The people who write the storyline for Stargate are dumb

trgedz2 said:
I came across this thread, hste to bump it but something is really bugging me. A user named "String" says that he doesn't like the fact that ancient is barely spoken. Remember, the ancient language is over ten thousand years old, those who knew it are dead or ascended. Second off, according to stargate lore, all the people in milkyway/Pegasus galaxy are supposedly from earth, which they spoke english at the time the ancients first left to the pegasus galaxy cause of a plauge, also time isn't frozen, there is minimal damage, but the shields are depleted. One hit from an ori ship could decintigrate the oddessy, time is slown down in the ship, but not outside. The sheild can not recharge
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Welcome to the forum.
I guess my opinion is who the hell cares. It is a television show that has been off the air for God knows how long and it based on fictional propositions that are nonsense. Just sit back and enjoy the show, anytime you closely inspect a science fiction television show too closely you will see it is built on a multitude of absurd assumptions.
 
They always make the same error when writing science-fiction shows. They write to the lowest common denominator.
They assume the audience won't know or care about the scicnce, yet it's the science buffs that watch it.
Of course, they're trying to case as wide a net as possible, or the show will tank...


Reminds me of the errors in Orville.

"Hey, we've created a time accelerating field! A hundred years can pass inside the field for every one second outside the field!"
Okay, cool.
"Oh no, we're being attacked! Quick, put this acorn in the field then send it over to the other ship!"
Poof! : hundred foot tall, century-old oak tree appears out of nowhere and hulls the bad guys :
"Yay!"

Wait. What was that acorn doing for a hundred years in there?
 
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James R said:
Err... growing into a hundred-foot tall, century-old oak tree?
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On what?? Where did the 10 tons of nutrients come from?

(The field was only a foot or two in diameter, and it sat on a pristine lab bench. They placed an acorn in it.)
 
DaveC426913 said:
On what?? Where did the 10 tons of nutrients come from?

(The field was only a foot or two in diameter, and it sat on a pristine lab bench. They placed an acorn in it.)
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Oh, I see.

I guess if you're willing to suspend your disbelief about the time field thingy, it maybe shouldn't be a huge leap to forget about the need for nutrients and water.
 
James R said:
Oh, I see.
I guess if you're willing to suspend your disbelief about the time field thingy, it maybe shouldn't be a huge leap to forget about the need for nutrients and water.
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Those are qualitatively different.

By coinky-dink I'm in the middle of discussion on another board about assumptions in sci-fi shows.

I'm calling out the difference between Suspension of Disbelief and Suspension of Reason.

It's OK to lie in sci-fi - but you must state the lie explicitly, and that lie has boundaries - once you make that lie, you must be self-consistent.

"We have a machine that accelerates time inside a bubble".
(Given sufficiently-advanced technology, sure. time accelerates within the bubble.)

"A tree grew from an acorn inside that bubble with no visible resources or even implied resources".
(No. There is nothing in the lie or in the fiction at all that suggests this is anything more than a grade school kid's poor conception about acorn+time=giant-oak. The 100-foot oak was quite literally pulled out of thin air.)

I guess that's the diff between sci-fi and fantasy.
 
w1z4rd said:
Well mostly...

Let me give you an example.. I am busy watching the first episode of season five of Stargate Atlantis.

The situation:

Men trapped down on the planet they need to be rescued. There is a Wraith ship in orbit trying to also get at the men.

There is a friendly that is prisoner on the wraith ship (So they cant destroy it)


The Dedalus arrives (and its like 50 times more potent than the wraith ship). Wraith ship checks this shit out , goes "no ways", and tries to buzz out. Dedulus hits the wraith ship once to disable its hyper drives.

Wraith ship cant run away so shoots all the time at the Dedalus. These basically bounce of our super strong shields with little effect.

Now they need to urgently beam up the people from the planet.. but apparently now the shields have to be dropped to beam. So they drop their shields, rescue the people, but take massive amounts of damage from the wraith ship.

Clearly the retarded monkey who is "captain" of that ship doesnt have the intelligence to shoot out the weapons of the wraith ship before doing this.

So he puts his ship, and its entire crew at risk... by not thinking of that.

Surely thats super retarded? Its not a good story line, its not good commanding, its not good anything.

</end rant about gay screen writers in Canada>
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I come back to this post over a decade later, I really regret that I got so emotive over a storyline. I also regret the choice of wording.
 
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