Salvia Divinorum

For starters, the vaults of erowid is a great site. Another one is sagewisdom.

"not true. can be smoked in a joint, (how is a joint different than a pipe?). furthermore it can be used like dip"

I'll be honest, I've never tried it in joint form. Everything I've read says you need to do a whole "trip"s amount in 1-2 hits. And lord knows this isn't possible in a joint. In a bong, however......


"So, what were some of the new surroundings that appeared? Can you describe them at all?"

One of them had me falling off a baby's toy while the baby shaked the toy. One of them had me driving down the strip in las vegas. One time I thought every person around me was made up of three very large bananas. One time everything around me had it's own source of gravity and had large tentacle-like legs coming out of it (they were purple and kind of squiggly), except for this one box. Man did that box piss me off. One time I thought I was a toy that was being assembled and then I thought I was on a store shelf.

The thing with salvia and me is that sometimes it's absolutely terrifying and sometimes it's unbelievably hilarious. And all the time I have little to no control over my physical body. The time I thought I was a toy being assembled was terribly frightening. I saw a toy next to me being taken away by a woman and I got very angry at this woman. I got up (apparently, I really have no idea) and started hitting a wall next to me because I thought the wall was full of people in the store which I was being sold in. I then figured out that the other side of the wall was in a friend of mine's room so I ran around to the other side of the wall and started hitting that wall. That was terrifying. The funny times, well, you'll never laugh so hard. Perhaps this won't sound as funny as I make it out to be, but I guarantee you I couldn't breathe I was laughing so damn hard. We were in my friend's basement and I started looking at the two friends sitting near me. All of a sudden, their arms started to turn white. So did their face. And I could see a sign moving across their arms (as in, it started from one hand and moved across the body - which I couldn't see because their shirt covered it, was my logic - and out the other arm) that said "monkey" and on the top left corner of the "m" was a small cartoon-esque drawing of a monkey head.

When I say there's a 50/50 chance of it being terrifying or hilarious, some people ask me why I do it then. The thing is, the terrifying experiences are often more realistic. When the monkey thing was going on every so often the word "hallukinogen" (yes, hallukinogen, not hallucinogen) popped into my mind. When I was a toy being assmebled, I had not the slightest idea that maybe I was hallucinating. When I was falling to my death from the baby toy there was not a single thing that made me wonder if I was actually falling or if it was just a dream/hallucination. And for me, it's the realism that I love.


"Damn, wish I had some"

Go to your local hemp shop. Until they make it illegal in the States, it should be pretty easy to find at a big hemp shop. My advise is to get the 10x stuff, though.


"Does anyone know if it's illegal in Canada? I've heard all sorts of things about it... that it's only legal for native americans? Are there really drugs out there that are only for natives?"

Nope, legal for us Canucks. Soon pot will be that way too, I hope. But salvia's a little more important. Salvia you can't find on the street. You need to go to the stores.
 
Canada's pretty cool. There, i've said it. Yes, an American has said that Canada is cool. Now that we've got that out of the way..

You could probably get salvia extracts or dried stuff from an online vendor. Getting cuttings would be MUCH harder though. Too bad it doesnt grow by seed. I hear it's actually quite tempremental too, a bitch to grow. I might have heard wrong though.
 
"Canada's pretty cool. There, i've said it. Yes, an American has said that Canada is cool. Now that we've got that out of the way.."

Awsome! Yeah, we've got some nice policies on drugs and other such liberal stuffs.


"You could probably get salvia extracts or dried stuff from an online vendor."

http://www.sagewisdom.org/salviashop.html
There ya go!
http://page.auctions.shopping.yahoo.com/auction/70979137?aucview=0x23
But this guy's offer seems little too good to be true. Still, if he was growing it himself, selling it for that price does make a profit. Salvia, if you do the extraction process yourself, is daaaaaaaaamn cheap. The problem is people mark up the price huge because of how rare it is. Believe me, I've made it.
 
(the plants can only be grown from clones

absolutly not true!!! the fact of the matter is, the plant rarley produces seeds, which is why its mostly cloned.

check out The Vaults of Erowid
this site was down for a while, but is back up and equally rocks
http://www.lycaeum.org



I'll be honest, I've never tried it in joint form. Everything I've read says you need to do a whole "trip"s amount in 1-2 hits. And lord knows this isn't possible in a joint. In a bong, however......
yes i've heard that water helps it somehow.
my experience has been you feel like your spinning, and your heart beats very hard, like its going to pop out of your chest. once i made an extract, took two hits from a pipe and tripp my ass off for about 30 seconds, couldof lasted longer but i was in the front yard and a copper rolled by when i was holding the pipe, so i left the tripp. everything was collapsing into itself, and it basicly amount to the regular full deal trip packed into a quick minute.
 
I have done the 10X extract once and it is not your regular recreational "fun" drug at all....

If you can handle total destruction of the ego, like having your brains put through a meatgrinder and reality peeled away, layer by layer, before you see, correct me, are, the cool visuals, than salvia is something to try. Have some large dose of shrooms or cid first to see if you are ready for salvia...
 
I have smoked pot quite a few times, and want to try salvia, so i ordered some off of this web site. i orderd an ounce of the leaves for 35 dollars. i was wondering if this was a good price, and if the leaves have the same reaction as the extract. from what i have read, relating it to pot, the extract is like hash, and the leaves are like the buds on the marijuana plant. Am i right about this or no?
 
how many of the leaves will i have to smoke so i have a pretty nice trip. i read on one web site that there are like levels from 1 to 6. i was thinking of having a level 5 trip, so how much would i have to smoke of that to achieve it?
 
Actually, from what I've heard the best trip you'll get from the leaves will likely be from doing a method that involves holding them under your tongue for 15 minutes. My advise; next time get the extract.
 
yeah, next time i will buy the extract, but for now i have the leaves. does anyone else have an opinion of the nest way i can get trippin from it? i have a bong, and was thinking of ripping that 3 or 4 times, and then waiting to see what happens. does the thing with putting them under your toungue really work, or taste bad?
 
I've never met anyone who's done the tongue thing. However, if you're smoking the leaves I advise you smoke 2-3 bowls in big, big puffs and hold it in. In fact, you know what, you don't even need me to tell you how much to smoke. I've never done the non-extracted stuff but if it's similar to the extract (which people have told me it is, just less potent and more annoying to smoke), you won't need anyone to tell you when to smoke. You'll know very well when enough is enough!
 
yeah, but also, what does the sitter have to know? just that it will eventually end, and it will all be ok within a 1/2 hour?
 
From what I've heard of the dry leaf it shouldn't be much of a problem. The 10X I've done frequently (and the 15X and 20 I've tried) have the power to very easily scare the shit out of me and others. The sitter, if it can be this intense on the dry leaf, should just know that he/she should NOT leave you during the trip. If you start on a bad trip, they should remind you first that you are on a drug and then that it will end shortly. And make sure it's someone you trust not to fuck with your mind.
 
yeah, i was thinking about that, and found someone i trust. thanks for the help, and also is there any way to avoid a bad trip from happening?
 
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