Putting me as a robot.

gamelord

gamelord

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Okay, to make this quick, I have some experience making robots, but no cash. This project will require an engineer and biologist.

To make it short, I got health problems, and depression. My back always aches. And there are some things about my body I do not like and make me dissassociate.

I think I am transsexual, because I hate being male and if I was a robot, I would be a female robot. But there is also the "cool" factor of being different from everyone else, as a robot I would be famous and finally people on talk shows would listen to my reasonable views.


So in short, I experience physical pain at my aching body. I want a surgery where my brain and spine is removed from my body and put into a robot body. My robot body will provide the exact same sensations as a human body, since it is connected to my spine. I will even have taste sensors to still enjoy food. When someone touches me I will feel like a real human being since all of the wires will be inserted into my spine. I will also have a boost in IQ sense I can have calculators connected to my brain. I can also put USB chords into my brain to interface with the internet.

This is real and I want it to happen. What is the estimated amount of years before this can be done for me? My body is in a lot of pain and I want to know how long I have to hold on.



I have some transhuman friends, and transsexual friends. I am cool with my transsexual friends but some of my transhuman friends frighten me. This is because, my transhuman friends think it is cool to trap us inside of a giant simulation. They hate their human bodies and desperately want to trap themselves inside a computer. Thus my robot idea shall placate them, they shall still be human, but in robot bodies, so they are still connected to the real world and not lost souls forever trapped inside the virtual realms. Thus I think my robot idea is important to placate the transhumans, otherwise they may start trapping people inside of virtual reality, instead of realspace. My robot idea aims to be natural and still keep human beings within the real world.
 
gamelord said:
. . I want a surgery where my brain and spine is removed from my body and put into a robot body. My robot body will provide the exact same sensations as a human body, since it is connected to my spine. . . .I have some transhuman friends, and transsexual friends. I am cool with my transsexual friends but some of my transhuman friends frighten me. This is because, my transhuman friends think it is cool to trap us inside of a giant simulation.
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I saw that movie. Sort of farfetched.
 
gamelord said:
My robot body will provide the exact same sensations as a human body, since it is connected to my spine
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Building a robot with the same sensory abilities as a biological organisms would seem an almost impossible task.
a) you would have to have millions of sensory feelers to experience touch.
b) you would not need food as your body runs on electricity.

All this means that the subconscious interoceptive control mechanisms of the brain become useless.
Mixing biological with non-biological assets presents an inherent problem which may be very difficult to overcome.
This may explain further:
https://www.ted.com/talks/anil_seth_how_your_brain_hallucinates_your_conscious_reality
 
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gamelord said:
This is real and I want it to happen. What is the estimated amount of years before this can be done for me?
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80-100 - but the sensory input and fine muscle control will be limited.
Unless the global economy or the WWW break down, or massive storms take down too much infrastructure or there is a big war or pandemic. Any of those cataclysmic events can break the flow of technological advancement.
 
Also, assume that the first recipients of a ground-breaking technology will be vetted to be the most healthy and suitable and low-risk for complications.
Enough can go wrong with things like this that they would pick the one in a million people who are most likely to have it take without complications.
Only after it's been proven in-the-field for many years will they start casting a wider net for higher-risk recipients.
 
Write4U said:
Building a robot with the same sensory abilities as a biological organisms would seem an almost impossible task.
a) you would have to have millions of sensory feelers to experience touch.
b) you would not need food as your body runs on electricity.

All this means that the subconscious interoceptive control mechanisms of the brain become useless.
Mixing biological with non-biological assets presents an inherent problem which may be very difficult to overcome.
This may explain further:
https://www.ted.com/talks/anil_seth_how_your_brain_hallucinates_your_conscious_reality
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Millions of kilobytes of data seemed like a near impossible task in the old days, but now it is just a breeze.

Yes from a surgical standpoint, it seems dangerous and ardous to have to hook up a dying nervous system to a machine before it falls into necrosis. But what if you put me into some fluid, a vat of sorts, full of life-liquid, to prevent or delay me from dying, and then put me into the machine that way so my organs do not die. And this machine is so precise that it gets the electric circuits into the exact right circuits of my spine.

I also saw the hallucination video, don't see how it pertains.
Cause what I'm seeing is me, a brain and spine, dying, but in a vat of life-fluids to prevent necrosis. And the machine puts me into a robot body. Assuming this works before I die, and I am in a robot body, my brain would be the same. So my consciousness would be almost the same as before.
If anything the video says it can be done.
Because in the video they put a fake plastic hand, and the brain recognizes it as a real hand.

Food, it is that I need food to stay sane. So I could have tastebuds to enjoy the pleasure of food, even though I do not need it. And after I eat the food, I can send it to homeless people.
 
Jeeves said:
80-100 - but the sensory input and fine muscle control will be limited.
Unless the global economy or the WWW break down, or massive storms take down too much infrastructure or there is a big war or pandemic. Any of those cataclysmic events can break the flow of technological advancement.
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80-100 years seems like a long time. I had hopes it would be faster.

DaveC426913 said:
Also, assume that the first recipients of a ground-breaking technology will be vetted to be the most healthy and suitable and low-risk for complications.
Enough can go wrong with things like this that they would pick the one in a million people who are most likely to have it take without complications.
Only after it's been proven in-the-field for many years will they start casting a wider net for higher-risk recipients.
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But if someone is terminally ill or very old, then they should be the first test subject because they have nothing to lose and only uphill from there.

I view it like this. When you are inventing, you don't try your first experiments with the finest materials, you try cheap materials and then for the final product test it with fine materials.
 
gamelord said:
But if someone is terminally ill or very old, then they should be the first test subject because they have nothing to lose and only uphill from there.

I view it like this. When you are inventing, you don't try your first experiments with the finest materials, you try cheap materials and then for the final product test it with fine materials.
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Sure, in situations where they can throw away the first tries until they get it right. The cheap materials are experimental animals.

You can't experiment with people, accepting a certain amount of failures before getting it right. The first one has to go right.
 
DaveC426913 said:
Sure, in situations where they can throw away the first tries until they get it right. The cheap materials are experimental animals.

You can't experiment with people, accepting a certain amount of failures before getting it right. The first one has to go right.
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If they are terminally ill or very old what is the difference they can only go uphill from there.

As scientists we must distance ourselves from the meek (and often hypocritical) moral musings of the pop majority.

In terms of morality, morally speaking if someone is terminally ill, you are doing them a favor by giving them a chance of life. Morally speaking there is nothing wrong. Logically speaking there is nothing wrong. Only the meek outcries of a morally confused hysterical public and its egregious lawmakers.
 
gamelord said:
As scientists we must distance ourselves from the meek (and often hypocritical) moral musings of the pop majority.
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Ummm... Let's not go down that philosophical water-slide.

In terms of morality, morally speaking if someone is terminally ill, you are doing them a favor by giving them a chance of life. Morally speaking there is nothing wrong. Logically speaking there is nothing wrong.
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This is true, so long as it involves fully informed, autonomous adults who consent freely.
Only the meek outcries of a morally confused hysterical public and its egregious lawmakers.
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This, oth, is inflammatory rhetoric. Tone it down to a well-reasoned, cogently argued proposed wording for new legislation.
 
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Throbber said:
You tell us Gamelord. YOU have developed the concept. Do you think it is possible?
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Possible but dangerous.

And what have the terminally ill got to lose? If anything it is unethical to deny this treatment to terminally ill/suicidal/old people.
 
Later in the Dune series of books there are, "Titans" whose disembodied brains are placed in jars which can each then be placed in a robot of their choosing. As suggested by Sweatpea the jars contain an advanced fluid which can conduct the brain's activity to power the robots they reside within. There is also an advanced race of Monks who can understand the brains by touching the jars. ☺
 
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