This forum and the way it is run has not turned realitycheck into an attacker - he was like that before he registered here (he was previously banned from another forum for exactly this behaviour by his own admission). The problem he is having with the physics and maths forum stems from his belief that everyone's opinion is equally valid. Maybe that is true in some places, but it is certainly not the case in physics and hard science in general. For example, the opinions of a person who has never really studied physics since leaving school, has spent time and money publishing a book that he couldn't get published in any physics journals, and has continually shown he does not understand the simplest aspects of GR cannot be given the same weight as someone's who has studied physics and maths at university level for 5+ years, and now works in physics research (there are a number of people who meet this criteria in the membership here).
Of course, prior achievements really mean nothing here so take a look at what people have said. AN, pryzk, ben the man, rpenner and others have shown in their postings that they are thoughtful, intelligent and well informed in many aspects of science and physics in particular. Look at the posts of farsight on the other hand and you will see vague, vacuous and downright incorrect statements about incredibly simple physics. I'm not going to apologise for pointing this out.
Crackpots will always complain about being told they are wrong. If they can't keep up with the science then this type of outrage us usually next on the list.
How self-serving can a supposed scientist get?
What "admission"?
The only 'admission' was pointing out that the usual Troll-Mod combination tactic for closing threads and banning people is what happened over there as well as over here. That straight now?
The only 'admission' was that the problem lay with just exactly what YOU have just done with that post of yours which is biased and self-serving rationalization and characterization according to YOUR totally personally-motivated face-saving attempt at blaming the injured party and making all sorts of 'generalizations' and 'associations' aimed at 'framing' while avoiding actually facing the truth of the facts HERE.
Face it, prom, you are HUMAN and so come with all the human foibles and proclivities for ego and power-hunger over others at any cost. Resist it. You are supposed to be a MODERATOR and SCIENTIST not a common run-of-the-mill self-deluding and fact-twisting 'personal politics' exponent of the lowest order.
Everyone, please take with a grain of salt anything these self-serving so-called moderators are telling you about me. They are 'incestuously inter-connected' in a 'clique' who act in concert with their troll sockpuppets and 'friends' to 'personalize' and avoid the scientific questions put by me.
They CLOSE THREADS using the mods-trolls combination tactics which you have witnessed for yourselves more than once already....and then they have the gall to blame me and cast me as the bad guy.
How self-serving can they get?
prometheus, I have lost all respect for you as a scientist, moderator and human being. You are self-seving and do not have regard and respect for the facts of the matter concerned. Else you would not have posted such mendacious and twisted version of what is what in this matter.
I was right to question your and other mods' genuineness and impartiality. You have demonstrated with your behaviour and self-serving 'versions' exactly the point I was making about untrustworthy moderation on the internet forums. It seems to be a disease which afflicts humans when they get a whiff of mod-power over their victims. No self-restraint at all. Just raw abuse of tin-pot tyrant power at its most shameful for a supposed scientist and science site.
Any wonder and surprise why we are all having this discussion? No. If the mods were actually impartial and fair, they would fix THEIR PROBLEMS before blaming their victims of gross dereliction of both mod and scientific duty.....as exemplified by your and other mod recent ineptitude in dealing with those trolls who are the problem....and without whom you would have no 'excuse' to victimize me by closing threads etc which YOU and they conspired to derail and get closed. Obviously for all to see.
Mate, look to your own motives and failings before twisting and contorting self-servingly to point the finger at the victim.
What are the odds you will do this? We live in hope!
Everyone: Don't fall for the lie promulgated by the 'incestuous circle' of troll-mod combinations to snow you. They are human and have faults which are all too obvious by now. They lie and twist things to excuse their own faults and blame the victim as a distraction from the need to correct their own behaviour and faults.
Believe nothing they say unless you have actually got all the facts and not just their 'version' of them.
RealityCheck.
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I don't see how realitychecks most recent thread could have been dealt with any differently. RC posted the OP and then in every one of his subsequent posts complained about various people trolling, which then instigated people pointing out that realitycheck was trolling and evading which of course led to the total breakdown of the thread. At no point did I get emotional about it, and I seriously doubt that AN did either. We both have pretty busy lives - for my part I am busy with work and preparing to move house in a few weeks so any activity on an internet forum is really not that high up my priority list I'm sorry to say...
The very fact that you DON'T see that you could have handled it differently is quite telling of either your motives or your incompetent/presumptious way of 'doing moderation'.
I more than once piinted out the troll INTENT and TACTIC but YOU just took the 'excuse' to close the thread and blame ME instead of getting rid of the trolls/spoilers and their posts.
How pathetic is your admission that you didn't see any other way than what you did there!
The mod-troll combination is evident to all now. You have nowhere to hide and make pathetic excuses for YOUR dereliction of duty.
Perhaps if you and AN had LESS 'busy' lives you would have MORE TIME to take GREATER CARE over your mod duties/actions?
Obviously if you weren't TOO BUSY to take all the facts into evidence, and so perforce merely skim through with BIASED and PRECONCEIVED views, you would NOTICE the pattern of troll-mod tactics which get a thread closed by manipulating you and the system because YOU DON'T HAVE the time to spare to do a PROPER MOD JOB instead of a slapdash and destructive 'PUT UP JOB' which satisfies YOUR purposes but does nothing but damage to the science and the site and the posters who are the victims of tyour dereliction of duty BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO BUSY to do the mod job properly and fairly. BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION ABOVE, hey?
Mate, if you don't have the time to spend doing something PROPERLY and with due diligence, then DON'T PUT YOURSELF FORWARD as if you are doing it properly. You are not doing it properly because you don't have the time and inclination to do it properly. You just effectively admitted that above. So you just kneejerk and bias FOR trolls AGAINST genuine posters/discussion threads. Hence the closure instead of doing your job properly and getting rid of the trolls who are the problem in the first instance.
Do your job properly or give up the position which you are 'too busy' to give proper attention and fairness of mind to doing. Not an unreasonable view is it?
None of this would have arisen here or elsewhere if the mod-troll combination tactic for closing threads and banning questions/people was not RIFE at certain internet forums supposedly standing for science and fair discourse. It is YOU and your kind of mod-troll combined actions which create the problems, not me. If you had left the thread alone and just got rid of the troll posts (in one case YOUR OWN 'intimidatory' attempts to prevent free response to my OP as stated), then we wouldn't be having this conversation and we wouldn't need to see your pathetic attempt at blaming and framing the victim while you let the real trolls get away scot free with manipulating you into closing the thread (as usual) instead of triggering you to do your job properly and fairly. Good luck with that in the future, mate!
RealityCheck.
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