Psychosis ~What is it?

Quantum Quack said:
well said and what I have come to realise is that fear of the unknown can only be tempered by understanding the unknown. It is only with understanding the event properly that the fear based reactions to that event can be brought down to an acceptable level naturally.

Unfortnately because we shut the door on understanding by deeming it mere fiction the fear continues to persist and thus so too do the reactions to that fear.

The whole reason for this thread is about understanding or the search for answers after all.
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Yes, THAT very "fear" Deemed Alchemy "evil" and autopsies Blasphemous... And Blah..
I Figure this, I know What I am Afraid of.... And I know What I wish to NOT experience.
But I alone have the Power to Use the Experience at Hand to Better myself... And Tell Others because some times it's just TO Damn Unreal.. :)
 
MetaKron said:
All of these things have this in common: The people who have the beliefs feel that it is right to invade other people's lives and attempt to control them.
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Do you mind if I add on to this here?....

I think you too have an amazing insight, no matter what we think... I'm pretty serous. I like what you said. I like it because it was good, but bad. It is what everyone thinks about. Everyone, at least MOST people imo, have this same ideas rolling around in their head, their 'psyche' right... And it's reallly pretty simple: It is how people are, all people have the same basic core, if we call it, the same basic "fundament", right....

They do, and and when you said
All of these things have this in common
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After all "all of these things" is what the thread is. You agree? ... What am I saying....

All of these things, all of the world!

All of the ideas, all the killer ness ;)

You do know, my last name is Killingsworth? That's a first!
However you do know that the seccond part of your post, metakron,... is that this is how people are---must be, and can be no other way? It is human nature, yours, mine... All of ours!!! You can't be successful without it, maybe you should ask yourself more questions...?

I really like this thread.
 
So, What IS a Killings Worth?..........
Sorry............ :) it's my nature.
But I like the idea behind this thread as well, Just When Some one gets ready to say Somthing Brilliant. .... There's this Nit picking going on... NOT THAT I WILL NAME ANY NAMES ......... Sorry I Feel left out.
So... Today Sucked. but I found a most SHORT, but BRILIANT Story I thought I would share with all of you. It's Worth reading ;) Trust me... *grin*

http://www.mises.org/TRTS.htm
 
existabrent said:
thanks man,

We must say that Light is an asshole, and agree there :D

I think the primary (here is my main imput) to this world simply, is simple: :D that the main thing is the ability to have respect. The ability to have a hold to other people. Now, for people that will deny this aspect here, they are wishing for stupidity. Simple as that.

This is a lesson my incredible father has taught me. He may have his shit, who doesn't?--- we all do, we just must have that ability to relate with people. This is soul, this is ability and preformance, the only ability to be able to. And we were grown in to it.

For those less troubled, my input is that they still have an un-heard of responsibility, that they may not know exists. I do pity... them, in a bit, but ... we must know that still we are free. That still ... we have got to "deal with what is", to lose my train of thought.

No, I will stop.

Meta, do you still think and or believe , that you have an ability left for a happy/ "successful", life? A life at all? You have given up eh? Some may think that's genius---but I disagree completely. A genius/hermit who philosophizes his whole life is nothing but trash, who doesn't understand philosophy because philosophy is life. You will not understand philosophy without life.
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I have come to realize that there is a totally evil force that has taken over this world and will allow me only the kinds of happiness it decides are fit for me. While this force exists, any rewards that I receive will be force-fed to me, tainted, undesirable, and any humanity that I have in me will be shaved away a little at a time and fed to the dark monster.

I have no friends who will help fight this and a lot of them who will simply find ways to stand in my way or even work to thwart anything that I do about it. They will make everything that I do into futility even while they are saying that I am a great guy.

There isn't any point in trying to do anything.
 
Light said:
Metakron, I just read for the first time - a few of your posts back - where you explained how it began with your mother beating you as a small child. And now that I know more, I apologize - to some degree. The only reason I limit the apology is because no matter HOW you were treated it doesn't give you license to post completely outright lies about other people. All that business about me and household pets is complete fabrication that came from YOUR own mind - nowhere else.

And I still recall how you steadfastly argued we me saying that heat pumps could NOT work as I described them. Other people also came into the thread and tried to tell you what I was saying was correct and provided information but you just brushed them off.
And then every single time you actually learned a bit more, you attempted to claim that you knew it all along. That type of behavior cannot be blamed on your mother's or anyone else's actions. That was you and you alone.
No, I'm not vicious at all - but I certainly do NOT mind calling a spade an spade. And I say you are a liar and a distorter of truth. And you cannot blame THAT on anyone else either.
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If you can't stand the heat, Light, don't play the game. You fuck with me, I fuck you up, that's how it works. As a matter of fact, accusing you of fucking the household pets is probably the closest thing there is to talking to you on a human level.

You yourself just lied and distorted the truth. During that conversation I did not insist that heat pumps could not work the way you said that they did. I insisted that I had been taught that they could not. That is not the same thing. You deliberately twisted that around. It wasn't the first time you screwed me that way, but it was one of the more memorable. You are one of an ilk who will do anything it takes, as you demonstrated in this thread, to tear someone down for simply trying to understand something or to promote understanding. You were deliberately fucking with me.

Also, anyone who believed that you had sex with housecats because I called you a catfucker is an even bigger moron than you are, Light.
 
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One of the insights I have is that the more lucid you are, the more you hurt. One reason that I have some lucidity is because my body tends to nullify its own endorphins. It's had plenty of practice. Think about it. Endorphins are generate aplenty during and after each beating, then the victim has to get up and function... Then when you put it all together and find out just how totally and thoroughly you and the world has been screwed, you can't even use drugs to take the edge off the depression because if they work at all, they don't work right. Dopamine's screwed too and I'm not even sure what it does except I can just forget about having a sex life. Even Light's is probably
better than mine.

So what the hell is a "psychosis" anyway? How in hell am I worse than the people who brought me up or the people who diagnosed me? The person who turned me over to them is the person who beat a two-year-old child with her fists. I was supposed to "forget all about that." From then on she kept me in terror for my life for anything I did, particularly if it was the normal behavior of a growing boy.

existabrent said:
Do you mind if I add on to this here?....

I think you too have an amazing insight, no matter what we think... I'm pretty serous. I like what you said. I like it because it was good, but bad. It is what everyone thinks about. Everyone, at least MOST people imo, have this same ideas rolling around in their head, their 'psyche' right... And it's reallly pretty simple: It is how people are, all people have the same basic core, if we call it, the same basic "fundament", right....

They do, and and when you said

After all "all of these things" is what the thread is. You agree? ... What am I saying....

All of these things, all of the world!

All of the ideas, all the killer ness ;)

You do know, my last name is Killingsworth? That's a first!
However you do know that the seccond part of your post, metakron,... is that this is how people are---must be, and can be no other way? It is human nature, yours, mine... All of ours!!! You can't be successful without it, maybe you should ask yourself more questions...?

I really like this thread.
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MetaKron said:
I have come to realize that there is a totally evil force that has taken over this world and will allow me only the kinds of happiness it decides are fit for me. While this force exists, any rewards that I receive will be force-fed to me, tainted, undesirable, and any humanity that I have in me will be shaved away a little at a time and fed to the dark monster.

I have no friends who will help fight this and a lot of them who will simply find ways to stand in my way or even work to thwart anything that I do about it. They will make everything that I do into futility even while they are saying that I am a great guy.

There isn't any point in trying to do anything.
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Ok, allow me, to start here.......
I have come to realize that there is a totally evil force that has taken over this world and will allow me only the kinds of happiness it decides are fit for me.
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What do you define this evil force as? In my opinion the evil is simply what is, that is recognized by a lot of people, at least I must believe this so I don't sink back into it myself!! The evil force is there, is. The evil force = the evil force FOR YOU. It is how you are, what you recognize, that perhaps you may be able to change your mindset to see that the evil force is just how things are?---... that it is again, once again the fundament: "Human Nature"?
Evil force= is what for you?
While this force exists, any rewards that I receive will be force-fed to me, tainted, undesirable, and any humanity that I have in me will be shaved away a little at a time and fed to the dark monster.
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I believe that you have amazing insight and a good mind. No matter what light thinks. Just that you have this fault in how you go about it.... Again it is amazing though how you percieve the nature of it all. Do you think you can fight it? Do you think it can be faught with all your hopes and dreams? With all that "is you" your "core"????
I have no friends who will help fight this and a lot of them who will simply find ways to stand in my way or even work to thwart anything that I do about it. They will make everything that I do into futility even while they are saying that I am a great guy.
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I think you are a great guy. And I think they don't want you to do something that will be bad for you.
If you keep telling yourself that you aren't a good guy, that the evil force is a bad and nasty thing, then you won't be the good guy on the outside, only on the inside?

Sorry, I just feel like "trying to say something" if you get my point
 
What in the fuck gives them the right to interfere? If I were sitting in a bathtub with a razor blade I could understand, but it seems like every fucking little thing that I might do that would change my social status to something other than "brilliant retard." Every goddam thing is bad for me! How come they can't even understand the fact that they've seen on the television about a million times, that those who sit on there asses the way that they want us to do just rot away and die? How in the hell can they be such fucking experts on what's good for me when in any subject that I might bring up, I'd get a more intelligent conversation from roadkill?
 
MetaKron said:
Why can't I handle it anymore? I have limits, damn it.
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:( ........ Crap Well Dose it help to know you arent alone MetaKron? Hey Just because popping pills Worked For me, Im not at all about to Gosple it on any one else... :rolleyes: But... You arent alone in "This" Ok?
 
Being helped before helped destroy me. The help was usually controlled and directed by those who had already been destroying me. When others helped me they would find ways to destroy that. Since that time their type has become very much more vicious against humans and animals, to the point that they are declaring a lot of each "dangerous" creatures who must be destroyed for who they are. They still think they are good people, right with God, for truth, justice, and the American way, but they are vicious and they deal death whenever they get a chance.

This is true, yet I am psychotic for mentioning it.

Whatever help you can give, Platonica, or QQ, or the psychologists, it just isn't enough. For more years than I've been alive, the focus has been on numbing the affected individuals instead of actually doing something about the problem. The problem is that these are the kind of people who will use your animals to torture you, the way someone on this forum used to bugger housecats, but he told me he doesn't do that anymore. They will use your animals or anything that you have to get into your head and pull it out through your nostrils. I don't even understand why these vicious spirits would even want to do this, but those who do it do it over and over again and I have no defense against them and they are eating up the world. People like you simply deny that they exist, but they are murdering the world and me.

There are a few decent people, a few damaged people who do their best to be decent, and then there are the buggerers and their quislings and catamites. I won't accept help from a quisling or a catamite and I might rather know someone who is a buggerer and honest about it. Maybe someone is a perfectly decent person but allows himself to be buggered and that gives more strength to those who don't stop at buggering just one. Or he's not buggered himself but allows the buggering to continue without protest. Either a catamite or a quisling.

The ones who pretend to be on the side of "right" anymore, they almost universally disrupt and destroy. There are a lot of them on the Internet forums. They wind up climbing the ranks pretty quickly whenever there is a chance for them to exert some kind of authority, and they climb over bodies. There didn't seem to be so damn many of them thirty years ago, but they were present in strength then too. Isn't death preferable to living on the same planet with them? That's what they plan for the real life on this planet anyway. I can't see winning this one.
 
yes some people call tis now 'prisonplanet'. some people are VERY aware that forces are closing in thewalls around us.
just tak an experience from aninner city area near us-----thepeople here have been fighting the council for SIXyears to be able to keep what little thre is left of NATURE. so that they can create allotments, and thus a sense of community.
But there needs are completely disrespcted by th greedy bastard councillors. no, they want to fill every avialable space with bloody office blocks, etc.

so see what is happening. this is an assualt on peoples health. fo real health isn't just goin to some doc and gettin soce fukin pills to taget A 'symptom' like we're just some fukin machine. REAl healt is all about individual, community and environemnt. and NURTURING this relationship. yeah?

but that is just a small example of what is happening to the residents of Hulme. tis crap is going on all over. and YES it IS oppressive, and YEs we really Do have to feel it an uffer it. trying to positivize it is counterporductive. i am not sugesting we cover ourselves in ashs and render our clothes and wail. we can still encourage fun and jpoy, but yet STIl be very sensitive to the oppressive hit. so that we will CHALLENGE it!!
 
Well, talking about it the way I have makes it all feel a lot worse for a while. What do you do? Silence is death. I go into an emotional tailspin when I feel I have to explain this shit. It isn't like I can just let it go anymore, let the "majority" spin this off into Dreamland again. Doing that lets them spin their own little fantasies about what is right and wrong, and they're doing us again. Some days I just can't face it anymore and when I'm like that I feel like they will find a way to kill me.

Paranoid? I faced death threats backed by considerable real physical pain since I was two years old. No human can be expected to be mentally healthy after all that, but once they've made you sick, no one believes you. For the rest of your life any injury is something you've done to yourself no matter how much they have to stretch the imagination to make it appear to be that way. They create the fault. You're the one who's always at fault.
 
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MetaKron said:
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So then, We Can all Agree on "Evil"... We can on Feel the Effects of it yes?

I never Claimed any one was NOT Trying to Hurt "you"... I was hoping that you would hear me Say it is up to you how you Respond to their Rules.... Your mom was "Oppressed" For what ever Reason... She was in a terrified state like You babe. She was So Locked within her self she could not Even SEE what she was doing to her own.
... And You Don't Forget that. Infact, If you do Forget those things then your a fool...
Take into Consideration the Rules SHE had to play by back then too? Is she the same?
It Hurts no Matter what... It Hurts to Sit and Take it, and it Hurts to Fight, and it FEELS like some times it would be easier to End it for your self Or the People You Feel Causing it.... And MAYBE there is a possibility that the "THEYS" out there FEEL Something TOO and they think it's US doing it to them.... Perhaps what is Happening isn't identifiable yet... and your right, shutting Down one Side hoping it will Go away won't work. And you are Right, I am also Tired of being "that side" whos being shut down too.
So I have to look at what I have Physically.. Just like every one else and hold on and hope for the best. When I Fought back I was brought down... Every time. You Don't Think I Don't Feel Mocked? Or Stupid? How about Confused?? all the Time... I have an Idea, so I state it.... If any one KNEW what to "DO" about it, it wouldn't be affecting us the way it Does. The only thing that has been "Agreed" upon is that there is a "Problem" The people who Try to help Fuck up more then they intend to. The People who don't do anything are sitting Ducks. What more Does any one want Done?
It would be Nice if the Sky opened up, and said "Shh.... It's all right. this will be over soon." and then Gave us all the answers. ....... But the Closest any one seems to get to a "supernatural help"... There seems to be an Equally Supernatural "Oppressor".. it's almost like a battle over "good and Evil" is taking place... But at such a microscopic level that we don't know how to battle "it".. so maybe the "battle field" IS in our lucid dreaming.. and IN what we learn from that.... and Physically and tangibly we can not hold onto each other, so it questions our states of reality... Like a Fucking Virus... Do you think that curing one man with Aids is going to Cure another just because ONE person was cured? no.. you have to go to Each Individual and Give the same treatment, and hope they respond EXACTLY Like the Man who Survived Responded. And when they Don't, you look and try to find out WHY? But... Just Because ONE Person is Cured or "Saved" Doesn't mean the "illness" has lifted out of every one. It's like a Group Of starving people who need Food sending One person to go find it. And they Find an apple and Eat it.. THAT person is saved.. But the whole Tribe Didn't eat the apple did they? So
What WORKS For some people will NOT always WORK for another person.. Especially if there is NO EFFORT put into it. Bitching blaming ranting and raving is NOT DOING. It isn't Event Productive. We have been Left out in the pasture and we need to Fend for ourselves.. and we need to Remember to Work Together. Not BLAME Each other. not State for FACT That what has Worked For ME WILL Cure and HELP and is the Answer For EVERY ONE>... Don't you think the world knows the invisible Void? If they Didn't, they wouldn't be Trying to MEDICATE IT. ... so.. WHAT IS IT?...... Stop BLAMING stop Letting your self get abused... Find a way out. You might just have to find it out on your own... And when It WORKS For YOU.. Don't assume For an instant that it is Going to Work exactly the same For Every one... We are all Individuals... We are all seeking a "common ground"... the only thing we can do is say "THIS IS WHAT WORKED FOR ME. I HOPE IT GIVES YOU INSIGHT ON SOMETHING THAT MIGHT WORK FOR YOU"
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Whatever help you can give, Platonica, or QQ, or the psychologists, it just isn't enough.
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just one thing for now.

I was wondering if you were calling me a psychologist or were talking about me? Sorry, you know me---heh, just curious, ya know. Sorta stuff.

Hey, i'm not a psychologist, i'm just a
change my social status to something other than "brilliant retard
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(asyou say) brilliant retard

heh

I'd like to help, and like to imput / find out for myself too. I know I may be bothersome, but you know... i'm just getting in to it. MetaKron, you are cool as hell. Not that "cool" is a good thing of course. I just like to talk with you, your ideas can have a say to, a final say in it. I'm sure you would like to be heard for once?

so, my question, were u talking about me? u think i'm a psychologist? heh i'm just a little kid behind the computer. i'm 20 years old who suffers from his own serious bullshit as well
 
Let's just not be so quick with the "bitching and raving are not going to do it." If defining the problem still has anything to do with solving it, it takes at least this much, that we have done right here, to define the problem. The word "psychosis" might as well mean "someone screwed me over and keeps screwing me over."

I'm not real sure that the bad practices are particularly easy to make to go out of style, or that efforts to do so might not cause worse problems than they solve. I've seen a lot of indications that Americans perfer the "final solution" to sticking with it and attempting to work it out.
 
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