Everything we've won goes away in the end
A couple of quick notes:
When you take another human beings life(intentionally without cause) you loose all of your rights. You are nothing more than a blood thirsty beast.
Wrong. These are the United States of America. Read your Constitution.
Don't like it? There's always China.
Who is the judge of cause? Certainly we might put our heads together and say that this or that man most definitely was not instructed by God to kill people, and that he's hearing dangerous voices. After all, we love killing the mentally ill in this country. But the fact remains that we don't know. Every killer has cause.
Furthermore, what constitutes intent? What about, say, an oil pipeline intentionally ill-maintained, operated with knowledge of potentially lethal faults in order to increase profits. One day the pipeline explodes and the fireball rolls over a mile up the river, consuming children out for a swim. Oh, I take it you didn't mean to kill anyone, sir.
What about the instant death penalty if you kill a police officer? I bring this up now because our police forces are operating with less and less confidence from the people. After what has taken place in Los Angeles, and with the police shooting people to death for
not carrying drugs ... well? One of these days John Public's gonna draw quicker and shoot straighter than John Law. Let's harden it up for a moment:
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http://www.thegully.com/essays/america/brutocops/000227notguilty.html ... Just so I have it clear ... what was the cause for 41 rounds?
They had the wrong guy! "Fear" is not justification for a shooting. Not like this. If I shot a cop for passing his hand near his belt, would I be able to justify myself that I was afraid?
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http://www.counterpunch.org/nypd.html Need it any more clear cut? You'll note the name
Patrick Dorismond
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http://www.drcnet.org/wol/130.html#dorismon Okay ... you don't get away with this one--Dorismond never saw the badge.
Why aren't these killers on death row? Perhaps because capital punishment is arbitrary.
The death penalty should be reserved for only the worst offenders(i.e. Mcvaeh). The ideal of the People being against the death penalty is absurd to me.
Well, you're not really teaching that killing is wrong. As
[f] noted, Homicide.
People who alrweady comit these crimes are hardly ever put to justice. One thing that is keeping this sort of crime down is the death penalty.
Demonstrate that. All statistical trends show that capital punishment has no effect on the violent crime rate.
Like I said before its not inhumane to execute a rightfully deserving person. Its not a matter of revenge its a matter of justice.
Define
justice. What is that? Steal a cookie, get sent to your room. Break the cookie jar, get beaten senseless with a strap?
Their has to be a punsihment for the crime.
Says who? Says we? Fine. Ought we not put a little more effort into getting it right? In case you hadn't noticed, states are declaring moratoria on executions until they figure out what went wrong with the evidentiary chain.
Every action has a opposite and equal reaction.
Umm ... that's nature. Look, we
choose to react that way. The blind nature of the physical Universe does not apply to human will, or so society would tell it. On the other hand, if you're claiming that it does, should we not, then, figure out what the natural course is, instead of taking an eye for an eye because it makes us feel better?
Anyone who is crazy enough to blow up 200 people or cut their heads off are definetly risks to others.
Just so we all have it clear, I won't argue with this.
It sickens me what people already get away with now when we still have the death penalty(i.e.= The man who killed to 7 people in Ohio (i think) it was somewhere in the US. They had found a knife in his trailer in 1996 and that was a strict violation of porol(sp?) they didnt do anything to him. NOw 7 people are dead. This could have been prevented. If are justice system would just work like its supposed to instead of everything having to be satisfying to liberals.
Yeah, we're really satisfying liberals when we insist that it's a violation of people's rights to not sell guns to the psychotic. Everything? What an irresponsible statement.
Maybe if we didn't advocate such a primal and violent culture, we could educate the larger part of the dumb, arbitrary murders out of society and deal with those more, ah ... necessary. An eye for a bloody eye leaves
everybody blind.
To my line of thinking, we commonly put our folks oversees in the military in tents. Why should we coddle those in prision? If it's good enough for those serving our country it should be good enough for prisoners. And if they are destructive and want to burn the place down that's fine. Let them do without.
This is something that worries me about Americans.
1) The military generally
volunteers to go sleep in tents. For the record, I oppose conscription wholeheartedly. You cannot force me to murder anyone for anything. But the fact remains that the soldiers
choose the tents in the swamp.
2) I didn't realize that living up to our Constitutional promises was coddling. Change the Constitution. But be careful how you do; if you undo two of those first ten amendments, it will become possible to put you to death for having sex in a position other than missionary. If you think that's a little extreme for the argument, too bad. One of the brilliant things about the Constitution is that it's not entirely specific. Sure, the founding fathers couldn't imagine an M-16, but at least we, as a society, get to discuss the merits of the damn things before figuring out what we can and can't do about it. Of course, a lot more would get done if we weren't constantly ducking, but that's part of the cost of being an American. So, also, are the rights of the accused, and the rights of the guilty. They are human beings still, and protected by the Supreme Law of the Land.
I have a couple of questions:
Does anybody realize why there was a revolution here? Does anyone care anymore why we shook off the Crown?
Didn't think so.
Everything I see here supporting the Death Penalty also makes a firm argument that there was never any reason to shed His Majesty in the first place. We've come so far around the circle that people don't even want what they have. I just can't believe Americans would piss it all away just to satisfy their bloodlust.
--Tiassa
