Stability as Cosmic Foundation: Rethinking Reality's Underlying Architecture!

[seddighrigi]

Fellow seekers of cosmic truth,

What if the mysteries of dark matter and cosmic acceleration point not to new particles, but to a deeper layer of reality? My work explores 'stability' () as:

• The invisible scaffolding preserving existence itself
• The bridge between quantum fluctuations and cosmic structure
• A new lens on why reality appears as it does

Manifesto:
Zenodo Preprint:https://zenodo.org/records/15232681

Let's contemplate together:

1. How might redefine our 'physics of persistence'?
2. Could the universe's stability budget explain galactic patterns?

Join me in this boundary-crossing dialogue between physics and philosophy.

 

[exchemist]

Fellow seekers of cosmic truth,

What if the mysteries of dark matter and cosmic acceleration point not to new particles, but to a deeper layer of reality? My work explores 'stability' () as:

• The invisible scaffolding preserving existence itself
• The bridge between quantum fluctuations and cosmic structure
• A new lens on why reality appears as it does

Manifesto:
Zenodo Preprint:https://zenodo.org/records/15232681

Let's contemplate together:

1. How might redefine our 'physics of persistence'?
2. Could the universe's stability budget explain galactic patterns?

Join me in this boundary-crossing dialogue between physics and philosophy.

Hmm, sounds like quantum woo to me.

Do you have a theory, or just a “manifesto” ?

 

[Pinball1970]

Needs to be in another SF.

 

[seddighrigi]

Hmm, sounds like quantum woo to me.

Do you have a theory, or just a “manifesto” ?

Stability Theory aims to redefine cosmic concepts, propose a mathematical model for examining "balance," and present a scientific approach to dark matter and dark energy. Therefore, it can be said that it resembles both a scientific theory and a manifesto. Whether it is considered a valid scientific theory depends on whether its predictions can be tested and verified by scientific reviewers.

 

[DaveC426913]

Whether it is considered a valid scientific theory depends on whether its predictions can be tested and verified by scientific reviewers.

And does it make testable predictions? Example?

 

[Pinball1970]

Stability Theory aims to redefine cosmic concepts, propose a mathematical model for examining "balance," and present a scientific approach to dark matter and dark energy. Therefore, it can be said that it resembles both a scientific theory and a manifesto. Whether it is considered a valid scientific theory depends on whether its predictions can be tested and verified by scientific reviewers.

I do not click unknown links. Can you outline the theory step by step please?

 

[exchemist]

Stability Theory aims to redefine cosmic concepts, propose a mathematical model for examining "balance," and present a scientific approach to dark matter and dark energy. Therefore, it can be said that it resembles both a scientific theory and a manifesto. Whether it is considered a valid scientific theory depends on whether its predictions can be tested and verified by scientific reviewers.

Can you outline it here, then, in accordance with forum rules which say readers should not be expected to click unknown links to understand the topic of discussion?

 

[seddighrigi]

Can you outline it here, then, in accordance with forum rules which say readers should not be expected to click unknown links to understand the topic of discussion?

Certainly! Here's a concise outline of Stability Theory, so that readers don’t need to click external links to understand the discussion:

Stability Theory: A New Perspective on Dark Matter and Dark Energy
Stability Theory proposes that dark matter and dark energy are not separate phenomena but two manifestations of a single, fundamental essence—stability. This stability acts as an intrinsic force that prevents the universe from collapsing entirely and influences the fabric of reality.

Key Ideas of the Theory:
1. Unifying Dark Matter and Dark Energy
- Traditional models treat dark matter (which binds galaxies) and dark energy (which accelerates cosmic expansion) as distinct forces.
- Stability Theory suggests they originate from the same underlying stability essence, which governs both cohesion and expansion in the cosmos.

2. Stability as the Precursor to Matter and Energy
- Instead of assuming matter and energy existed first, this theory suggests that stability existed before them, enabling their formation.
- In regions of low stability, matter and energy may decay or behave anomalously (e.g., black holes).

3. Observational Predictions
- Galactic rotation curves: Stability Theory suggests that the constant speed of stars at galactic edges is an effect of stability, rather than needing dark matter halos.
- Cosmic acceleration: Areas with lower stability may correlate with dark energy effects, influencing the rate of expansion.
- Black holes and instability: Stability might be weaker near black holes, impacting the dynamics of singularities and gravitational waves.

Implications:
- Links physics and philosophy, questioning the nature of existence and cognition within the framework of stability.
- Suggests new avenues for observational research, including testing stability-related effects in cosmic structures.

This theory aims to redefine fundamental assumptions about dark matter, dark energy, and the fabric of reality itself.

 

[seddighrigi]

And does it make testable predictions? Example?

Yes, Stability Theory makes testable predictions by proposing that dark matter and dark energy are unified manifestations of stability rather than separate entities. A specific example of testability is its connection to galactic rotation curves:

- Prediction: Stability influences the constant rotational speed of stars at galactic edges, mimicking the effects attributed to dark matter.
- How to test? Observational studies of rotation curves in galaxies with irregular halo structures can reveal whether deviations align with stability-driven effects rather than conventional dark matter models.

This framework also suggests that cosmic acceleration (dark energy) is linked to regions of reduced stability, meaning voids and expansion anomalies might correlate with stability fluctuations.

 

[Pinball1970]

How would you define stability in terms of mass, energy, radiation etc?
Also any mathematics with this?

 

[Pinball1970]

A specific example of testability is its connection to galactic rotation curves:

There is already a lot of data from space telescopes on galaxy rotation, bullet clusters, black holes and wide binaries.
Have you tested your theory, model, equations of you have any, against any of this data?
Does any of it align with the data better than GR, ∆CDM, MOND?

 

[DaveC426913]

Yes, Stability Theory makes testable predictions by proposing that dark matter and dark energy are unified manifestations of stability rather than separate entities. A specific example of testability is its connection to galactic rotation curves:

This is not a prediction.

- Prediction: Stability influences the constant rotational speed of stars at galactic edges, mimicking the effects attributed to dark matter.
- How to test? Observational studies of rotation curves in galaxies with irregular halo structures can reveal whether deviations align with stability-driven effects rather than conventional dark matter models.

And how do these stability-driven effects manifest? Is there math to show what effects they predict?

Is there a mechanism - a force of some sort - that alters the rate of rotation of galaxies?

This framework also suggests that cosmic acceleration (dark energy) is linked to regions of reduced stability, meaning voids and expansion anomalies might correlate with stability fluctuations.

This is word salad.

 

[seddighrigi]

There is already a lot of data from space telescopes on galaxy rotation, bullet clusters, black holes and wide binaries.
Have you tested your theory, model, equations of you have any, against any of this data?
Does any of it align with the data better than GR, ∆CDM, MOND?

Stability Theory is still in the theoretical development phase,

However, this theory provides qualitative predictions that could be tested in future observations, including:

1. Stability and Galactic Rotation Curves:
- The theory suggests that the constant rotational velocity of stars at galaxy edges is a result of stability rather than dark matter.
- Possible test: Studying galaxies with irregular halo structures to analyze whether observed deviations align with stability-driven effects instead of conventional dark matter models.

2. Stability’s Role in Bullet Clusters and Matter Distribution:
- Stability may influence matter distribution in bullet clusters, similar to how dark matter is inferred.
- Possible test: Investigating correlations between density variations and signs of stability-related effects.

3. Stability and Black Holes:
- The theory proposes that black holes might exist in regions with the lowest stability, suggesting a deep connection between gravitational singularities and cosmic stability.
- Possible test: Analyzing gravitational wave data from black hole mergers to determine whether stability fluctuations correlate with extreme gravitational conditions.

4. Stability and Cosmic Acceleration (Dark Energy):
- Stability Theory suggests that cosmic acceleration is linked to reduced stability, rather than an independent force.
- Possible test: Studying cosmic voids and their expansion behavior to find stability-related patterns in dark energy effects.


Unlike ΛCDM, which treats dark matter and dark energy as two distinct components, Stability Theory unifies them as manifestations of the same fundamental essence—stability. Moreover, while ΛCDM does not explain the origin of matter and energy, Stability Theory proposes that stability precedes matter and energy, possibly serving as their foundational cause.

Additionally, black holes in ΛCDM are treated as singularities within general relativity, whereas Stability Theory suggests that they may be zones of reduced stability, offering a potential deeper connection between cosmic coherence and gravitational singularities.

While this theory is still undergoing theoretical refinement, its proposed framework could provide new insights and testable pathways for evaluating cosmic dynamics beyond ΛCDM and MOND.

 

[DaveC426913]

Stability Theory is still in the theoretical development phase,

However, this theory provides qualitative predictions that could be tested in future observations, including:

OK, so it's in the early stage of qualitiatve predictions, but does it at least have a mechanism, even if not numbers?

1. Stability and Galactic Rotation Curves:
- The theory suggests that the constant rotational velocity of stars at galaxy edges is a result of stability rather than dark matter.

How, exactly? What does "stability" do, specifically, to affect the velocity of stars?

- Possible test: Studying galaxies with irregular halo structures to analyze whether observed deviations align with stability-driven effects instead of conventional dark matter models.

That is not a test. That is just studying.

What does you mean by "align"? How does this "stability" thing manifest to change the velocites of stars?

2. Stability’s Role in Bullet Clusters and Matter Distribution:
- Stability may influence matter distribution in bullet clusters, similar to how dark matter is inferred.
- Possible test: Investigating correlations between density variations and signs of stability-related effects.

"investigating correlations" is not a test.

3. Stability and Black Holes:
- The theory proposes that black holes might exist in regions with the lowest stability, suggesting a deep connection between gravitational singularities and cosmic stability.

Describe the nature of a "region of lowest stability" for us.

- Possible test: Analyzing gravitational wave data from black hole mergers to determine whether stability fluctuations correlate with extreme gravitational conditions.

That is not a test. That is analyzing.

4. Stability and Cosmic Acceleration (Dark Energy):
- Stability Theory suggests that cosmic acceleration is linked to reduced stability, rather than an independent force.

"Linked" is a generic word. How is it linked? What mechanisms? Qualitatively, how does it operate?

- Possible test: Studying cosmic voids and their expansion behavior to find stability-related patterns in dark energy effects.

Studying is not testing.

Unlike ΛCDM, which treats dark matter and dark energy as two distinct components, Stability Theory unifies them as manifestations of the same fundamental essence—stability.

And what does that look like? How do they manifest, and what odes that do to the velocities of stars?

Moreover, while ΛCDM does not explain the origin of matter and energy, Stability Theory proposes that stability precedes matter and energy, possibly serving as their foundational cause.

Is this "proposal" more than emptry rhetoric? Does it propose a specific mechanism by which they are foundationally caused?

Additionally, black holes in ΛCDM are treated as singularities within general relativity, whereas Stability Theory suggests that they may be zones of reduced stability, offering a potential deeper connection between cosmic coherence and gravitational singularities.

"Suggests"? Theories don't suggest; they predict.

While this theory is still undergoing theoretical refinement, its proposed framework could provide new insights and testable pathways for evaluating cosmic dynamics beyond ΛCDM and MOND.

So far, it's just a buzzword. You need to start showing what "stability" means and how it acts - by what mechanisms - to manifest what we see.



Look, if this were a proposal for a time-sharing vacation, so far it's going like this:

You: "We are in the early stages of design but we can assure you that your stay will be the most beautiful and very restful - better than anyting they have now".
Us: "What kind of beauty? Mountains? Beaches?"
You: "We don't have numbers yet."
Us: "I'm not asking for numbers. I'm asking if your idea of beauty and relaxation is mountains or beaches."
You: We're not sure yet, but we are going to do some studies to find out."
Us: Then how do you know if it's any better if you can't even say what it is..."

 

[seddighrigi]

OK, so it's in the early stage of qualitiatve predictions, but does it at least have a mechanism, even if not numbers?

Yes, Stability Theory proposes a conceptual mechanism even though it is still developing formal numerical predictions.

- Fundamental Premise: Instead of treating dark matter and dark energy as separate forces, the theory suggests that stability is the underlying essence governing their behavior. Stability serves as the precursor to matter and energy, rather than being an emergent property of them.
- Mechanism for Matter and Energy Formation: The theory posits that regions of high stability allow matter and energy to emerge and persist, while regions of low stability lead to disruptions, decay, and phenomena like black holes.
- Stability and Cosmic Expansion: Stability Theory proposes that reduced stability manifests as cosmic acceleration, linking it directly to dark energy effects.
- Balance Equation: A preliminary mathematical model is introduced in the paper, defining "Balance" (B) as a function of matter density, energy transfer, and time flow, which changes depending on stability conditions.

the mechanism itself offers a coherent foundation for interpreting cosmic phenomena within a unified framework that challenges conventional models like ΛCDM.

 

[DaveC426913]

Yes, Stability Theory proposes a conceptual mechanism even though it is still developing formal numerical predictions.

And what is this conceptual mechanism? How does it manifest?

- Fundamental Premise: Instead of treating dark matter and dark energy as separate forces, the theory suggests that stability is the underlying essence governing their behavior. Stability serves as the precursor to matter and energy, rather than being an emergent property of them.

"essence" is a generic term. Can you clarify what this essence is made of?

What thing, exactly, has the property of being stable or unstable? A new particle, for example?

- Mechanism for Matter and Energy Formation: The theory posits that regions of high stability allow matter and energy to emerge and persist, while regions of low stability lead to disruptions, decay, and phenomena like black holes.

Clarify the properties of high and low stability. How do they manifest?

So far these are just generic words.

the mechanism itself offers a coherent foundation for interpreting cosmic phenomena within a unified framework that challenges conventional models like ΛCDM.

OK, so you're still saying the resort will be "beautiful and restful" - vacuous terms, without telling us if that's beaches or mountains.

 

[seddighrigi]

That is not a test. That is just studying.

What does you mean by "align"? How does this "stability" thing manifest to change the velocites of stars?

Stability Theory proposes that the consistent rotational velocities of stars at the edges of galaxies may not solely result from unseen mass, as assumed in dark matter models, but rather from an underlying fundamental influence—stability—that governs the large-scale coherence of cosmic structures.

Mechanism: How Stability Affects Star Velocities
1. Stability as an Intrinsic Property of Cosmic Structures:
- Stability acts as a structural regulator in the universe, maintaining coherence in gravitational systems.
- It functions as an underlying essence that preserves dynamic equilibrium, preventing the expected decline in rotational velocities based on Newtonian models.

2. Manifestation in Galactic Rotation Curves:
- High Stability Regions: Outer stars in galaxies retain consistent speeds due to the reinforcing effects of stability, which prevents a steep drop-off in velocity.
- Low Stability Regions: In cases where stability fluctuates or weakens, unexpected deviations may occur, leading to distortions in rotation curves that might be falsely attributed to inhomogeneous dark matter distributions.

Clarification of "Align" in Testing
- The term "align" refers to whether observed deviations in rotation curves correlate with predictions based on stability variations rather than requiring unseen mass (dark matter halos).
- A proposed test could involve identifying galaxies with irregular halos but predicted high stability—if their rotation curves remain stable despite their asymmetrical mass distributions, it may indicate that stability itself governs star velocities instead of purely gravitational mass effects.

Key Difference from ΛCDM and Dark Matter Models
While ΛCDM attributes velocity retention entirely to dark matter, Stability Theory suggests an alternative—a direct connection between cosmic structure coherence and stability, offering a potential explanatory mechanism that does not rely on hypothetical unseen mass.

 

[DaveC426913]

Stability Theory proposes that the consistent rotational velocities of stars at the edges of galaxies may not solely result from unseen mass, as assumed in dark matter models, but rather from an underlying fundamental influence—stability—that governs the large-scale coherence of cosmic structures.

We get that. You are saying the same thing over and over.

HOW how this stabilty thing "infuence the velocity of stars?

Mechanism: How Stability Affects Star Velocities
1. Stability as an Intrinsic Property of Cosmic Structures:
- Stability acts as a structural regulator in the universe, maintaining coherence in gravitational systems.
- It functions as an underlying essence that preserves dynamic equilibrium, preventing the expected decline in rotational velocities based on Newtonian models.

These are not mechanisms.

2. Manifestation in Galactic Rotation Curves:
- High Stability Regions: Outer stars in galaxies retain consistent speeds due to the reinforcing effects of stability, which prevents a steep drop-off in velocity.
- Low Stability Regions: In cases where stability fluctuates or weakens, unexpected deviations may occur, leading to distortions in rotation curves that might be falsely attributed to inhomogeneous dark matter distributions.

This is merely self-referential. You have not defined what this stability is.

Clarification of "Align" in Testing
- The term "align" refers to whether observed deviations in rotation curves correlate with predictions based on stability variations rather than requiring unseen mass (dark matter halos).

Oh for pete's sake.
WHAT PREDICTIONS does it make? By what mechanism?

Key Difference from ΛCDM and Dark Matter Models
While ΛCDM attributes velocity retention entirely to dark matter, Stability Theory suggests an alternative—a direct connection between cosmic structure coherence and stability,

This is hand-waving. WHAT is the "direct connetion"?

offering a potential explanatory mechanism that does not rely on hypothetical unseen mass.

No. Instead it relies on hyportrtical uneseen "stability", which is even less defined than dark matter.

 

[exchemist]

Stability Theory proposes that the consistent rotational velocities of stars at the edges of galaxies may not solely result from unseen mass, as assumed in dark matter models, but rather from an underlying fundamental influence—stability—that governs the large-scale coherence of cosmic structures.

Mechanism: How Stability Affects Star Velocities
1. Stability as an Intrinsic Property of Cosmic Structures:
- Stability acts as a structural regulator in the universe, maintaining coherence in gravitational systems.
- It functions as an underlying essence that preserves dynamic equilibrium, preventing the expected decline in rotational velocities based on Newtonian models.

2. Manifestation in Galactic Rotation Curves:
- High Stability Regions: Outer stars in galaxies retain consistent speeds due to the reinforcing effects of stability, which prevents a steep drop-off in velocity.
- Low Stability Regions: In cases where stability fluctuates or weakens, unexpected deviations may occur, leading to distortions in rotation curves that might be falsely attributed to inhomogeneous dark matter distributions.

Clarification of "Align" in Testing
- The term "align" refers to whether observed deviations in rotation curves correlate with predictions based on stability variations rather than requiring unseen mass (dark matter halos).
- A proposed test could involve identifying galaxies with irregular halos but predicted high stability—if their rotation curves remain stable despite their asymmetrical mass distributions, it may indicate that stability itself governs star velocities instead of purely gravitational mass effects.

Key Difference from ΛCDM and Dark Matter Models
While ΛCDM attributes velocity retention entirely to dark matter, Stability Theory suggests an alternative—a direct connection between cosmic structure coherence and stability, offering a potential explanatory mechanism that does not rely on hypothetical unseen mass.

OK, in physical science, "stability" is associated with the minimum energy the system can attain. For example, a chemical compound is said to be stable if changes to it would increase, rather than decreasing, its chemical energy. Or, in physics, a pencil lying flat on a desk is in a more stable state than one balanced on its end, as it has lower gravitational potential energy.

Does your concept of stability correspond to minimum energy or to something different, and if so, what?

 

[seddighrigi]

OK, in physical science, "stability" is associated with the minimum energy the system can attain. For example, a chemical compound is said to be stable if changes to it would increase, rather than decreasing, its chemical energy. Or, in physics, a pencil lying flat on a desk is in a more stable state than one balanced on its end, as it has lower gravitational potential energy.

Does your concept of stability correspond to minimum energy or to something different, and if so, what?

The concept of stability in Stability Theory differs from traditional minimum-energy definitions in physics and chemistry. Instead of viewing stability strictly as the lowest energy state of a system, Stability Theory treats stability as a fundamental precursor to both matter and energy, governing their formation and persistence.
Stability Theory, however, proposes that stability exists independently of energy, serving as a foundational property that enables coherent physical structures to emerge and persist.
Stability as a Structural Principle: Stability does not just determine how systems settle into low-energy configurations; rather, it governs which physical configurations are viable at all. For example, in galaxies, stability might regulate why certain rotational behaviors persist despite expected gravitational effects, rather than simply being an outcome of energy dissipation.
Manifestation of Stability in Cosmic Structures: Stability influences the uniform distribution of matter and the persistence of large-scale structures, such as galaxies and cosmic voids. In extreme regions—such as near black holes—stability may break down, leading to anomalies in matter and energy behavior.
Stability Theory introduces stability as a governing framework that enables and maintains those states in the first place. It suggests that dark matter and dark energy may be emergent consequences of stability, rather than independent substances.