Spin off thread: satire versus insult

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The problem is that the weak, the timid, the cowardly and those who believe that social order should revolve around the lowest common denominator are by far more numerous than those who believe otherwise, and also now occupy the majority of positions of power.

Would the cowardly include those who leave then return under a sock puppet name, pretending to be a different person, perchance?
 
Date. Not post count. Date.

Well the alternative is that you have been reading these forums for years, without ever participating. Which is a bit strange, don't you think? Staying in the shadows and watching for so long without once saying a word, or even becoming a member.

This is turning into a possible drama and you are getting cranky. Please, forget I said anything. Shine on..
Cranky? Hell no. I've been having loads of fun in a different thread.

Bells. Think very carefully. One has a different internet address, one changes ones name using that different address.
That implies that before, one used a different email address and a different name.
It's not really rocket science, you know.

I'd completely forgotten how much fun it was possible to have, here.
"you can ring my be....eee....eeells, you can ring my bells..."
 
Would the cowardly include those who leave then return under a sock puppet name, pretending to be a different person, perchance?
Nope. A name change is a name change, and the reasons for it are only limited by what a single observer perceives them to be.

I'm the Wolf, laddie. Hi.

Still a wet blanket?


* edit - I'm completely wrong. The cowardly would indeed include those who left and then returned under a different name pretending to be someone else. Zounds, what slipshod cogitation on my part.
 
Cranky? Hell no. I've been having loads of fun in a different thread.
So I see. Ah yes. Is the concept of God innate or not.

Bells. Think very carefully. One has a different internet address, one changes ones name using that different address.
That implies that before, one used a different email address and a different name.
It's not really rocket science, you know.
Oh wow. Really? Gosh, you are so clever.:rolleyes:

I am well aware that you are not new. I was merely amusing myself to pass the time.

I'd completely forgotten how much fun it was possible to have, here.
/Snort.

"you can ring my be....eee....eeells, you can ring my bells..."
Salaud!

:bawl:
 
As I said, this is a place of science and our charter is to abide by the scientific method. One of its cornerstones is the Rule of Laplace: Extraordinary assertions must be presented with extraordinary support--evidence, reasoning, something--before we are obliged to treat them with respect.

Religionism in general, and creationism in particular, have not even ordinary support, much less extraordinary. The "evidence" provided by so-called creation "scientists" is a collection of fossils carefully selected to make a fraudulent point, and poorly-reviewed papers from third-rate universities.

We are truly not obliged to treat evolution denial with respect. That doesn't mean we are required to treat it with disrespect, but neither are we prohibited from doing so. Especially when so much of it is a mix of dishonesty, willful ignorance, and misuse of words. (Many creationists use "evolution" to mean "abiogenesis," and by now they've got no excuse for not knowing the difference.)

All together now: FUCK RELIGION and FUCK EVOLUTION DENIALISM.

I get all that. I thought James' list was pretty funny. I know people who not only hold those beliefs, but the attitudes as well. But Baron isn't protesting the content, he's protesting James being mean after he has been scolded many times for being mean. The only difference, as Baron can tell, is that James is being mean to people he disagrees with, but when Baron is mean to people he disagrees with, he gets in trouble.
 
Unfortunately, Lucy, the site itself has resolved to ensure it is like the vast majority of similar ones on the net, and is in the process losing the very things which once made it a pleasurable place to spend time.

The problem is that the weak, the timid, the cowardly and those who believe that social order should revolve around the lowest common denominator are by far more numerous than those who believe otherwise, and also now occupy the majority of positions of power.
Thus, they are becoming more and more correct as time passes.

There have been far too many characters lost from this site in recent years, replaced by.... what there is now. At the current rate of attrition, I'm surprised there is anyone interesting left here at all.

There are pockets here and there, but you have to dig really deep into them past the fluff and lint, the old pennies and frayed ends of love notes long since discarded. There are too many people here who find the lint interesting enough to ponder what sweater it came from or busy themselves counting the pennies and determining their value. A waste. Mostly, it's misspent energy on things that should best be ignored. There is simply not enough passion in the re-read of a old frayed love note once the players are long forgotten, don't forget.

But it sounds like just a job for an antihero like yourself. I am particularly fond of your choice of name upon your return, by the way. Your cuts mark the stone cuts in others, and occasionally you find nothing but more rock or coal, especially now. On the rare occasion you find a glint of brilliance, you must keep at it to form it into something a little more worthy than the sand that marks the sea bed. Many of the more interesting folks around here seem to sit in wait, as if watching to see if the clock will actually fall off the nail or if will alone could somehow make the whole damned timepiece begin to utter it's tick-tick once more. On the edge of our seats, we barely blink now... sniffing the stale air and willing ourselves to hope. Some even guard the room waiting for movement as if they left there would be a ghost town and they are partially right since they are the bearers of the tome of history here. For some, it's a death march for skeletons long since buried but the return of people like you charge the air with the kind of energy we used to have in this rotting place. It's brittle bone, and rather sad.

So throw the switch, Wolf. If you light it, they will come.
 
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Last night I was drawn to the TV by my voyeuristic teenager. 'Look, look penises on primetime' or similar was the rallying cry. God forgive me it worked; such a rare, rare occurance as is. I found myself glued.

And there they were a host of golden penises, of various lengths and widths, each one, rather helpfully I thought, had a ruler superimposed upon it. A gaggle of red-faced young fellows was paraded before said penises and asked which they thought was most reperesentative of the Great British penis. The boys identified the longest donger (seven inches flaccid). In 'reality' the average length of the Great British penis is 4 inches in length; girth did not warrant a mention. Some of the fellows looked distinctly relieved; others looked a little crestfallen.

Next, out of sight and earshot of their peers, each boy was asked which one they wished was theirs (oh breathe in the science here people!). Unsurprisingly (though the host appeared shocked) each boy wished the 7 incher was his. Had I been the host of the 'show' I would have gotten each fellow to get his own out so that I and 50 million other views could do a quick comparison but I digress.

Anyway then each boy was asked to explain why they felt ownership of a big penis was important. What was the most representative answer one might suppose at this stage. Succinctly:

'Well it's something to boast to the others about.'
 
Oh, that's no problem, James, I'll just take the exact same format and change it to be about why I reject the black race. Pretty neat, huh?

An entire race = people who maintain a clearly flawed scientific viewpoint?

I fail to see the link. You're full of hot air, Baron.
 
Is that a personal insult, Fraggle? Or are you going to make some long, drawn-out post trying to explain why it's not a personal insult? ...which is against the rules at sciforums. ...of which you are a moderator?!

I'm working on a really good post ridiculing a group of people in the same format as James R used to ridicule creationists. I think it'll be a hit ...until James deletes it and then bans me, of course.

Baron Max

What's wrong with ridiculing creationists? If I remember well their literary works aren't that flattering for all the "heathens" either.

You reap what you sow.
 
What's wrong with ridiculing creationists? If I remember well their literary works aren't that flattering for all the "heathens" either.

You reap what you sow.

As Gandhi said: An eye for eye only ends up making the whole world blind.

There are limits, ofcourse; one can turn the other cheek, but only only has 2 cheeks. But when it comes to words online, I, atleast, never find the need to get crude.
 
There isn't anything wrong with ridiculing the creationists Psychotropicpuppy, some are even masochisitic enough to get off on it, persecution complex, Baron is just testing James searching for some non-existent guidlines.
 
There are pockets here and there, but you have to dig really deep into them past the fluff and lint, the old pennies and frayed ends of love notes long since discarded...

So throw the switch, Wolf. If you light it, they will come.
Lovely. Invigorating.

Challenging.

You are throwing some pressure on me here.
I am wondering if I am still up to it. Circumstances, you see. Happenings.
The Past. Blah.
Blah.
If only it were blah.

A mind asleep sometimes finds it difficult to wake. A mind bruised even more so. We will see how things go. I will need to be patient with me. And stern.

I feel as though I should know who you are, but I do not. There are times when it is better that way. I am curious, but I am sure you will not disappoint me by letting me know if we have "met" before.
 
There isn't anything wrong with ridiculing the creationists Psychotropicpuppy, some are even masochisitic enough to get off on it, persecution complex, Baron is just testing James searching for some non-existent guidlines.

There are guidelines and even some rules; they may be a bit too vague, but they do exist. I personally believe I got some idea as to what they are in this thread:
Rules concerning what constitutes a personal attack are too vague
 
The guidelines are arbitrary. Whether a personal attack is punished depends on a number of factors, including:

- Who makes the attack.

- Who is on the receiving end of the attack.

- The moderator to whom it is reported.
 
The guidelines are arbitrary. Whether a personal attack is punished depends on a number of factors, including:

- Who makes the attack.

- Who is on the receiving end of the attack.

- The moderator to whom it is reported.

I agree; however, the thread I mentioned showed that there is actually an official 6 word list of censurable terms and Bells did give the nod for several others that I mentioned. They have to be used in a personal attack manner, not banter and ofcourse different mods may have different ideas as to what constitutes 'banter', but it is atleast a framework on which to build. I think that the term 'delusional' should be added to the list though, coming to think of it; I reported the term used against someone recently in the parapsychology forum, not sure if it'll get any positive results, we'll see.
 
I think that calling a poster 'dishonest' should also be considered a personal attack. In fact, I'd argue that 'dishonest' is a more offensive label than 'dickhead' or 'fuckwad'.
 
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