Sandy Hook.

Bebelina

Bebelina

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Link to the article.

This is very dark and terrible and I feel bad for the parents and everybody involved.

What do you think triggered the shooter to do this?

From what I've read, people say he was very intelligent, had a personality disorder, but seemed happy. I'm sure there are other articles that says other thing out there that I have not read.

The reason to find out why he did this is of course to be able to analyze the behaviour and spot people with risk behaviour. Often they give out a lot of signs that something is bothering them, or have an obsession for wheapons etc. But that goes for so many people.

Do you think he was a member of sciforums? He seems to "fit the profile".

Could this have been prevented and if so how?

I hope this thread is not offensive in any way, just thought people needed to talk about it.
 
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Officially, they've said very little about him so far.

It's obvious that he was insane but there's been nothing released about his motive or what triggered his actions. The only small spot of consolation for me in all this is that he's dead and can never again hurt another innocent child.

Personally, I feel ALL child abusers - even in *much* milder cases - should meet the same fate as quickly as possible.
 
Bebelina said:
Apparently he was in some technology-group in school.
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So because he was "geeky" you think he visited this forum? You have a strange way of putting things together, just how did you learn he was in a tech group by the way, I have not heard about that yet here in America.
 
Bebelina said:
Apparently he was in some technology-group in school.
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And?

How does that "fit the profile"? What profile is that?

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The only small spot of consolation for me in all this is that he's dead and can never again hurt another innocent child.
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I doubt that the parents and family's of the victims would find any consolation in the fact that the person who gunned down their loved one's killed himself before he could be caught.
 
Bells said:
I doubt that the parents and family's of the victims would find any consolation in the fact that the person who gunned down their loved one's killed himself before he could be caught.
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I said *nothing* about those parents whatsoever. The concern I expressed was for other, as yet untouched, parents. I'm not ignoring their feelings in the least BUT I'm just thankful he cannot now destroy other lives. Period.
 
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I said *nothing* about those parents whatsoever. The concern I expressed was for other, as yet untouched, parents. I'm not ignoring their feelings in the least BUT I'm just thankful he cannot now destroy other lives. Period.
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I think he is a coward and like any coward, he took what would have been the easy way out in his circumstance, instead of facing the family's of those he gunned down. And I personally think he is already destroying other lives..
 
Bells said:
I think he is a coward and like any coward, he took what would have been the easy way out in his circumstance, instead of facing the family's of those he gunned down. And I personally think he is already destroying other lives..
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No, he's not a coward - he WAS a coward, clearly.

And feel free to keep on trying to put your personal argumentative twist on this - I've seen you do that dozens of times here - but I'm finished with you.
 
Bells said:
And?

How does that "fit the profile"? What profile is that?
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http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...-killed-27-in-elementary-school-massacre?lite
http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article15936640.ab

According to these articles he had an interest in technology, was in a technology group in high school, was a loner, "nerd", high achiever, intelligent etc. In the Swedish newspaperarticle they even call him a genius. I think many of the sciforum members have similar interests and can be described in the same way. I'm not saying that sciforums raises massmurderers or that any sciforum member should feel pointed out as such either.
 
Do you think he would still have done this if he hadn't had such easy access to guns? Was it a spur of the moment idea or did he plan this for a long time? If the gun laws changed in America would these type of massacres come to an end?
 
Bebelina said:
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...-killed-27-in-elementary-school-massacre?lite
http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article15936640.ab

According to these articles he had an interest in technology, was in a technology group in high school, was a loner, "nerd", high achiever, intelligent etc. In the Swedish newspaperarticle they even call him a genius. I think many of the sciforum members have similar interests and can be described in the same way. I'm not saying that sciforums raises massmurderers or that any sciforum member should feel pointed out as such either.
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Though it's a stretch, I can see what made you think of this.

True, we've got several here who have problems with mental stability - but I've never seen anyone yet (that I can recall) who seemed to be THAT far "off."
 
Bebelina said:
Do you think he would still have done this if he hadn't had such easy access to guns? Was it a spur of the moment idea or did he plan this for a long time? If the gun laws changed in America would these type of massacres come to an end?
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Indeed, having guns in the house might have affected his thinking about his whole situation. They are things of power that exceeds the power of most other things a person might have, which can have a strong a mental influence.
 
Bells said:
And?

How does that "fit the profile"? What profile is that?
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Please give it a rest Bells. Bebelina is entitled to idly speculate about forum membership. It's not a personal affront there...
 
Two problems I see here:
1. Easy access to fire arms, mother with 3 guns for home defense(?) get shot dead by son, tragic irony, then it becomes a cataclysmic tragedy when deranged son kills mother's class of students! But less relatively tragic ironies happen all the time with guns: like the case of a boy playing a burglary prank on his family and getting shot dead by father, but there are tons of other similar incidences. If you want to defend your home against intruders why not a 'tazer'? Reduces chance of "family fire" death and injures, today's multiple shot tazers should make it as effective as a handgun against an intruder.
2. Lack of or poor psychological services. We should have more psychological services paid for by the state to find and help trouble youth. Perhaps a tax on gun ammunition could help pay for it. One of the problems fundamentally is American gun culture which can only be fixed through social and psychological change: people need to feel safer so they don't buy guns, increasing the probability of horrific gun accidents/crimes. Trying to change the gun laws is going to be hard as prying guns from a gun owners cold dead hands, but changing people perception and attitude towards guns is a battle slowly being won already.The truth of the matter is the violent crime in the states is dropping and so is gun ownership!
 
Bebelina said:
Do you think he would still have done this if he hadn't had such easy access to guns? Was it a spur of the moment idea or did he plan this for a long time? If the gun laws changed in America would these type of massacres come to an end?
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I believe he talked his mother into buying those weapons over the years and were not bought all at the same time. Only time will tell through the ongoing investigation so we will see in the future when those weapons were bought.
 
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