MR:
I checked the video about 10 times and only see something white that the cake cover may have hit while moving.
Not sure what you're talking about here.
I'm assuming it is cake or pastry on the pedestal.
That's the problem. You're assuming all kinds of things. Inquiring minds want to know.
And you're right. I don't accept your assumption that there was a gust of wind or a vibration with enough force to cause that cover to fly horizontally all the way to the edge of the counter and fall. If it just fell off, it would stay where it fell on the counter.
Not necessarily. If it started off elevated on its base, then slipped off the side, it would gain speed as it moved from the stand to the counter top. The video is so hazy you can't even clearly see what the initial setup looked like, so you and I are both speculating.
One thing I did notice watching the video is that there are windows, door, air conditioners etc. all over the place in that store. Watch the parts where the psychic investigators are moving around the store, not just the CCTV video of the cake top moving. That way, you get more of a sense of the overall geography of the place. It's how I spotted the (really obvious) air-conditioner below the window and level with the counter top; it's virtually right next to the counter.
What we in fact see is the cover being propelled across the counter till it fell on the floor.
I disagree with "propelled". That's an assumption you're making. My theory says it simple slid off the stand onto the counter top, possibly flipping over in the process (it's hard to tell from the video), and then kept moving until it left the counter top and fell onto the floor. I guess I'd be happy enough to go with "propelled
by gravity", if you insist on using that language.
That entails a force strong enough to do that. Vibrations and drafts don't provide that.
The gravity was strong enough to pull it down off the counter onto the floor. I'm guessing it was also strong enough to pull the cake top off its stand, once it had been jostled enough - and it might only take a little vibration or small wind to do that - like the wind from the air conditioner that might have been running about 2 metres away from it, for all we know from the available information.
As for your assumption of the clear cup with a rubber base? No..I doubt you have seen such a thing.
I have. Want to step it up and call me a liar to my face?
The cup is just your average clear cup or glass, and certainly would have at least moved if vibrations caused the tip jar to scoot off the counter.
Maybe it is just your average cup or glass. Even if it is, your conclusion doesn't necessarily follow, for reasons I gave previously.
It did not. So there were no vibrations.
Better get your arse down there and do the actual experiment. That would be far more convincing than your unevidenced assertions.
You talk about my assumptions, but have certainly had a field day with your own.
All I have done is what any sensible person would have done, and what you should have done. I applied a little brain power and
thought about what could possibly have produced the behaviour observed in these videos. I didn't start by assuming it was ghostly activity, like you did.
Also, I have at no time assumed that my rather plausible theories are correct. They remain only theories, pending anybody investigating the matter further to confirm them or rule them out. I know that idea strikes you as absurd. Who would want to investigate a ghostly occurrence? We know from the start it was a ghost, and can rule out all alternatives just sitting in front of the computer watching a low-quality youtube video. That's how it works, isn't it? That's how ghost investigation is done, at least by you.
I propose you refrain from throwing stones from glass houses. Because at this point all you have to offer are speculations that cannot be confirmed and certainly aren't very plausible.
I can only shake my head at you. Why don't you ever turn that mirror back on yourself? Do you really, for one moment, imagine that your ghost explanation is anything more than speculation that cannot be confirmed and which isn't very plausible? Oh sorry. Stupid me for asking. Of course do you. That's
all you can imagine, because you don't
want any inconvenient truth getting in the way of the woo belief.
Both cases, as well as many other videos and eyewitness accounts of poltergeist phenomena, substantiate that there are indeed invisible agents who move objects.
Other ghost sightings do nothing to confirm these supposed ghostly happenings. I know you think that if you have 100 anecdotes, that makes the next one more plausible, but it really doesn't. The plural of anecdote is not data (as they say).
Every time your present
anything like this, the evidence for the woo is flimsy and unconvincing. I would have thought that, having had this pointed out to you over and over again, you would have learned not to be so gullible by now, but, hey, it's you. So here we are again, with you making up ghost stories.
