Plants, CO2 and temperature

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your thoughts?
 
Is this trying to sell us on why we don’t need to lessen carbon emissions? :wink:
I suspect. This is the "CO2 is a miracle plant nutrient that will green the planet and save us all!" angle. It's one of the Type III denials.
 
I suspect. This is the "CO2 is a miracle plant nutrient that will green the planet and save us all!" angle. It's one of the Type III denials.
Not so much corny as sweet corny?(mebbe lost in translation?)
 
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Is this trying to sell us on why we don’t need to lessen carbon emissions? :wink:
NO absolutely NOT

Do what you can do---so I planted enough trees to go carbon neutral over 30 years ago.
By now, my carbon footprint is so light, it's like I'm walking on air.
Personally i have always gone with fuel efficient vehicles
and, I recommend both of these approaches
also---reduce, repair, rebuild, repurpose, recycle (a lady ranger gave me those 5 Rs 45 years ago---handsome woman, I really enjoyed our conversations and treks through the swamp)

The primary producers were here first
caring about their welfare is kinda like respecting your forebears

What is good for them is ultimately good for us

so
How nice that we give them a warmer world and more CO2:
(see above)
Which, they really seem to like

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Lighten up dudes, we ain't the problem, we're the solution---or, at least we can be.
 
NO absolutely NOT

Do what you can do---so I planted enough trees to go carbon neutral over 30 years ago.
By now, my carbon footprint is so light, it's like I'm walking on air.
Personally i have always gone with fuel efficient vehicles
and, I recommend both of these approaches
also---reduce, repair, rebuild, repurpose, recycle (a lady ranger gave me those 5 Rs 45 years ago---handsome woman, I really enjoyed our conversations and treks through the swamp)

The primary producers were here first
caring about their welfare is kinda like respecting your forebears

What is good for them is ultimately good for us

so
How nice that we give them a warmer world and more CO2:
(see above)
Which, they really seem to like

.......................................................
Lighten up dudes, we ain't the problem, we're the solution---or, at least we can be.
And this does what for sea level rise, the stopping of the Gulf Stream, desertification and changes in global rainfall pattern?
 
And this does what for sea level rise, the stopping of the Gulf Stream, desertification and changes in global rainfall pattern?
Don't worry kid, the earth's climate has been doing that for billions of years. The people of The people of Atlantis were annoyed, I bet they wished they'd built on higher ground, must have been form their Global Warming problems.
 
Don't worry kid, the earth's climate has been doing that for billions of years. The people of The people of Atlantis were annoyed, I bet they wished they'd built on higher ground, must have been form their Global Warming problems.
Yes, let's be facetious about it. That should fix it.
 
And this does what for sea level rise, the stopping of the Gulf Stream, desertification and changes in global rainfall pattern?
I'll just let you worry about what you think the models indicate.

OTOH
If everyone followed my lead, that shouldn't be much of a problem.

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What have you done to mitigate the carbon enrichment of the atmosphere?
Get rid of the air conditioner?
Wear a sweater in the winter?
Give up driving except when necessary?
Reduce, repair, rebuild, repurpose, recycle as a daily habit?

Or, do you just complain about your worries hoping that someone else will sacrifice to solve your perceived problems?
 
I'll just let you worry about what you think the models indicate.

OTOH
If everyone followed my lead, that shouldn't be much of a problem.

......................................
What have you done to mitigate the carbon enrichment of the atmosphere?
Get rid of the air conditioner?
Wear a sweater in the winter?
Give up driving except when necessary?
Reduce, repair, rebuild, repurpose, recycle as a daily habit?

Or, do you just complain about your worries hoping that someone else will sacrifice to solve your perceived problems?
As you have still failed to answer my question, I'll ask you again: what do you think this stuff you have posted about plant growth will do to mitigate sea level rise, the stopping of the Gulf Stream, desertification and changes in global rainfall pattern?

Or do you perhaps think the models do not indicate any of these, and they are just products of my personal, fevered imagination?
 
Maybe some here feel you’re trying to put a positive “spin” on carbon emissions? I doubt your posting this with malice (it’s just a discussion), but while plant growth may improve (to varying degrees), the negative effects of climate change would seem to outweigh the positives. If you disagree with that, can you explain why?
 
Do what you can do---so I planted enough trees to go carbon neutral over 30 years ago.
By now, my carbon footprint is so light, it's like I'm walking on air.
You probably didn't. Thirty years ago nobody knew what kinds of trees to plant where to counterbalance various carbon release setups. The details are still in research. And I seriously doubt you've kept up with the research - you never argue from evidence, which usually indicates a reliance on media memes from the most industrious propaganda sources - matching your typical post.

You might have been lucky and wealthy enough, but it's not the way to bet.
Or, do you just complain about your worries hoping that someone else will sacrifice to solve your perceived problems?
Other people also try to talk their fellow citizens into not electing incompetent fascist demagogues to high governmental office - that way we might be able to help solve other people's problems as well as our own. It's what grownups do.

Meanwhile, some plants exhibit higher photosynthesis rates at higher temps when there's enough CO2 to counter the respiration boost, and some don't (example: C4 plants, like corn, often do not benefit from higher CO2 levels in the air). Some prefer higher photosynthesis rates, and some don't. Quite often, wild plants (not being irrigated and fertilized and protected from herbivory or disease) do well at higher rates of CO2 supply for a while, and then suffer consequences of various side effects (in the Cedar Creek research plots connected to the U of M the benefits of CO2 enrichment last longer at lower temperatures, but even when protected like that they give out in less than 8 years on average - last I heard the general best guess explanation was nutrient depletion of the soil - CO2 is seldom a limiting nutrient).
 
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