Star Trek Beyond...wait for the dvd

At least ST: The Wrath of Khan is memorable.
Along with the first movie and V'GER
"From hell's heart, I stab at thee... For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee"
Khan's final words.
An inference to Herman Melville's "Moby Dick" and Captain Ahab.
[Yes, I still have a copy of that book, more then 40 years old. :)]
 
Frankly these latest Star Trek movies are not in the spirit of original Star Trek, they are extremely violent and are not about exploration. =/ Is sad
 
Plus the wide-spread use of CGI means you end up with mickey-mouse stuff like riding a classic motorbike around with gas that solidifies in an instant. Turns it all into a cartoon, with no real sense of peril and little emotional involvement with the characters.
The original films relied as much on the interaction between the characters as the special effects, whereas now, other than the names being the same, it feels too generic, too formulaic, too much action, CGI and ridiculous stories. And for the love of all that is good in sci-if, why do we need to see the Enterprise get destroyed every damn film!! (Or at least it feels that often).

Maybe I'm getting more discerning in my dotage, but I quite like a modicum more thought in my sci-if these days, not just bright colours, loud explosions, and chaos.
It would be great if we could have a new series of Star Trek that was actually more cerebral, more realistic and took things seriously. Where a 5-year tour took its toll on the crew, where things didn't always look pristine. Where the newest star base didn't just pop up with 20-million people and look like a dull sterile vision of an urban "paradise".
Something in the vein of the Battlestar Galactica reboot, but more isolated rather than having a rag-tag fleet of survivors behind you.

Anyhoo - I always watch the ST films and mostly enjoy them for a while, but I'm always hoping that they'll surprise me with how good they are... and always left feeling disappointed.
As someone above said, they're just not memorable any more.
 
I really want to like the reboot. I might even see the next ones that come out.

But they are forgettable. I have a tough time remembering the plots of any of them.


Which one is ST: Beyond anyway? Or is it ST: Darkness, or ST: Ambiguity, or ST: Stuff Happens?
At least ST: The Wrath of Khan is memorable.

Why is the Wrath of Khan memorable ?
 
Hmmm....

So without this " emotional rage " , the ST movie would not otherwise be , " memorable " ? Is that it ?

its emotions that always got me to watch Star Trek, the different faucets of expression of actors. Notice how many emotions there are in old Star Trek series and the Star Trek movie they are showing now.

The emotions that they displayed, I shared while watching, these are:

abandoned

acceptance

adoration

affection

Aggravated

agitated

agressive

alert

amazed

ambitious

amused

anger, anger2

animosity

annoyed

anticipation, anticipation2

anxiousness

appreciative

apprehensive

ardent

aroused

ashamed

astonished

attraction (sexual)

attraction (intellectual)

attraction (spiritual)

awed

betrayed

bewildered

bitter

bliss

blue

boastful

bored

breathless

bubbly

calamitous

calm

camaraderie

cautious

cheerful

cocky

cold

collected

comfortable

compassionate

concerned

confident

confused

contempt

content

courageous

cowardly

crafty

cranky

crazy

cruelty

crummy

crushed

curious

cynic

dark

dejected

delighted

delirious

denial

depression

desire poem



despair

determined

devastated

disappointed

discouraged

disgust

disheartened

dismal

dispirited

distracted

distressed

dopey

down

dreadful

dreary

eager

ecstatic

embarrassed

emotional-detest

empathic

emptiness

enchanted

enigmatic

enlightened

enraged

enthralled

enthusiastic

envy

euphoric

excited

exhausted

expectation

exuberance

fascinated

fear

flabbergasted

fight-or-flight

foolish

frazzled

frustrated

fulfillment

furious

gay

giddy

gleeful

gloomy

goofy

grateful

gratified

greedy

Gray Because a Broken Heart

grief poem

grouchy

grudging

guilty

happyhappy2

hate

heartbroken

homesick

hopeful

hopeless

horrified

hostile

humiliated





humored

hurt

hyper

hysterical

indignation

infatuation

infuriated

inner peace

innocent

insanity

insecure

insecure

inspired poem

interest

intimidated

invidious

irate

irritability

irritated

jaded

jealousy

joy

jubilant

kind

lazy

left out

liberated

lively

loathsome

lonely

longing

love

lovesick

loyal

lust

mad

mean

melancholic

mellow

mercy

merry

mildness

miserable

morbid

mourning

needed

needy

nervous

obscene

obsessed

offended

optimistic

outraged

overwhelmed

pacified

pain

panicky

paranoia

passion

pathetic

peaceful

perturbation



pessimistic

petrified

pity

playful

pleased

pleasure

possessive

pride

provoked

proud

puzzled

rage

regretful

relief

remorse

resentment

resignation

resolved

re

sadness

satisfied

scared

Schadenfreudesong about Schadenfreude

scorn

selfish

sensual

sensitive

sexy

shame

sheepish

shocked

shy

sincerity

solemn

somber

sorrow

sorry

spirited

stressedstressed2

strong

submissive

superior

surprised

sweet

sympathetic

temperamental

tense

terrified

threatened

thrilled

tired

tranquil

troubled

trust

tormented

uncertainty

uneasiness

unhappy

upset

vengeful

vicious

warm

weary

worn-out

worried

worthless

wrathful

yearning

zesty

.... and what does Star Trek movie in 2000s have? Lust, Anger, Being puzzled, flirtiness...the emphasis is on VIOLENCE, SEX, DECEITFULNESS.

Actually tell me the emotions you are experiencing through characters in Star Trek originals vs Star Trek the movie (2000s).
 
Hmmm....

I watched ST for its advancedments , in Humanity and the starship , Enterprise .

And more importantly , EXPLORATION .
 
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I know Shatner tends to pour out emotions, but I'm not sure I'd go so far as to call him a faucet. :D
I meant facets, not "faucets" but yest Shatner has been pouring out emotions and thats why I love Star Trek originals.
 
A spinoff is a new story but does not have to be in the same universe.
The latest movies are not a retelling of the original story. They are new stories about new characters.

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The query I had was what happened to Carol, when she joined the crew at the end of Into The Darkness.. Her role was quite pivotal in that movie, so it was strange that she was not even mentioned in Beyond.

Maybe she was transferred & they never meet again.

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