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"'The Grid' Could Soon Make the Internet Obsolete"
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Well, it wouldn't really make the internet obsolete. The "internet" is still "the internet" regardless of the physical layer.
superstring01
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Actually, um, do you mean the web? Just curious. Because the grid could, theoretically sub-plant the internet. The web (world wide web) is merely computers that are commercially linked trough the routers on the internet. The web would work... hell, it would work BETTER, on the grid. I think the difference is that the grid is a totally different series of routers and cabling that has utilized the latest technologies only (i.e. fiber optics, new more efficient routers that use a more efficient router protocol).
Just a thought.
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The internet had already got data centre's that act like hubs for high speed data transfers, of course the main problem with the net is ISP's that split the speeds down for their users.
Basically the average student won't gain access to these high speeds, it's meant for the Institutes that share vast amounts of data (Physics, Medical, Computing projects) The UK government wouldn't fit the bill for every student to gain their own personal access to such a high speed network because of cost, which means the consumer will likely gain such speeds in the future depending on what they are prepared to pay.
Basically the average student won't gain access to these high speeds, it's meant for the Institutes that share vast amounts of data (Physics, Medical, Computing projects) The UK government wouldn't fit the bill for every student to gain their own personal access to such a high speed network because of cost, which means the consumer will likely gain such speeds in the future depending on what they are prepared to pay.
This is awesome!
superstring01
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Agreed. But, from what I'm reading, the way the grid is designed and regulated, it has to utilize only fibre optics. In the next 25 years, I think we'll begin to see more dispersion of fibre optics to localities (businesses will demand it). Once consumers begin using the web for "television-like" viewing along with everything else, I believe that this technology will proliferate more.
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superstring01 im not so sure
One of the policies at the last election was a "fiber to the node" and people were asking why not fiber to my house. The answer was that its simply to expencive to recable a country the size of Australia with fiber optic cable to ever house.
MAYBE cable internet will keep increasing (if they ever lay any more of those bloody cables I WANT CABLE DAMIT) but i doubt we will see the copper network replaced in a hurry
One of the policies at the last election was a "fiber to the node" and people were asking why not fiber to my house. The answer was that its simply to expencive to recable a country the size of Australia with fiber optic cable to ever house.
MAYBE cable internet will keep increasing (if they ever lay any more of those bloody cables I WANT CABLE DAMIT) but i doubt we will see the copper network replaced in a hurry
superstring01
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Fibre optics are, indeed, WAY too expensive... right now. Thus, I said in 25 years or so, it'll propagate closer to home. This fact is already coming true. About a decade ago one could only find fibre optics in pan oceanic or continental trunks. During the internet boom, thousands of miles of fibre optics were laid within nations and between cities. Now you have fibre optics being run from community to community. Although traffic has grown exponentially, so has capacity. With this proliferation has occurred a dramatic drop in the cost of fibre optics. Once the domain of Europe, Japan and the USA, now there fibre optics are being produced for cheap in places like Korea, China and Brazil.
It's not cheap enough right now to run to my house**, but it's getting there.
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**While living in Phoenix, the community of Ahwatukee Foothills boasted that it had f.o. connections directly to the houses built there. That was pretty damned cool.
Um, I'm pretty sure Verizon is offering internet service via a fiber optic link right to my house. So far I've stuck with my cable internet access because I don't want to change my email address (it's printed on all my forms).
Yeah, I've seen adverts offering fibre services to the door too, so it's not prohibitively expensive at all.
I doubt 'the grid' will change anything noticeably, we aren't going to have a switch over day, just a slow and steady replacement of technology, growing accustomed to the improvements as they happen.
I doubt 'the grid' will change anything noticeably, we aren't going to have a switch over day, just a slow and steady replacement of technology, growing accustomed to the improvements as they happen.
Challenger78
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CERN invented the internet? \
THE TEXTBOOK LIED TO ME.
It also said that Spam (computer term) came from monty python. I think that might be true though.
THE TEXTBOOK LIED TO ME.
It also said that Spam (computer term) came from monty python. I think that might be true though.
DARPA invented 'The Internet', CERN invented the web server/browser, and while it captured the imagination of the masses, it wasn't much of a stretch from gopher, wais, and uucp systems that prceded it, it just made stuff a little easier.
Probably, geek humour and all that.
Challenger78
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figures.
Challenger78
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Hey. wait for us to get beyond ADSL 2 first. We aussies need the internet too
That's the way it is now and will be into the future. I don't think you'll ever see prices come down if you want faster speeds, ever. True, the speeds will increase but the top end speeds will increase much higher as well.
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