Ramadan Mubarak!

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S.A.M. said:
[except in places like the US where Muslims are one of the most highly educated communities, especially the women] and boast of their inability to keep their minds on prayer when confronted by a woman's behind! :rolleyes:
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well, that's maybe because they are not busy with getting drunk abd being barby girls and stuff. :)

And yet Muslims in general have a poor record when it comes to education
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nope, not all budy, tunisia's education is even better than france's, or ecaul, but we just not that rich as france, also here, all eucation, from school to univercity is free, and primary and secondary schools, are obligotry, in past, any parent who don't let he's children go to school, go to jail, or pay alooot of money :p
anyway, many arabs come to tunisia to study (wich i don't know why) also france and the rest of europe are boiling with tunisian students, the top students of maths in france, are all tunisians, tunisia always get between the top 3 places in the world maths olympyad.
you may say, why did i say tunisia's educational system is stronger than france's, because most people who can't find them selves doing very good in here, go to france, and their, become a docotor or something, here to find a job, you must do your best in univercity;,to get your job faster, or you can just start with a small buisness and start growing it.
tunisia is just a model from the muslims countries, because i know it more, but it's not the only arab, or muslim country, also malysia is a good country in education i think, also u.a.e i think, and jordan, and and and... never loose hope ;)
 
Shadow1 said:
well, that's maybe because they are not busy with getting drunk abd being barby girls and stuff. :)
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Are you seriously accusing all Muslim American women of being drunk barbies? :mad:

This week Gallup released a report on one of the most extensive surveys of Muslim Americans, in combination with two other Gallup polls. The report is titled “Muslim Americans: A National Portrait" and includes findings from the first-ever nationwide representative random sample of Muslim Americans (in the Gallup Daily Poll), as well as from Gallup-Healthways Well-Being Index, and Gallup World Poll. The Gallup Center for Muslim Studies conducted the study as part of its Muslim West Facts project to “explore Muslim Americans' attitudes on issues ranging from emotional well-being, political views, the economy, and the importance of faith in the lives of Muslims living in America.”

The study finds that Muslim Americans are the most racially diverse religious group surveyed in the United States, with African Americans making up the largest group at 35%., followed by Whites at 28%, and Asians at 18%. The survey found that one of the ethnic groups, Asian-Americans (from India and Pakistan) not only have more income and education than other Muslim Americans, but that their quality of life indicators are higher than for most other Americans, except for American Jews. It finds that as a whole, Muslim Americans are among the most highly educated religious groups in the US.

This educational level applies to Muslim women as well as men. One of the most significant findings of the survey was that contrary to common perceptions, American Muslim women are more likely than American Muslim men to have college and post-graduate degrees. Additionally, they are more highly educated than women in every other religious group except Jews, with 43% of Muslim American women holding a college or postgraduate degree, compared with 29% of American women overall. Muslim American women also are as likely as Muslim men to have a profession, with 30% in professional work and 25% self employed. They also report incomes more nearly equal to men, compared with women and men of other faiths, and attend mosque as frequently as Muslim men.

The study also shows that Muslim Americans are quite religious, with 80% saying that religion is an important part of their daily lives - more than any other group except Mormons (85%) in comparison to Americans in general at 65%. However, their rate of weekly worship attendance is comparable to other religious groups at 41%.

Muslim’s political participation has risen in recent years, but still falls behind that of other groups with 64% of Muslims registered to vote compared with 81% of the general population. By political ideology, Muslims were spread across the spectrum from liberal to conservative, with about 4 in 10 saying they were moderates. By party identification, about half are Democrats, a third independents with small minorities registered as Republicans. 79% voted for Barack Obama, the highest percentage of any religious group.

But at the same time, the report finds that when asked to evaluate their lives as well as their expectations of where they think they will be in five years, only 41% of Muslim Americans reported that they considered to be "thriving," the lowest percentage among the religious groups studied in the U.S. However, “when comparing the percentage of ‘thriving’ Muslim Americans with Muslims in other Western societies as well as those in predominantly Muslim countries, Muslim Americans are among the groups with the largest percentage of respondents who say they are thriving.


http://www.oismidwest.org/statement-on-galluppoll.htm
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The only thing you can accuse them of is low expectations.
 
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no s.a.m.
i didnt mean that, i meant, most muslims don't drink wines or get drunk or spend all time at having fun in nightclubs and biys, so i meant they concentrate more on study or work.the same thing for men
you know i never say such things like you thoght i said
 
oh my!:( i knew this day'll come..i was hoping to dely the traditionalists vs. liberals showdown to a time when it'll be expected to bring more good than harm..i'm not sure that time nor place have come.

should we focus on the thread title and put this whole thing in the freezer for now sam?:)
 
Shadow1 said:
no s.a.m.
i didnt mean that, i meant, most muslims don't drink wines or get drunk or spend all time at having fun in nightclubs and biys, so i meant they concentrate more on study or work.the same thing for men
you know i never say such things like you thoght i said
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Sorry, my bad!

scifes said:
oh my!:( i knew this day'll come..i was hoping to dely the traditionalists vs. liberals showdown to a time when it'll be expected to bring more good than harm..i'm not sure that time nor place have come.

should we focus on the thread title and put this whole thing in the freezer for now sam?:)
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Okay but just for now. :bugeye:
 
Pakistani Muslim outside the Badshahi Mosque [Imperial Mosque]

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Praying the tarawih in Ramadan:

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A Syrian dancer during Ramadan festivities:

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Mod note: Yet again (Q) attempts to hijack this thread, so I’ve moved all of (Q)’s posts regarding his perceived subjugation of women during Ramadan (and associated replies) to a separate thread here.

I regard this thread to be a genuine attempt to celebrate some wonderful cultural diversity with some amazing images and personal experiences. It was never an attempt to generate arguments regarding religious issues or women’s rights and does not deserve to be trashed. If you have issues that you want to debate, take them to a separate thread in the appropriate forum.
 
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