Proposal: Quran detailing stuff impossible to know without modern scientific gear

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Shit. Well, I'm not going after it, unless a quarter falls in also.
 
I hope this thread is interesting and not a total waste of time. Please no "stages" of embryology or medicinal honey either!
 
So maybe we can clarify something. If I show that something in the Quran is wrong, does that negate the examples that appears to show anamolous knowledge?
 
So maybe we can clarify something. If I show that something in the Quran is wrong, does that negate the examples that appears to show anamolous knowledge?
Yeah, this is a key issue that needs to be clarified before the debate starts. Is anyone going to be impressed if out of a thousand "scientific" claims 1 turns out to be "amazingly" correct and 999 are wrong?

I could write a book right now making all sorts of scientific predictions that no one today could possible know, but that will be verified as correct in the future...so long as no one cares about my success rate. If scifes only needs to pull one scientifically-correct fact from the Quran with no regard for the overall scientific accuracy in order to win the debate, then I don't think it's going to be of much interest to anyone. Even a stopped clock is right twice per day.
 
nasor said:
If scifes only needs to pull one scientifically-correct fact from the Quran with no regard for the overall scientific accuracy in order to win the debate, then I don't think it's going to be of much interest to anyone
No worries. There isn't a single thing in that book matching the OP claims.
 
This proposal is now 10 days old.

Are there any agreed debaters to take on scifes?
Is there an agreed format for the debate?
 
So maybe we can clarify something. If I show that something in the Quran is wrong, does that negate the examples that appears to show anamolous knowledge?
that's interesting, yet complex, but;
not within the op, this debate IS easy for me spider, all i need to do is give one scientific fact given in the quran which is impossible to be found under the conditions the quran was written in, i.e without modern scientific gear..:eek:
No worries. There isn't a single thing in that book matching the OP claims.
hah, says the one who forfeited.:rolleyes:
I'm ready now. I don't know about the format.
check #8 and confirm.

and btw, now i'm the one who's busy, i've got a fat ass assignment on my plate, but i DO have 3 days to reply to any post, if you agree to my format of course.
 
that's interesting, yet complex, but;
not within the op, this debate IS easy for me spider, all i need to do is give one scientific fact given in the quran which is impossible to be found under the conditions the quran was written in, i.e without modern scientific gear..:eek:

hah, says the one who forfeited.:rolleyes:

check #8 and confirm.

and btw, now i'm the one who's busy, i've got a fat ass assignment on my plate, but i DO have 3 days to reply to any post, if you agree to my format of course.

I agree to the format. My only other concern is that the quote from the Quran be specific. In other words, it cannot simply be a poetic verse that you happen to interpret as referring to an aspect of modern science.
 
scifes, iceaura did not forfeit. We've discussed this.
Whoa - apparently I've been missing out on something important. I got the PM, but didn't understand what it meant, sorry.

Re the challenge - I forfeit. Life is short.



I agree to the format. My only other concern is that the quote from the Quran be specific. In other words, it cannot simply be a poetic verse that you happen to interpret as referring to an aspect of modern science.
alright, i'm working on my first post, if you want to beat me to it with some introduction or comments or anything, i don't mind.

\feeling REAL nervous:bawl:
 
So, let me summarise:

Topic: The Qur'an details scientific facts that are impossible to know without modern scientific equipement.
Affirmative side: scifes
Negative side: spidergoat

Format:

10 posts for each debater.
After each post, the other debater has 3 days to post his next post otherwise he forfeits (unless allowed extra time by his opponent).

Anything to add to that?

Since scifes is arguing the affirmative case, he should open a Debate thread and post his first post. Also, please start a Discussion thread for the topic.
 
Where's the debate thread, scifes? How about we agree if you don't post something by Feb. 20, I win by default?
 
well i do not agree :)
i'm busier than you can imagine, and am not so hot on starting this crooked from the beginning, but way to go with the pressure, you'd better make me regret this.
 
The debate has now started:

[thread=99739]Debate thread[/thread]
[thread=99741]Discussion thread[/thread]
 
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