Religion and women.
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Are you going to deny that men were tried and killed for being witches?
I don't think so.
You see, today people is turning kind of silly, everything offend them as if it is an attack to their condition, orientation, status, belief, etc.
Long ago you can tell jokes about a blind man, today your joke can be taken as offensive. You can't laugh of jokes about cripples, homosexuals, religious dudes, etc. Someone, somewhere will claim such is offensive.
In my job, where I was discriminated a lot, a supervisor used to imitate my funny English speaking, and he was so good doing it that I never felt offended but I was laughing of his jokes same as the others were laughing of me.
Jokes are essential in life, and if women can't handle them, the problem is not with the one making mockeries but with those women who feel offended.
I wonder why people didn't feel offended when jokes by thousands were made on president Trump. Surely you laughed too. I did, and my guess is president Trump also laughed of the jokes on him.
In this life, if you don't OWN a strong personality, then you'll become the typical social resent finding "enemies" everywhere just because people have good times finding funny the act of laughing on someone.
sculptor
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as i have gotten old
i find that i have grown intolerant of those who are intolerant
i feel offended by people who feel offended when no offense was intended
etc...
etc...
Just because someone is mentally ill, they should not expect me to join their insanity.
(sigh)
Are you even capable of answering a single fucking question? Again:
The population of the U.S. in the 1660s was approximately 75 thousand; global population was over 500 million. Surely you're aware that there were witch trials elsewhere, yes?
As to your baseless assumptions: they don't merit a response.
Idiot.
Only link number three in your list provides some statistics, but failed to show the total in the country. The other links do not reflect modern society but references of past cultures which are not important today at all.
Lets use a typical case of domestic violence. A man and a woman fell in love and got married. Now well, married is an institutionalized union where the couple live together as one, this is recognized even when income taxes are filled up. Man have rights of coupling with the wife, and if the man have sex outside his marriage, such is considered adultery.
Years pass by and suddenly the wife decided to be "independent" but she wants to continue being married but independent of her husband. She wants to get out of the house at her will, stop having sex with the husband plus find another lover from time to time.
The husband finds out her play, and he reacted with violence because she broke the contract. Remember when you sign a marriage paper, you are compromising yourself in a contract.
By law, the one who brakes the contract is the one to lose everything, but the wife using a corrupt attorney finds the way to keep the children, even after it is found she was cheating on the husband. Tell me, does the judge is correct allowing the custody of the children in hands of the bitch? Is that the right decision?
She is not the right example for the children, she broke the contract and she is supposed to lose all the rights on the children. Remember, marriage IS a contract.
The act of violence from part of the husband is not to be forgiven, but such is not cause to lose the custody of his children because his was a reaction of the fault committed by the wife.
As you can see, you just can't judge such act of violence as misogyny, and many cases as the one given here as an example, are not to be counted as such.
It is understood that is more common to find cases of violence against women, this is not rare with mammals in nature, and we are mammals. Of course we have reasoning and we are not to imitate the wild beasts, but if this is correct, then same applies with not imitating homosexuality from wild animals but we must keep reasoning first... then you are trapped... oh yes... you are trapped... no escape... no justification to attack blindly the behavior of man in front of several situations in life.
The law is made to protect our integrity, and this include our physical and mental status, so, for every case you show violence of man against a woman, you must review the causes first, because in many cases such violence was provoked.
Our points of view are different, because you don't see what I can see, which is beyond your comprehension by your lack of seeing the whole horizon. For me the law against rape is not fully enforced but discriminate inmates. For example, most people, including you, accept rape of men in jail but fully reject rape of a woman in the street. To me, rape is rape and both situations are unacceptable. You don't care about men raped in jail, for you "such is part of their punishment", even when the court never stated it. You watch movies where such rape happen or are predicted, and for you there is not a single reaction, however, you watch a movie where a woman is raped and you feel compassion for her and turn against such an act.
See the failing with the current tendency in society? You are dedicated to defend "women rights" by over passing men's rights, and such is also unacceptable.
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Yes.
Why are you being so emotional?
Chill out bro
Assumption?
Really?
Wyporska: Whenever I give talks, the one myth I’m really keen to dispel is the archetype of the witch as female, healer, midwife or herbalist.
In fact, between 20-25 per cent of those we know to have been executed for the crime of witchcraft were men. In what is now Ukraine, Russia and Finland, up to 80 per cent of those accused were men. As Christina Larner said, witchcraft accusations were sex-related, not sex specific.
https://www.newstatesman.com/2018/1...itchcraft-were-men-and-other-surprising-facts
“More men than women were prosecuted for witchcraft in countries such as Normandy, Estonia, Burgundy, Russia and Iceland”
https://inews.co.uk/opinion/comment...-people-accused-of-witchcraft-were-men-354563
“In England the majority of those accused were women. In other countries, including some of the Scandinavian countries, men were in a slight majority. Even in England, the idea of a male witch was perfectly feasible. Across Europe, in the years of witch persecution around 6,000 men – 10 to 15 per cent of the total – were executed for witchcraft.”
https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/learn/histories/eight-witchcraft-myths/
Doesn’t merit a response huh?
Cheers emotional bro
https://inews.co.uk/opinion/comment...-people-accused-of-witchcraft-were-men-354563
https://www.newstatesman.com/2018/1...itchcraft-were-men-and-other-surprising-facts
Bells
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Dude!The witch trial were hatred of witches, not women. Not all the people deemed witches were women.
About eighty people were accused of practicing witchcraft in a witch-hunt that lasted throughout New England from 1647 to 1663. Thirteen women and two men were executed. The Salem witch trials followed in 1692–93, culminating in the executions of 20 people. Five others died in jail.
Poor you
Wrong again
Come on..!
All killed based on trumped up charges because these women did not comply to a certain ideal.. The people who condemned them to death were all men.
Wait, you think these women were actual witches?
And just for an FYI - I wasn't just talking about Salem. I used the term "witch trials" for a reason:
Prosecutions for the crime of witchcraft reached a highpoint from 1580 to 1630 during the Counter-Reformation and the European wars of religion, when an estimated 50,000[1][2] people were burned at the stake, of which roughly 80% were women,[3][4] and most often over the age of 40.
This thread is getting increasingly hostile as more men come in to share why they don’t think misogyny is even a thing, let alone that they display misogynistic behavior. Ya know, women should learn how to take a joke, etc...lol
What year is this?
It’s like when Harvey Weinstein denied the rape charges with “I thought she/they wanted it.”
Hey, if you want to be like that guy, have at it.
What year is this?
It’s like when Harvey Weinstein denied the rape charges with “I thought she/they wanted it.”
Hey, if you want to be like that guy, have at it.
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Bells
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Because what you are asking for is nearly impossible. Which is probably why you requested it.
And if you wish to consider the mass murders committed by incels in the last 10 years as relating to past cultures, then knock yourself out. You are just fooling yourself.
I'm sorry, I am trying to understand how this ridiculously contrived story is your "typical case of domestic violence"...
Secondly, I am trying to not be overly horrified at your belief that:
a) marriage somehow or other gives a man rights to his wife's body (what the hell is wrong with you?)
b) you believe a woman wanting to "get out of the house at her will" is somehow a breach of the marriage contract (what the hell is wrong with you?)
c) there are situations where violence against the wife (or any spouse really) is warranted or acceptable (what the hell is wrong with you?)
d) you believe any judge would grant custody to a parent who is guilty of domestic violence (what the hell is wrong with you?)
e) you believe referring to her as "a bitch" is acceptable in any context (what the hell is wrong with you?)
f) you feel the woman should be blamed for her husband's violence (what the hell is wrong with you?)
It's fair to say that I don't just believe you are a misogynist.
I believe you are a dangerous misogynist who should simply never go near any woman. At all. Ever.
EVER!
Domestic violence falls under the umbrella of misogyny.
At this stage, the only advice I can give you is to please seek help.
Jesus fucking christ!
No. Just no.
Umm no.
I don't see what you can see because I am not a fucking psycho.
You will be hard pressed to find my saying that rape of men in jail is acceptable or part of their punishment.
Far from it.
Why do you believe they are mutually exclusive?
Men do not lose their fundamental human rights if women have fundamental human rights.
Bells
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We've moved from women need to learn how to take a joke to it being somehow understandable if a wife is beaten by her husband because she chose to get out of the house at her will... Because apparently leaving the house without the husband's permission is a breach of the marriage contract...
Yea, it’s just not worth it imo to respond to them, anymore. *shrug*
I have Jan on ignore but soon others will be added, at this rate.
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Bells
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No you haven't.
Not at all. Why can't you answer it?
Where?
Where do you think I am lying?
But you are sexist..
This is well established in this thread, Mr the husband is the head of the wife/household/marriage..
This has already been linked. Numerous times. Remember your comments about black people, Jan? Such as this one? Or your whine that black people were granted their fundamental human rights?
Jan, the writing in regards to your posts were on the wall well before she made that point.
You are the one who clearly lied.
As I pointed out in regards to your accusing me of being the one who brought up belief, when I actually had not, but was instead responding to your comment about it.
You do it constantly.
Because you are so dishonest, you are incapable of actually answering any questions, so you change the subject and troll. It's what you do.
Because you agreed that the bible sets the tone for behaviour. I sought your opinion on something else in the bible. Why can't you answer it?
Do you disagree with it? The bible clearly states that one should stone one's son to death if one's son disobeys his father and does not heed the words of his mother. Do you agree with this? Yes or no?
You've forgotten the earlier discussion in this thread where you tried to argue what constituted rape and what did not? Go to the part where people having sex outside of marriage are stoned to death..
This was already provided. Numerous times. That you don't believe you are a misogynist or sexist is not my problem.
You do it all the time. You did it in your last few responses to me.
It's how you troll.
Jan.. I don't know a single person who would read this:
http://www.sciforums.com/threads/religion-and-women.163938/page-69#post-3668016
And who would not declare him a misogynist. I know several who would suggest a level of sociopathy here as well..
In other words, yes, he is a misogynist Jan. He's actually worse than you!
It doesn’t matter what I think.
Unless you have more information, those women and men that were killed in witch trials were considered, witches
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I love your joke. I didn't realized women are funny too. Mine is so serious, but I think she never laughs of my jokes because she never understand them... I got married to her because others who know her told me she was a serious person, and they were right... she never even smiles when we make love.
God never identified himself as woman or as female, but man and male.
Even the son, Jesus called him "Father".
You see, perhaps other religions besides the biblical might have goddess, but the known main religions from ancient eras, the whole of them identify their primary deity as manly, male.
So be it.
You won't change that with whatever argument you want to invent. Such inheritance has been established forever, forever ever.
But, you can create your new religion, the XXI century religion where the goddess created a new era (because the universe has been created already by a manly male god, so your are late to create the universe again.)
Make your new religion and spread it throughout all around the world, so you can satisfy your inquiries.
I have done.
She is acting emotional, so I’m calling her out.
I’ve just told you.
Why is that sexist?
What is the accusation regarding these posts?
Show me what you mean
This is the point “belief came into the picture...
“The irony is that you have spent these past 66 pages trying to tell Wegs what she should believe.”
...the sad thing is that you don’t care that you lie.
You don’t care if it causes any damage to people.
In fact it seems as though harming people who do not agree with you, or don’t back down to you, is the objective. The scary thing is that it has become a mindset. Very sad
You really do have a problem Bells.
I’m beginning to think you are being serious with these false accusations
I can answer it, but not with you, or any Snowflake.
Stick to the topic, you’re too emotional to discuss anything like that, and it’s not because you’re a woman. I don’t discuss God, outside of the preliminaries, with James, bilvon, Sarkus, etc
It can’t be that important if you can’t be bothered to fetch it.
No it wasn’t Bells.
You just felt like backing a liar. Probably because the lies were aimed at me. God haters have a problem with me.
Just empty, false accusations Bells. Pitiful
You need some new material
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