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Hello people.

I was wondering if the drugs administered to the human body are active in themselves or if they stimulate parts of the brain to release natural drugs?

Eating large amounts of chocolate is the same as being in love (so scientists say) but how is this possible? Does the chocolate itself make you feel love, or does it simply arouse the brain into producing chemicals allowing us to feel love?
 
Counter said:
Hello people.

I was wondering if the drugs administered to the human body are active in themselves or if they stimulate parts of the brain to release natural drugs?

Eating large amounts of chocolate is the same as being in love (so scientists say) but how is this possible? Does the chocolate itself make you feel love, or does it simply arouse the brain into producing chemicals allowing us to feel love?
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Not in my case , I love chocolate but it stimulate as a laxative.
 
Counter said:
Hello people.

I was wondering if the drugs administered to the human body are active in themselves or if they stimulate parts of the brain to release natural drugs?
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It depends on the drug.

Eating large amounts of chocolate is the same as being in love (so scientists say) but how is this possible?
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It is not possible and scientist do not say that.

Does the chocolate itself make you feel love, or does it simply arouse the brain into producing chemicals allowing us to feel love?
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No, just no.
 
Counter said:
Hello people.

I was wondering if the drugs administered to the human body are active in themselves or if they stimulate parts of the brain to release natural drugs?

Eating large amounts of chocolate is the same as being in love (so scientists say) but how is this possible? Does the chocolate itself make you feel love, or does it simply arouse the brain into producing chemicals allowing us to feel love?
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Tray Serotonin, and oxytocin.
 
Read up a little on endorphins - the body's "feel good" hormones, and the seat of the feeling of well-being.

Things that make us feel good, like chocolate and love, tend to do so by indirectly increasing our endorphins.
 
Serontonin and dopamine are the two love chemicals you're referring to. And there are drugs that can both administer these chemicals externally or stimulate your body to "dump" or produce them. 5-htp is one such drug. You can also feel these chemicals in other ways, such as gambling - that's why it's addictive.
 
Counter said:
Hello people.

I was wondering if the drugs administered to the human body are active in themselves or if they stimulate parts of the brain to release natural drugs?

Eating large amounts of chocolate is the same as being in love (so scientists say) but how is this possible? Does the chocolate itself make you feel love, or does it simply arouse the brain into producing chemicals allowing us to feel love?
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When people say they love chocolate, they tend to be relying on a different usage than what they may bandy about in marriage ceremonies and the like (even though the divorce rate amongst chocolate lovers and the object of their affections may not be so widespread)
 
Counter said:
Hello people.

I was wondering if the drugs administered to the human body are active in themselves or if they stimulate parts of the brain to release natural drugs?

Eating large amounts of chocolate is the same as being in love (so scientists say) but how is this possible? Does the chocolate itself make you feel love, or does it simply arouse the brain into producing chemicals allowing us to feel love?
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Try E.
 
Musika said:
When people say they love chocolate, they tend to be relying on a different usage than what they may bandy about in marriage ceremonies and the like (even though the divorce rate amongst chocolate lovers and the object of their affections may not be so widespread)
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It's the cocoa contained in chocolate, which is a powerful chemical.
Just like the caffeine in coffee, the cocoa in chocolate is a chemical powerhouse, rich in active compounds that are quickly absorbed, affecting everything from our energy levels to mood. “Nutritionally, cocoa in chocolate contains many biologically active substances that have positive effects on human health, including flavonoids, theobromine and magnesium,” says Dr Owen Bain, founder of Gourmet Focus food consultancy.
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/features/the-science-of-what-chocolate-does-to-your-body/

And good mood and high energy leads to a parsimonious mental and physical experience and is a substitute for the experience of having sex.
 
Musika said:
Yet you can't quantify an element of chocolate consumption to save a marriage.
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Can you quantify an element of anything that can save a marriage, when there is no parsimony between the partners?

For that matter, can you name anything that functions without breaking apart when in a non-parsimonious relationship? This already happens at the elementary scales.
The term "a radioactive relationship" is actually a profound philosophical metaphor.
 
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Write4U said:
Can you quantify an element of anything that can save a marriage, when there is no parsimony between the partners?

For that matter, can you name anything that functions without breaking apart when in a non-parsimonious relationship? This already happens at the elementary scales.
The term "a radioactive relationship" is actually a profound philosophical metaphor.
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If love is what makes or breaks a relationship and if you have, at least in one's mind, isolated the chemical catalyst for it, then yes ... should be an easy q to answer.
 
Musika said:
If love is what makes or breaks a relationship and if you have, at least in one's mind, isolated the chemical catalyst for it, then yes ... should be an easy q to answer.
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Love is such a vague word and is actually a result of compatibility or parsimony. This needs not necessarily be purely chemical, but might also depend on the brain configuration which processes information.

But I believe the concept of empathy is an indication of similarities in the processing of information. The ability to place yourself in another's reality. And when you can share reality from the same perspective, how can you not love that person or at least be in a parsimonious relationship?
 
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Musika said:
If love is what makes or breaks a relationship and if you have, at least in one's mind, isolated the chemical catalyst for it, then yes ... should be an easy q to answer.
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Write4U said:
Love is such a vague word and is actually a result of compatibility or parsimony. This needs not necessarily be purely chemical, but might also depend on the brain configuration which processes information.

But I believe the concept of empathy is an indication of similarities in the processing of information. The ability to place yourself in another's reality. And when you can share reality from the same perspective, how can you not love that person or at least be in a parsimonious relationship?
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it does seem that a large amount of issues in such relationships tend to stumble at the point of expressing the feelings that feel at odds.
reactions get layered on top of reactive emotions...
then what is not being said is the primary or symptomatic problem that becomes the unspoken barrier that can never be resolved.

"falling out of love" could be likened to going through withdrawal...
or
refusal to address emotional issues that have been allowed to fester in between the peoples communication.
functionality, however has been the primary driver.
conventional marriage is nothing more than a business relationship devised to allow the purchase of a house & gain tax benifits for having children.
the division of labour in the relationship is done so for profit.

modern "marriage" is vastly different.
modern people continue to evolve.
failure to evolve WITH the partner results in the couple becoming non compatible on an interpersonal level.

millenials grandparents were considered socially unacceptable and quite out of the ordinary to have their spouse as thier best friend.
 
RainbowSingularity said:
then what is not being said is the primary or symptomatic problem that becomes the unspoken barrier that can never be resolved.
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I agree.
Or even what is being said is incomprehensible to the partner, it presents a problem. The realities of each individual's "best guess" is of primary importance.
As Seth says; "When people's best guesses of our input information agree, we call that reality".

In simpler organisms, this present not much of a problem, but with human ability for abstract thought, it becomes more complicated at the meta-physical level, such as religious beliefs.

That such abstract disagreement is causal to religious wars is incomprehensible to me.....:?
 
Write4U said:
That such abstract disagreement is causal to religious wars is incomprehensible to me.....:?
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Put very eloquently by a Australian comedian if I recall - can't remember name - "my invisible friend can piss higher than your invisible friend"

:)
 
Write4U said:
it becomes more complicated at the meta-physical level,
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... emotional creatures
emotional personality
emotional wellbeing
emotional support
emotionally honest

often there is a emotional dialogue that is unspoken yet reacted to emotionally as if there is 4 different people having 1 relationship, while 2 relationships are happening.
 
RainbowSingularity said:
... emotional creatures
emotional personality
emotional wellbeing
emotional support
emotionally honest

often there is a emotional dialogue that is unspoken yet reacted to emotionally as if there is 4 different people having 1 relationship, while 2 relationships are happening.
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I keep coming back to Anil Seth who touched on the fragility of the human psyche. When our "best guesses" of external or internal perceptions (introspection) are not in agreement with other's expectations, or even your own, the brain becomes confused and that is very disconcerting !
https://www.ted.com/talks/anil_seth_how_your_brain_hallucinates_your_conscious_reality
Disconcerting;
1. disturbing to one's composure or self-possession; upsetting, discomfiting.
2. confusing, usually in the face of something totally unexpected; perplexing.
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http://www.dictionary.com/browse/disconcerting
(being in) Concert;
More words related to in concert
accordant, agreeing, conforming, congruous, harmonious, ensemble all at once, altogether, as a body, as a group, as a whole, as one, at once, en masse, in concert, harmonious, accordant, adapted, amicable, balanced, compatible, concordant, congenial, congruous, consonant, coordinated, cordial, dulcet, euphonious, harmonic, harmonizing, in accord, in chorus, in concert, in harmony, in step, in tune, in unison, like, matching, mellifluous, melodic, melodious, mix, musical, of one mind, on same wavelength, peaceful, rhythmical, silvery, similar, simpatico, sonorous, suitable, sweet-sounding, symmetrical,
sympathetic, symphonic, symphonious, tuneful
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http://www.dictionary.com/browse/disconcerting

Just looking at the definition and synonyms, one can readily see that our own psyche is very much dependend on approval or agreement by others. This also touches on the Roger Antonsen clip, where he urges everyone to try and see things from several different perspectives in order to gain greater understanding.
https://www.ted.com/talks/roger_ant...n_secret_to_understanding_the_world#t-1012391
 
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Write4U said:
Love is such a vague word and is actually a result of compatibility or parsimony. This needs not necessarily be purely chemical, but might also depend on the brain configuration which processes information.

But I believe the concept of empathy is an indication of similarities in the processing of information. The ability to place yourself in another's reality. And when you can share reality from the same perspective, how can you not love that person or at least be in a parsimonious relationship?
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Then, at the very least, there is something distinctly non-parsimonious with your attempt to tie in love with dopamine.
 
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