Richard Dawkins vs Wendy Wright

John99 said:
They do show signs of waht can be some deformities or just extinct species.

Could "Evolution of Species" have, in reality, been "Extinction of Species"?

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I am not discussing that but would not prove what you are saying either.
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No they don't show signs of being simply deformed. It all fits, the teeth are the right shape for the jaw, the morphology of the hips supports certain kinds of movement, there is no disease that could account for these, especially since there were more than one example of a species found.

Next, could they just be a branch of apes that went extinct? That also cannot be true, since no modern human fossils are ever found that are contemporary with these. When these hominids existed, there were no modern humans yet.
 
Carcano said:
Can we prove that the very FIRST modern homo sapien evolved from the exact fossils of more primitive hominids we have on hand?

No, there is no proof of that...nor could there be unless the entire ancestry was witnessed under controlled conditions in real time.

So in that sense I agree with you.
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Is it enough evidence to suggest beyond a reasonable doubt that this is correct ?

What is the best alternative theory ?
 
No modern human fossils have been found that are contemporaneous with these primitive hominids. Where were any hominids more than 5 million years ago? The evidence does not support the notion that God made the world just for us. Life has existed on Earth for 3.5 billion years, so we are a late addition.
 
What i mean is tell me the difference between one found and estimated to be 3.5 billion as opposed to say 1 billion.
 
Dating can be accomplished in many ways. The dating methods aren't that controversial, and they can be cross checked with each other.
 
spidergoat said:
Dating can be accomplished in many ways. The dating methods aren't that controversial, and they can be cross checked with each other.
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So then tell us how to tell the difference between a bone\fossil found and estimated at 3 billion years old and 1 billion years old. We are talking about billions of years here. Are you saying that finding something and estimating it to be 3 billion years old cannot, in actuality, be 1 billion years old?
 
John99,

This would be simple to prove were it not for some things we cannot just eliminate. One problem is the fact that we know extinction of species is a reality. The theory of evolution is fine but proving it is another matter.
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I can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that we evolved from lower species which also casts doubt on god creation or alien help.

Canine teeth.

Explain to me why we have them.

If god created us 6,000 years ago and we have evidence of us using fire to cook our food for at least 250,000 years. They why would a god give us canine teeth, which are needed in tearing raw meat. IOW, if he created a new species 6000 years ago there was no need to give canines. We had fire.

If we are aliens from another planet we wouldn't have canine teeth unless all hominids were brought here by the aliens. If that was the case, we evolved here anyway.

So we have god created with no reason to give us canines.
We are from another planet, please explain canines.
We have canines because we needed them hundreds of thousands of years ago and there was no evolutionary reason to get rid of them.

If you can logically explain why we have them I would like to hear it.
 
I can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that we evolved from lower species which also casts doubt on god creation or alien help.

Canine teeth.
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WOW...."Canine teeth" is just a name and those teeth are not really different from the other fron teeth, in humans.

They why would a god give us canine teeth, which are needed in tearing raw meat. IOW, if he created a new species 6000 years ago there was no need to give canines. We had fire.
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I know i dont use those particular teeth for cutting through tough objects, raw meat or not. From my observations humans use the front teeth...but either way they dont resemble canine teeth with any real accuracy.
 
John99 said:
WOW...."Canine teeth" is just a name and those teeth are not really different from the other fron teeth, in humans.



I know i dont use those particular teeth for cutting through tough objects, raw meat or not. From my observations humans use the front teeth...but either way they dont resemble canine teeth with any real accuracy.
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Can you answer my questions or not.
 
What question? I cant be asked religious questions because i am not coming from a religious perspective.
 
John99 said:
What question? I cant be asked religious questions because i am not coming from a religious perspective.
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Doesn't matter.

Explain to me another reason why we would have canine teeth, other than evolving from those who needed them to survive.
 
John99 said:
i added to the other post. I answered it sufficiently.
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No you didn't.

All you did was provide a link to show the teeth. WTF.

That is not an answer to my question. I didn't ask what are canine teeth.

So try again.
 
John99 said:
When i said canine teeth are not really canine teeth shoulod have been sufficient.
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So you can't answer the question then ?

If you answer is that they are not canine teeth then why did you provide a link with canine teeth shown.

Now, if you can answer the question go ahead, if you want to act like a dumbass who doesn't know what canine teeth are then that's fine too. I will just stop taking you seriously. Fair enough.
 
John99,

There are even teeth called "pre molars"...why is that?
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I see based on this that you didn't understand the question.

The question is not why do we have teeth.

The question is why would we have canine specifically if we at the time of god supposedly creating us we had fire and it throws the alien idea right out the window unless the claim is that all with canines came from the same alien planet millions of years ago.

Does this help you understand the question better ?

So please enlighten me with a better explanation for them.
 
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