Starting Civilization From Scratch

lixluke said:
If you are not happy with my current plan of massive action to assess the emergency needs of our current population, and have some actual serious suggestions, I suggest your present them. We are all listening.
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I suggest everyone punch a grizzly bear in the face to prove their worthiness to the tribe.
 
I suggest everyone puch themselves repeatedly in the face until they have killed so many brain cells, they vote for Spurious.
 
Announcement from his royal heininess!!

The votes have already been cast on this royal voting machines purchased in Christian America, a country that cannot produce lies and neither can their voting machines!!!

His Royal Godness is please to repeat his announcement that 120% of the population casted a vote to make his Royal Heininess the supreme leader of this divine civilization!

Coolskill is to report to the Royal jumping tower where he will jump off the top floor to prove he loves his King Spuriousmonkey the Great
 
spidergoat said:
I suggest everyone punch a grizzly bear in the face to prove their worthiness to the tribe.
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Why not try presenting actual plans for addressing the needs of 100,000 people?

Either that, or show some flaws in the plans I have presented thus far if you are not happy with them.
 
Here's a flaw, there's a plan. If there is only 100K people, then what are we worried about? Do your own thing, build a hut if you want, start a cult, basically enjoy the fruits of the Earth. Plans are so "old Earth" thinking.
 
Why do people always assume that there has to be one glorified leader to lead them where ever they are suppose to go?

I'm sure it would be possible for people as a whole to make there own decisions on what they would be happy doing, and work out some rotational system should any want to only do one particular job while leaving other necessary jobs unattended.

Perhaps it would be best breaking the number of people down into groups and letting them create smaller camps that can attempt to produce not just what that camp needs but Excess. Excess can then be traded (I'm sure Lixluke would love the Capitalistic feel of a monetary system establishing a fair commitment to the labour pool.)

Trading between camps might seem materialistic but it develops a concept of worth and keeps people from being devoured by the imfamous "Red Dwarf" despair squid.
 
There would be no enemies, no need for agriculture, no need for money or public works, or government at all, it would be paradise. The salmon would come back, there would be orchards and gardens. Civilization was a mistake, it made people work more and enjoy life less. People with children would probably want to build a cabin. Some enterprising people would start working on flint or obsidian tools, maybe find some iron ore, kill deer for meat and skins...
 
The biggest problem will be food. A hundred thousand people can't survive on the nuts and berries they will find within walking distance. It will take a generation to identify, gather and cultivate grains that will support even a fraction of that population. Even if every one of them is a skilled hunter who can find and knap his own flint and make his own spear, there aren't enough game animals within walking distance to feed 100,000 people.

The problem needs to be scaled back or it has no solution. People will die of starvation until there is a more manageable number. If they are truly chosen at random from the earth's current population, the chances of someone knowing how to build hunting weapons from scratch and how to hunt--or how to build traps for smaller animals without metal--are slim. I wonder if anyone reading this forum could do it?

You'd probably be limited to something like twenty people if they had to survive by gathering nuts and berries from the area they can cover on foot.
 
Stryder said:
Why do people always assume that there has to be one glorified leader to lead them where ever they are suppose to go?

I'm sure it would be possible for people as a whole to make there own decisions on what they would be happy doing, and work out some rotational system should any want to only do one particular job while leaving other necessary jobs unattended.

Perhaps it would be best breaking the number of people down into groups and letting them create smaller camps that can attempt to produce not just what that camp needs but Excess. Excess can then be traded (I'm sure Lixluke would love the Capitalistic feel of a monetary system establishing a fair commitment to the labour pool.)

Trading between camps might seem materialistic but it develops a concept of worth and keeps people from being devoured by the imfamous "Red Dwarf" despair squid.
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I like the idea of breaking the population of New Colony down into groups for the reason that in terms.

100,000 people is simply too large a population to address. Best if we divide into 5 major sectors of 20,000 people each. Then each sector then divided into 5 tribes of 4,000 people each.

Each tribe can accomplish the exact same thing for their particular tribe. Each tribe gets an area, and conducts activities among themselves.


Phase 3 was where we left off. So each tribe has a particular area which is divided into parcels for each member of the 4,000 person tribe.

Each tribe has the following areas. This is the first day, so everything is still outdoors. HERE:

Residential area. (Parcels where everybody sleeps.)
Food area. (Area where everybody eats.)
Bathing area.
Bathroom area.
Childcare area.
Tribe center.


Phase 4 is the design of bathroom and bathing area. We need somebody knowledgable to plan a method in which we can use the bathroom and bathe. Does anybody have any good ideas for this?
 
Hey guys, let's simulate what would really happen if cool skill started barking orders. Let's out him on ignore.

Then continue with the thread.
Except that instead of 100,000 people, it's only sciforums members.

THEN we kill cool skill and eat his brains.
 
So basically what we have learned from this thread is that lixluke would like to take our affluent space-age society and convert it into a primitive tribal society.
 
lixluke said:
Phase 4 is the design of bathroom and bathing area. We need somebody knowledgable to plan a method in which we can use the bathroom and bathe. Does anybody have any good ideas for this?
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Bathroom - a hole in the ground and some leaves.

Bathe - a river.
 
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