as well.

The ideology of rebuplic on the other hand has a great history of convicting rapists and every member of the democratic party is an elected member of the republic.

Based on that and reams of other such postings by many different people, I claim that all Trump voters are illiterate as well as ignorant.
Find a counterexample?

How does good and evil play into your ideology of socialism? Ill tell you if you don't know

By your posting, you don't know what socialism is, or what an ideology is.
And you are a willing supporter of evil men doing evil things. That suggests you don't have a clue about good and evil, either.
But you're welcome to surprise us.

 

[Write4U]

Slavery is a socialist idea created long before money.

Yes, a socialist idea, implemented by and for the benefit of slave owners. Provide food and shelter but no salaries, equally distributed among the workforce. How humane can you get?

Sure, sure, you just keep believing that. That's the whole idea spread by the slave owners.

I remember a WWII slogan somewhere; "Arbeit macht frei". It was used by concentration camps, you know those first experiments in "benign socialism" (pure capitalism).

We have a much improved social distribution system now, it's called ; "trickle down economics"

 

[Beaconator]

Yes, a socialist idea, implemented by and for the benefit of slave owners. Provide food and shelter but no salaries, equally distributed among the workforce. How humane can you get?

Sure, sure, you just keep believing that. That's the whole idea spread by the slave owners.

I remember a WWII slogan somewhere; "Arbeit macht frei". It was used by concentration camps, you know those first experiments in "benign socialism" (pure capitalism).

We have a much improved social distribution system now, it's called ; "trickle down economics"

What's your point? Please expand on your history lesson before I point out the obvious misconceptions in your sarcasm. 2 a failure to define foreign words. 3 how any of what you posted fits together.

 

[iceaura]

Slavery is a socialist idea created long before money.

Not chattel slavery. Chattel slavery is capitalist - the slave is private property used as a means of service or production, i.e. a chattel slave is capital.
That idea - best exemplified in pure form by Confederate plantation slavery, with human beings as a capital investment - is not socialist. It is capitalist. By definition.

Socialist slavery is of course possible, as in the old USSR - the use of prisoners captured by a State government to do work for that State, as favored by many Republicans, comes close.

 

[Write4U]

What's your point? Please expand on your history lesson before I point out the obvious misconceptions in your sarcasm.

I see it as a lesson in humane morality.

2 a failure to define foreign words.

That shows your lack of knowledge in the character of various historic dictators who would rule the world. ( It means "Work sets you free" and was the greeting slogan in WWII German labor camps)

3 how any of what you posted fits together.

If you cannot see the dangers in giving any one person complete control, without a set of "co-equal branches of government" for self-regulation, then you are misinformed about the US Constitution.

It is the supreme law of the land, which means that no other law can alter its provisions.
The Constitution first three articles created three co-equal branches of government: the legislative (Congress), executive (headed by the President), and judicial (Supreme Court and lower federal courts).

U.S. Constitution and Amendments - Leading Lawyers

 

[billvon]

Money doesn't disappear. Its a form of never-ending trade.

So if someone stole money from you, you would not be upset, because it never disappears?

We were discussing the "truth" of rape which I find no allegations convincing enough to remember.

So you discount the word of his wife. And all the other people who accused him of sexual assault. You assume they are _all_ lying? Because they are women, or because they have accused someone you worship?

The ideology of rebuplic on the other hand has a great history of convicting rapists and every member of the democratic party is an elected member of the republic.

Yep. It also has a great history of convicting criminals and thugs in government. It recently convicted a good number of criminals and thugs from Trump's inner circle.

By that fact itself and many others you sir are a misinformed liar . . .

And you, sir, support a man who has just topped 10,000 lies. I am glad you think I am a liar; it means I am doing something right.

How does good and evil play into your ideology of socialism?

It's not my ideology.

How do you reconcile your claim that you defend women against assault while you support a man who has made a career out of assaulting women? Do you just not think about it very much?

 

[billvon]

You forgot parks. And no slavery isn't. I'm just against any further advancement of socialist ideas which demote freedom of the people's money as a politicians personal bank account.

So you oppose the US military, the national parks, roads, the CDC and air traffic control? In that case I certainly hope you have the courage of your convictions and refuse to support or use any of those socialist services.

 

[Write4U]

So you oppose the US military, the national parks, roads, the CDC and air traffic control? In that case I certainly hope you have the courage of your convictions and refuse to support or use any of those socialist services.

Back to dirt roads.

 

[billvon]

Back to dirt roads.

Not public dirt roads; that's wallet-grabbing, evil socialism! He can buy any roads he wants to drive on like a good capitalist.

 

[wegs]

There's nothing inherently wrong with capitalism or socialism, in their purest forms. Either can become something they weren't ever intended to be, depending on who is in power.

 

[billvon]

There's nothing inherently wrong with capitalism or socialism, in their purest forms. Either can become something they weren't ever intended to be, depending on who is in power.

I'd add that the reason that capitalism (and socialism, and communism, and pretty much any -ism) works in the US is that we don't take anything in its pure form. Most of our consumer economy is capitalist, but some areas (medical care, public utilities, air traffic) are heavily regulated (i.e. somewhat socialist.) Our military is primarily socialist, but we also use a capitalist model to supply them. Our parks are largely communistic, but we still charge admission and have paid reservation systems.

Any attempt to maintain a "pure" system invariably devolves to abuses, because no one system is workable for all people, groups and situations.

 

[Beaconator]

So you oppose the US military, the national parks, roads, the CDC and air traffic control? In that case I certainly hope you have the courage of your convictions and refuse to support or use any of those socialist services.

I just don't want my house ran like the military.