The Devil and Jesus.

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  1. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    I really do not know the sources
     
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  3. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    Oh well, I can probably find it if I care enough.
    Here we go - just the wiki outline, not the hateful Catholic invective
    That was the biggie: first, they're calling the pope and all his wealthy, powerful cardinals 'bad christians" - which they were and are; second, the rejection of suffering as a road to salvation on which HRC thrives. Even worse:
    Not Jesus, but Jehovah is identified with the devil.
    And to top it off, they eschewed war and violence.
    Shudder!
     
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  5. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Do we have an issue with thousands of refugees crossing the Canadian border? If intruders tend to come through your backdoor, would you secure that door?
     
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  7. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Such as?

    More like, what promises hasn't he kept'

    In the making. Were you expecting a reversal of past policies within a short 2-1/2 years? It took decades to export our industries overseas. The guy is trying, but he's not Jesus Christ.

    Ask those working. Unemployment is at an all-time low.

    Ask your Democratic Congress.

    Possibly in the process. I don't believe even Batman could save Gotham City.

    Ask your Democratic Congress.


    The president doesn't introduce bills. That's the job of congress, but they seem preoccupied with bringing down the president.


    And is he wrong?

    No. Neither you nor I are responsible. If we gave a shit we would encourage those people to seek power within their own communities. As it stands now, we can't take care of our own, let alone the world. As far as politics are concerned, refugees are potential future votes for the Democratic party, and potential low wage workers for the Republican Party. It's a win/win for the politicians, which is why nothing has been done about illegal immigration for years. Now that someone is actually threatening to take action, the Democrats are pro-immigration. The Republicans can pretend to care, but as long as the Democrats are willing to fight for them, what does it matter?

    But there will always be jobs at McDonald's, hotel rooms to be cleaned, and produce to be harvested. And the wages will continue to stay low because what competition will there ever be when you can freely import third world labor? I suppose it's a step up for the immigrants, even though they are being exploited by both sides of the political coin.[/quote]
     
  8. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    So, you make excuses and repeat lies, rather than find out the facts.
    The only part of this question that's on topic is how Trump embodies the demonic spirit of America.
    Overfed, self-indulgent, conceited, dishonest, impulsive, incompetent, greedy, ignorant, intolerant, callous and vindictive.

    Your 'political coin' has two faces that are sometimes different from each other, sometimes very alike - but, like all currency, it has no brain or soul. There is no scope in such governance for the angelic aspect of a nation to express itself; there is barely room for the human.
     
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  9. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Well, they're refugees from the US, coming to Canada.
    We have always welcomed fugitives from the US - United Empire Loyalists, runaway slaves, Vietnam War resistors, etc.
     
  10. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    ... but wish you could keep your gun-runners and white supremacist agitators at home!
     
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  11. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    So, our economy sucks and people should stop having kids?
     
  12. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    No we have people living and dying in the streets. Around 1,000,000 by last estimate.
     
  13. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Bob, they anticipate over a million coming over the southern border...this year.
     
  14. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Do you think a wall will keep them out?
     
  15. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    No, I don't think it will keep everyone out. They will dig tunnels under or hang glide over the wall.
     
  16. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    But you can afford to send $220,000,000 drones to spy on countries you've been deliberately pissing off.
    And stupid, ineffective walls, when everyone knows the really expensive crime comes in through legal ports of entry.
     
  17. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    "They" can't count. "They" tot up their losses in the plus column so they can announce how well the economy is doing.
    And they have no idea of the displacements and migrations that will be taking place in the next few years, nor have they any plan to deal with even a fraction of the upheaval. "They" have stripped the EPA and FEMA of their power to help.

    All the demons are off the leash, baby!
     
  18. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    And you want to spend money on a wall instead.
     
  19. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    Some of 'them' want to spend it on a whole new, even bigger quagmire of a war than the three (??) money-sumps* they've been losing for the last two decades.

    *You know, the ones Trump promised to end, only he couldn't. And apparently it's the Democratic Congress we need to ask [Bowser #44] for an explanation of why Trump not only fails to keep any promises but multiplies the problems he promised to fix.**
    That makes sense: Trump supporters don't deal in reason.

    ** But, never mind, he's making all the same promises again. Or maybe one of the incompetent aides just forgot to change the soundtrack.
     
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  20. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    It's an investment.
     
  21. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Iran, Afghanistan...? Perhaps the border should be monitored instead. Agreed?
    I've been told that our heroine and meth up north comes from the southern border.
     
  22. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    "Monitored" is a nice enough word. It doesn't sound like putting children in cages and letting them starve.
    This is not an either/or proposition, the ********s want to do both, along with a number of other ########## things.

    You've been told and sold a lot of ****. Try not to swallow.
     
  23. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    The devil is a single entity.
     

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