spidergoat
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This is like asking what's the largest number, you could always add one.
If the event must occur if given enough time it isn't exactly improbable, is it ?
What is the most improbable event that you can imagine? Something so unlikely to happen that the odds are a multitude of multitude of billions to 1?
I think I have the answer and its truly massive!
Why not?
It's not impossible, but it can be improbable.
Hmmm. I think semantics plays a role here.You said that it must occur. Then it is not improbable, rather it is inevitable.
My sister turns into a giant fruit bat and then builds a castle out of marshmellow. Then Barack Obama comes to visit and eats the whole thing, while an orchestra plays through the entire score of Wagner's Ring cycle. Then the Earth explodes and everybody dies except me because I happen to be rescued at the last minute by a green pixie named Horace.
Bugger. I was going to suggest us figuring out the meaning of the universe only to have it disappear instantly and be replaced by something even more unfathomable.
But I've got to hand it to you I'm afraid.
biological evolution of humans.
you can add to it evolution of other universal systems from a big bang by simply saying "god not existing", but this isn't the religion suforum
so i'd go with the evolutionary explanation of homo sapiens, is the most improbable.
Hmm perhaps. I didn't get the impression that the OP meant it in that way though.Hmmm. I think semantics plays a role here.
Consider this: Given unlimited shuffles, a particular permutation of a deck of cards must eventually occur. But it is extremely improbable for any given shuffle. So, is the event that a particular permutation occurs a certainty, or very improbable?
In the context of this thread, I think we're talking about discrete events that might happen at any time, and that an improbable event means an event that is unlikely to occur in some human-scale timeframe (eg in a given year).
So although all events will occur given unlimited time, probable events will occur much more frequenty than improbable events.
Throw a coin so that it randomly lands somewhere on a meter stick. What are the odds that the exact center of the coin landed where it did? The odds would appear to be 1 over the number of real numbers between 0 and 100. Since there are infinitely many real numbers between 0 and 100, it would seem that the odds of the coin landing in that precise spot were zero. And yet there it is...
Sure I could. I just couldn't know anything about the velocity of the coin (but the velocity wouldn't matter to me).Well, you can't measure where the 'exact' center of the coin...
Surely you didn't mean that. That contradicts the original post. Why not just say the probability is small, but non-zero?Another rule, the event must also occur if given enough time.
The probability that the coin did land exactly where it did land is exactly one. That probability that it will once again land exactly where it did is exactly zero. Neither of these is constitutes "something so unlikely to happen that the odds are a multitude of multitude of billions to 1?"Throw a coin so that it randomly lands somewhere on a meter stick. What are the odds that the exact center of the coin landed where it did? The odds would appear to be 1 over the number of real numbers between 0 and 100. Since there are infinitely many real numbers between 0 and 100, it would seem that the odds of the coin landing in that precise spot were zero. And yet there it is...
That isn't that unlikely, even though it seems like it right now. Humanity will eventually die, and even if it doesn't, silly things like internet forums will.When threads like this stop occurring..
But prior to my throw, what were the odds of the coin landing at that particular point rather than any of the other possible points along my meter stick? Were the odds exactly zero for every possible landing point? It seems to me that they were. And yet the odds of the coin landing somewhere is one (since it's stated as a premise of the problem). It seems to me that when I throw the coin it is sure to land somewhere, and there are infinitely many places it could land, but for each of the potential landing points the odds of it landing there is zero.The probability that the coin did land exactly where it did land is exactly one. That probability that it will once again land exactly where it did is exactly zero.
Surely the most improbable possibility is all the possible improbable events that could ever happen, happening at the exact same time.
Sure I could. I just couldn't know anything about the velocity of the coin (but the velocity wouldn't matter to me).
Yes that happened and surely is improbable to end up with the current form of man, but more improbable is that man would have named this highly evolved species: "Homo Idiotica."... i'd go with the evolutionary explanation of homo sapiens, is the most improbable.