Real Reason for Attacking Iraq

He who lives by the gun ... gets run over by a tank. If that's not your happy ending, don't be a soldier I suppose?
 
the Devil Inside, I wasn't aware the Ruble was traded as a international currency at that time, from what I know because I did some stocks traides from that time frame, you received hard good that were then sold on the market and that is how you made your money, the Ruble never had international standing.
 
cool skill said:
Why? What is the point?


Like One Raven put it ..fear is the greatest motivator and creates mindless followers ..and this has been going on for ages...

Look at Middle ages when they used to torture Witches, recently in US Whites were brainwashed into believing that giving Blacks the power to vote will allow them to enter homes of whites and rape their wives and daughters ..

It is very calculated process ..create a Boggeyman
List of some of them are as follow ( not limited to what I have mentioned below)
1. Non Xians(Past)
2. Witches/Magic (Past)
3. Non Whites(Recent)
4. Russians(Recent)
5. Osama Bin Laden/Al CIA DA/ Terrorists(Current)
6. Virus Threat(Future)
7. Meteor ( Future)
8. UFO/Aliens( Future)

And the by-product is they create these huge corporations which eat away the rights of the people by bribing the elected officials to go along with their scewed foreign policies ..for bigger bonus.

Why is US obsessed with Wars...on drugs, terror, communist, ..it brain washes people into going along with any ridiculous spending in the name of security ... who has benefitted from the war in Iraq ..troops? American people? Iraqis? Middle east? Muslims? Xians? ....no I don't think so ...

It is the corporations like Halliburton, Bechtel, GE, Lockheed martin, Exxon... but when anyone opposes the war ..hey you don't support the troops :rolleyes:
 
Vega said:
right now its the violent democracy taking shape just as genji would like it!!.
its ok for iraqi's to blow themselves up in a market or bus,..but if one little american or non-moslem person kills one of their people, you start to hear a bunch of rheotric from genji's all over the muslim world!!
well said.
let's also not forget how many civilian wounded have been boobytrapped by iraqi insurgents. when our medical corps tried to help them they got blown to bits along with the wounded civilian, and of course it's americas fault.

these iraqis manipulate propaganda with the skill of a german.
 
I think the US cannot exist without wars or conflict. Because it has created this big mammoth (PENTAGON/FBI/ARMY) it needs to feed...and the hunger is ever growing...Is there any justification for having 20000 Nuclear missiles ..which can destroy the life on earth over 10 times ... no ..Oil cannot be the reason ..because US could have given 1 trillion dollar in tax breaks to Oil companies ...which would have been enough to keep them alive for next 20 years ..This is all because US ( mind you not Bush not democrats) is a slave to the big Military Industrial complex ... you will see many 911s to justify this spending every time there is a cut in defence budget ..this will continue till the CIA and FBI is dismantled from the current form and a more transparent agency is created with check and balances without any black ops funding..

Huh?? The FBI wants war??
Our Army is smaller than China's or N. Korea's so according to your logic we must get ready as they want to invade!

We dont have 20000 missiles. (maybe you mean warheads??)
No that cant be right either. We have 5735 active warheads and 4,225 in non-opperational/reserve stockpiles. By 2012 the entire active/reserve stockpile will be down to 5,945 warheads. Either way you are off by a minimum of 10,000 Warheads. Misslewise you have 500 ICBMs and by 2008 336 SLBMs (Trident IIs).
http://www.thebulletin.org/article_nn.php?art_ofn=jf06norris

1 Trillion in tax cuts?? Do you have anything to back up this claim with?
Military Industrial complex?? You do realize that the biggest companies in the US are non-military right??
Dismantle the FBI and the CIA?? What does the FBI have to do with this?? No black Ops?? I guess the FBI/CIA should send you an email everyday detailing what they are up to.

Genji you need a serious reality check.
 
The purpose of the war in Iraq is to get the manufacturers of war materials rich off their ass by the American publics debt, so we can't even pay for this war.

Plus, all the corporations in Iraq are gonna Americanize the whole fucking place, they have the green dough rolling, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.
 
manmadeflyingsaucer said:
The purpose of the war in Iraq is to get the manufacturers of war materials rich off their ass by the American publics debt, so we can't even pay for this war.
if the war cannot be paid for then how are the "manufacturers of war materials" going to get "rich off their ass"?
 
cool skill said:
If it is not weapons of mass destruction.
If it is not retaliation to 911 which Iraq had nothing to do with.
Why did America attack Iraq during desert storm?
Why was Bill Clinton trying to use the justification of non-existent weapons of mass destruction to attack Iraq?

We know it is not to take down a dictatorship. There are lots of countries with worse political stryfe than Iraq.

Therefore, what is the real reason America wanted to attack Iraq from the beginning?
Is it true that the government needs to create an enemy just for the sake of having an enemy?

The real reason for attacking and destroying Iraq and it's people, is that we currently have a real 'crazy' at the helm. :D
 
Buffalo Roam said:
the Devil Inside, I wasn't aware the Ruble was traded as a international currency at that time, from what I know because I did some stocks traides from that time frame, you received hard good that were then sold on the market and that is how you made your money, the Ruble never had international standing.
http://www.aci.net/Kalliste/wanta.htm
everything you need: resources for verification, names, addresses, and telephone numbers to doublecheck the facts on your own are included in that link.

just because you couldnt buy rubles doesnt mean NOBODY could.
 
Vega said:
right now its the violent democracy taking shape just as genji would like it!!.
its ok for iraqi's to blow themselves up in a market or bus,..but if one little american or non-moslem person kills one of their people, you start to hear a bunch of rheotric from genji's all over the muslim world!!


Wanna stop Terrorism? Wanna stop the Islamic world from the desire to burn everything western? Wanna stop the bombers in Israel? I can tell you how.... Ready...It's not hard...here's what you need to do....

LEAVE THE ALONE!!! STOP FUCKING WITH THEM AND THERE LANDS!!! STOP STEALING THERE OIL. JUST LEAVE THEM BE!!! IT'S REALLY JUST THAT SIMPLE.​
 
Mr. Wanta wasn't senticed to 22 years, and his competency is in question and most of the story come from him from behind bars.

On November 20, 1995, the court sentenced Wanta to two years in
prison on Counts 3 through 6, to run consecutively, for a total of eight years and
imposed a six-year consecutive probation sentence on Counts 1 and 2. On June 3,
1996, the court ordered Wanta to reimburse the State Public Defender $4,167.64
for the cost of legal representation. The court also ordered Wanta to pay
restitution of $24,900.91, which did not include Wanta’s payment of $14,129
applied to a civil fraud penalty. On January 23, 1998, the court reduced the total
restitution to $14,128.10 because the original amount erroneously included
interest. The court denied Wanta’s postconviction motions, and this appeal
followed.

On June 24, 1994, the court ordered a second competency
evaluation, after Chavez filed a motion asserting that Wanta was unable to assist in
his own defense. At the second competency hearing on July 13, 1994, Dr. David
Mays concluded that Wanta was incompetent. Dr. Mays noted Wanta’s grandiose
and unbelievable claims and doubted whether Wanta could “transcend his
delusional disorder to the extent that he is able to work with his attorney to
provide a plausible defense to present in court.”

On February 3, 1995, the court held a fourth
competency hearing. Prior to the hearing, the court, counsel for the State and
counsel for Wanta all had received a report from Dr. Lee, who had recently
examined Wanta. Both the State and Wanta’s attorney waived the opportunity to
present additional evidence. Wanta continued to maintain he was competent.
Relying on an evaluation letter from Dr. Lee, who was of the opinion that Wanta
could appreciate the charges against him, assist in his own defense, and if found
guilty, understand the consequences, the court found Wanta competent to proceed
to trial, thereby releasing him from commitment to DHSS.


No. 98-0318-CR
STATE OF WISCONSIN IN COURT OF APPEALS
STATE OF WISCONSIN,
PLAINTIFF-RESPONDENT,
V.
LEO E. WANTA,
DEFENDANT-APPELLANT.

APPEAL from a judgment and orders of the circuit court for Dane
County: MICHAEL B. TORPHY, Judge. Affirmed.
Before Vergeront, Roggensack and Deininger, JJ.
ROGGENSACK, J. Leo Wanta appeals from his conviction of two
counts of intentionally filing false and fraudulent Wisconsin individual income tax
returns with intent to evade the income tax due in violation of § 71.83(2)(b)1.,
STATS., and four counts of intentionally concealing property upon which levy was
authorized with the intent to evade the collection of taxes in violation of
§ 71.83(2)(b)3. Wanta claims that his conviction should be overturned for the
following reasons: (1) Section 971.14(4)(b), STATS., unconstitutionally requires
proof of incompetence by clear and convincing evidence when an accused claims
he is competent; (2) the evidence does not support his convictions; (3) venue was
improperly maintained in Dane County; (4) the circuit court failed to give the jury
sufficient instructions to afford him a fair trial; (5) he was denied the effective
assistance of counsel; (6) he was denied counsel of his choice; and (7) he has paid
the amount owed. We conclude that no appealable error was committed and
therefore, we affirm.

CONCLUSION
For the forgoing reasons, we conclude that Wanta’s convictions were
based on constitutional statutes, credible evidence, proper performance of defense
counsel and reasonable decisions of the circuit court.
By the Court.—Judgment and orders affirmed.
 
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guy, you have no idea of what you are talking about. this has been a pet research project of mine for years.

at any rate, i have more important things to pay attention to right now. namely, a john stamos movie that just came on canal twee....
johnstamoswithmullet.jpg
 
yeah, i take your word for it because it is something you have followed for 3 years, not me.

moron. just because you can google something doesnt make you an expert.
he. is. confined. to. his. home. in. switzerland. he. was. extradited. and. subsequently. released. years. ago. on. his. tax. evasion. charge. learn. to. learn. instead. of. spitting. rhetoric.

or would that be a little too much "putting your ass on the line"? god, you remind me of happeh.
 
cool skill said:
Therefore, what is the real reason America wanted to attack Iraq from the beginning?

Israel, the Israeli lobby, and the far-right Christian lobby.
 
Locations of inmates and related offender information can be found by contacting the DOC Records Office at (608) 240-3750.
 
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