The mind's eye

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James R said:
Where are you in your dreams? Do you dream from a first-person point of view (like looking out of your eyes as usual), or do you see yourself
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As a participant - last night dream I am holding down a person of interest when I notice something else which required attention. Calling out, assistance arrived, and we both held down the POI while I explained what I had seen and what Hello needed

Funny we were now in the back seat of a car holding the head of the POI under a stack of rubbish

The person who had come to help - I considered him a co-worker - was saying to the POI "You will find a button under the rubbish, when you are willing to stop struggling press the button 3 times"

Later we found out that car had not been fitted with the button

Lots more but enough for now I need coffee

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I am at the center of my dreams. My person is the actor, always. There is little difference between my conscious life, and my dream life. That's a problem for me, because I have so many false memories in my conscious life, and I have to say they (the false memories) are often the result of the things I've seen on TV, or read that I in turn dream about or fantasize about in daydreams. When I watch an event I might get totally into it, and (usually much) later think that I was actually part it, while the truth is it was a movie or a story in a book. The more I assimilate and empathize with the idea the stronger the memory. It's sometimes difficult for me to separate the real from the imagined. I suppose aging has something to do with it. The fewer experiences one has (or the younger one is) the easier it is to say with confidence which memories are real, and which are imagined. The upside is storytelling. It's easy for me to imagine and write or tell a story, write a lyric, or even do research as a result of a large collection of information.
 
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I think, as others have pointed out, that the wording of this scenario has a lot to do with the responses that you are getting (obviously) and I don't think the responses tell you as much as you (may be) reading into them.

If you tell me that I am at the beach then that's option A. If you just said imagine a beach it would be option D. I don't usually insert myself into a scene that I'm imagining. It's definitely not option B, I don't view myself from a distance.
 
James R said:
I'm interested in member responses to the above poll. Here's what you need to do:

Imagine you are at the beach. Picture in your mind's eye the sand, the beach towels on the sand, the water, the sunshine, the umbrellas. Imagine boats out on the water in the distance. Imagine two people walking hand-in-hand along the shoreline, splashing their bare feet in the water.

My question to you is this: where are you in this scene? That is, how do you picture yourself in the scene? Do you see it (A) like you normally view the world, looking out of your own eyes; or (B) like watching yourself, as if from a distance or from above; or (C) some other way (explain in the thread); or it is (D) you can't really picture yourself there at all (you only picture the other people and things and you're kind of disembodied); or (E) you can't conjure up the scene at all as a mental image.

Please answer the poll before you read further down the thread. There are no right or wrong answers, and I'd prefer it if responses were not biased by what appears below.

Once we have a few responses, I'll comment further.
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I answered (C). My 'minds eye' is a combination of both (A) amd (B) which seems to flash back and forth depending on the scene and if I'm part of it or not. I'll see the people and things I'm interacting with as if seeing through my own eyes and then see me interacting with them, often from above.
 
D.
i can picture myself from where i was while standing on the beach, or any other position i think of(depending on quality of memory & recal for specific things). then move it around in a 3d sense to get an idea of how to build the picture up to form what is mentioned.
i can swap out people and things as required and then associate different emotional responses to those changes if required.
i can also change what i picture subject to my association to what i might be percieving and what bias i may have.
all depending on how i feel at the time.
 
From what I recall from my dream last night, it was all first person. I know what I look like anyway.

I see you watch me
You are dressed flamboyantly
Makes me feel eerie

Now, if I was imagining I was someone else...





 
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Anil Seth explained the mind's eye with just a few words as the creative organ which produces a fleeting immersive experience.

But in addition goes beyond and explores how the mind actually processes external information. The mind has no eye at all, it is a translator of electrochemical signals and then makes a best guess of what is "out there".

The mind forms a picture and then uses the eyes to confirm what it believes the information is telling it.
IOW. we create our subjective reality as much from the "inside out" as from the "outside in".
https://www.ted.com/talks/anil_seth_how_your_brain_hallucinates_your_conscious_reality
 
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I visualized the objects as you described them, more like looking at pictures. Looking through my eyes, the center focus is detailed, whereas everything outside that focal point is blurry. In my mind's eye, the whole image is in focus, like when you hold a photo in front of you.
 
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