Religious Solution

Create an Atheism Section

  • Yes

    Votes: 12 36.4%

  • No

    Votes: 21 63.6%
  • Total voters
    33
What would we need an atheism section for? The problem is religion and religiosity and that's what needs to be discussed. Atheism only seems to be a problem for Cook Skill who has some sort of fixation on them (or a fear that their reason and logic will "infect" him and cause him to give up his superstitions).
 
If you guys want to help the cause of breaking the galling chains of religion, take a look at the Freedom From Religion Foundation. I think the website if www.ffrf.org.
 
cole grey said:
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P.S. I think it is necessary to have a religion section - Glaucon, I doubt you would be happy with the philosophy forum after most of the religious talk went into it.
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Indeed.
You do have a point there.
 
Cris said:
We did have an atheism sub-forum, as well as a Christianity sub-forum and we disbanded them. The atheism forum remained essentially empty.

The lesson here is that without theism atheism has little or nothing to say.

The religion sub-forum is NOT just for pro-religion but a vehicle for debate by all sides. If the two sides are segregated then each sub-forum is likely to become banal and stale.

I strongly do not recommend an atheism sub-forum.
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Actually, you're right. Most of my post-count comes from the religion sub-forum. I retract my earlier suggestion to remove it. I'm sorry for wasting all of you people's time by creating that nasty Religion Sub-Forum thread way back when (like, a month ago). Without the religion sub-forum, where would I get all of my posts?

I say keep it the way it is. Mostly because I'm actually starting to grow fond of all of my opponents, even if we're a bit harsh to one another at times...

Cris, Skinwalker, Superluminal (since you guys are the ones I argue with the most around here), I love you guys. Don't ever change your thinking. ;)
 
SkinWalker said:
What would we need an atheism section for? The problem is religion and religiosity and that's what needs to be discussed. Atheism only seems to be a problem for Cook Skill who has some sort of fixation on them (or a fear that their reason and logic will "infect" him and cause him to give up his superstitions).
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Wow... this is an interesting outlook. I suddenly realized that the reason why you wanted to keep the Religion Sub-Forum was because you think religion is a problem that needs to be solved.

Geez, why couldn't you just say that before, and we could have avoided all of those arguments we've had. I'm in favor of cutting to the chase. In fact, I think I'll start a thread about this. Here we go!
 
SkinWalker said:
What would we need an atheism section for? The problem is religion and religiosity and that's what needs to be discussed. Atheism only seems to be a problem for Cook Skill who has some sort of fixation on them (or a fear that their reason and logic will "infect" him and cause him to give up his superstitions).
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Aren't you the idiot claiming to be "weak atheist" as if there was such a thing as weak atheism? You really are weak.
 
cool skill said:
Aren't you the idiot claiming to be "weak atheist" as if there was such a thing as weak atheism? You really are weak.
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You have never taken a philosophy class, have you?

Weak atheism (also called negative atheism) is the absence of belief in the existence of deities, without a belief in the non-existence of deities. Weak atheism contrasts with strong atheism, which is the belief that no deities exist, and theism, which asserts that there is at least one deity.

I'm sure you can find the link.

Also, read this: http://atheism.about.com/od/atheismquestions/a/strong_weak.htm
 
"What the hell is there to talk about? "

The meaning of life..
 
Absane said:
You have never taken a philosophy class, have you?
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You have never have nver experienced the pleasures of having a brain have you? Weak indeed. Get over your delusions of weak/strong atheism. They do not exist.

Hate to break it to you, but grammar is grammar, and logic is logic.
Disbelief = Belief in no.
 
Absane said:
You have never taken a philosophy class, have you?
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LOL

Good point Absane. But it's been my experience over the years here that verrrry few people here, in particular [strangely enough] in the Philosophy forum, have ever taken a philosophy class.

"...modus ponens???

What's that???"


lol
 
cool skill said:
You have never have nver experienced the pleasures of having a brain have you? Weak indeed. Get over your delusions of weak/strong atheism. They do not exist.

Hate to break it to you, but grammar is grammar, and logic is logic.
Disbelief = Belief in no.
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Just because you do not believe in something doesn't mean you deny its existance.

Belief - Mental acceptance of and conviction in the truth, actuality, or validity of something.

Lacking belief just means you do not accept a "truth" at face value.
 
Absane said:
Just because you do not believe in something doesn't mean you deny its existance.

Belief - Mental acceptance of and conviction in the truth, actuality, or validity of something.

Lacking belief just means you do not accept a "truth" at face value.
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In other words, disbelief in X = belief that there is no X. (Or a disbelief that X exists = a belief that X does not exist.) Thank you for pointing that out. Pure logic at its best indeed.
 
Coolskill, you have to realize that not having a belief that something exists can coincide with not having a belief that the thing doesn't exist.
I suppose the weak athiest is an agnostic who has a weak sense that God does not exist, but the sense is not strong enough, or corroborated clearly enough for them, to say they know for sure. Hence the term "weak athiest".
A similar situation to a theist who doesn't really know God exists, and doesn't have have a strong sense, but still has the idea that God probably exists.
Both of these ideologies could be called agnostic, but why not accept the gradations instead of lumping everyone together? And let agnostic be the pure idea of , "I lean neither way, I don't know at all."
 
"Lacking belief just means you do not accept a "truth" at face value. "

But what if it is not true?
Then you don't accept a lie.
 
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