DaveC426913
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That's ... actually not an entirely unreasonable attitude toward the issue.
'twould that other SciFo members could be so rational about their own hypotheses.
planets orbit like their stars vibrate ?
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'twould that other SciFo members could be so rational about their own hypotheses.
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Saying there is a correlation, not necessary causation. but what else? Pseudo? perhaps time might tell,
Be that as it may, Not quibbling about classification, just content the data are there for the record.
thanx
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I'm not.
We are talking planetary orbits here, how they could they have happened to fall into an 8 step geometric series (with explained exceptions***).
Einstein rules out divine intervention when he said : " The Lord does not play dice", so, according to him, the planets did not arrive by divine fiat in their orbits spaced 300 light seconds, 10 minutes, 20 light minutes, 40 lms, 80 lms, 160 light minutes apart ( the Saturn to Uranus orbit diameter gap).
a 8 perfect alignment throw of pebbles or dice. So, since
It was not Einstein's lord. why not look to the next weighty entity, namely Helios, the Sun, our star throwing its weight around? because
It just so happens that she, he wobbles, no, not around its baricenters only, , but in lateral pulsations, like a jelly blob, every 300 seconds, plus harmonics.
*** below Venus no smaller halved orbits ( <300ls) , above Uranus the gap is steady at 9.6 AU= not bigger than >160 ls. But Pluto is right on 320 LS, twice the Saturn to Uranus distance above uranus. at ~ 38.8) too bad he it is not a planet any more to count in the perfect geometric series. Halving all the way down to Mercury.***
PS: the exceptions point the way to the possible solutions, as is often the case in theories, the exceptions point to a connection with "c", something propagating that way, like gravitational, magnetic changes, like in a wobble.
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<www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/04/180411111106.htm>.
Perhaps the difference in star pulsations, vibrating central masses has something to do with it.
Perhaps the difference in star pulsations, vibrating central masses has something to do with it.
Wouldn't be surprised .
Has anybody seen what happens at the startup of the fusion process of a star, when it just reaches critical mass, pressure, temperature. I doubt it would be a pulsation- free process, and profoundly effect the proto-planetary field forces, distribution of matter in a possible Chladni - like process. or?
Nebel: <www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/04/180411111106.htm>.
Perhaps the difference in star pulsations, vibrating central masses has something to do with it.
Konstantin Batygin1 and Michael E. Brown1
Published 2016 January 20 • © 2016. The American Astronomical Society. All rights reserved.
The Astronomical Journal, Volume 151, Number 2
Quote: from Abstract:
"Recent analyses have shown that distant orbits within the scattered disk population of the Kuiper Belt exhibit an unexpected clustering in their respective arguments of perihelion.
We demonstrate that the perihelion positions and orbital planes of the objects are tightly confined and that such a clustering has only a probability of 0.007% to be due to chance, thus requiring a dynamical origin.--"
Here is the correlation: The Perihelion of Sedna is 76 AU, the next Bode position after Pluto is 2x 388 = 776, within 5%, 77.6 AU of the quoted Sedna Perihelion clustering of other TNOs.
strengthening the Bode-based Hypothesis involving the 5 min and 160 minute solar pulsation projected out. Perhaps
Planets, even way out minor planets orbit like their Stars pulse.
Perhaps the difference in star pulsations, vibrating central masses has something to do with it.
Here is a confirmation of the extension of the Bode series beyond Pluto:
Konstantin Batygin1 and Michael E. Brown1
Published 2016 January 20 • © 2016. The American Astronomical Society. All rights reserved.
The Astronomical Journal, Volume 151, Number 2
Quote: from Abstract:
"Recent analyses have shown that distant orbits within the scattered disk population of the Kuiper Belt exhibit an unexpected clustering in their respective arguments of perihelion.
We demonstrate that the perihelion positions and orbital planes of the objects are tightly confined and that such a clustering has only a probability of 0.007% to be due to chance, thus requiring a dynamical origin.--"
Here is the correlation: The Perihelion of Sedna is 76 AU, the next Bode position after Pluto is 2x 388 = 776, within 5%, 77.6 AU of the quoted Sedna Perihelion clustering of other TNOs.
strengthening the Bode-based Hypothesis involving the 5 min and 160 minute solar pulsation projected out. Perhaps
Planets, even way out minor planets orbit like their Stars pulse.
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Forgive me for changing the scale, but if light can be used to place matter in chosen positions,
similar means could have been at work with the placing of gas, dust in the young forming solar system. Pulsing for planets
We new it can be done by sound, magnetism, this adds another medium, at least on a small scale:
<www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/10/181002091942.htm
similar means could have been at work with the placing of gas, dust in the young forming solar system. Pulsing for planets
We new it can be done by sound, magnetism, this adds another medium, at least on a small scale:
<www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/10/181002091942.htm
yes they do, but not all chatter matter into places, like orbits, as I propose the Sun did/does for the planets: but, here is the small fry at work:
https://www.quantamagazine.org/famo...ve-alternative-to-quantum-weirdness-20181011/
https://doi.org/10.1093/mn
abstract: " we predict a new non-transiting planet, Kepler-159d, in a resonant 2:1 orbit with Kepler-159c." Chris Fox, Paul Wiegert,
"Kepler 159d is mostly made up of gas, with no distinct solid surface.
Kepler 159d sits within the Kepler 159’s habitable zone, "
Not related directly to star/planet orbit resonances, but if you looked for Solar orbit/ pulsation /"c" parallels,
It is Uranus and Neptune that are in 2:1 resonance, and are in a 9.6 AU spacing~ a 160 light minute wavelength, a solar pulsation 5 octaves above the 5 minute base.
If the rule holds outside our stars field condition, this prediction could be made:
Kepler 159 c and Kepler 159 d's orbital diameter difference, when using the speed of light c for conversion to time, frequency, should give one of the star Kepler 159's basic resonances.
abstract: " we predict a new non-transiting planet, Kepler-159d, in a resonant 2:1 orbit with Kepler-159c." Chris Fox, Paul Wiegert,
"Kepler 159d is mostly made up of gas, with no distinct solid surface.
Kepler 159d sits within the Kepler 159’s habitable zone, "
Not related directly to star/planet orbit resonances, but if you looked for Solar orbit/ pulsation /"c" parallels,
It is Uranus and Neptune that are in 2:1 resonance, and are in a 9.6 AU spacing~ a 160 light minute wavelength, a solar pulsation 5 octaves above the 5 minute base.
If the rule holds outside our stars field condition, this prediction could be made:
Kepler 159 c and Kepler 159 d's orbital diameter difference, when using the speed of light c for conversion to time, frequency, should give one of the star Kepler 159's basic resonances.
To your last statement , did you find that the star Kepler 159's basic resonance ?
No, it is a prediction, based on the situation in our Solar system, When astronomers get to the stage where Stellar pulsation can be determined, as is done with the Sun, The wavelength should match the 159c to 159d distance.
There is such a match, Uranus -Neptune here, but, whether that correspondence is a sign of causation, is still questionable too.
The prediction was done to invite proof, falsification.
www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/11/181102131952.htm>.
An interesting way to shape dust lanes that could have been the the source early particle obits, that later piled up into proto planets, and/because
the solar magnetic field carries pulsations, known since the days of the telegraph.
An interesting way to shape dust lanes that could have been the the source early particle obits, that later piled up into proto planets, and/because
the solar magnetic field carries pulsations, known since the days of the telegraph.
" With the observation of protoplanetary disks still in its infancy, the full story of planet-making will probably be more complicated than anyone expects, and ideas could well be overturned and then overturned again. “Case in point, it looks like the Solar System isn’t even the most common-looking system out there. We’re a little weird,” says Clement."
Quoted from Nature Magazine, 4 December 2018
Not a mention be the author Rebecca Boyle of Solar system features like Lagrangian - ,or zero velocity areas, where matter now aggregates, or star pulsations, but all is work in progress.
Quoted from Nature Magazine, 4 December 2018
Not a mention be the author Rebecca Boyle of Solar system features like Lagrangian - ,or zero velocity areas, where matter now aggregates, or star pulsations, but all is work in progress.
https://images.newscientist.com/wp-...05173101/conceptual_animation_of_solar_wind_0.
Leah Crane: Earth may have started as dust in the wind. Unlike in many other stellar systems we’ve seen, the area close to our sun is empty. That may be because early in the solar system’s formation, the solar wind blew rocks near the sun into the area where Mercury, Venus, and Earth eventually formed."
Not a mention of Resonances in this New Scientist article, but it stands to reason, that the workings of the huge central mass, it's fields, out gassings, would have the greatest influence of to where proto planets form
Leah Crane: Earth may have started as dust in the wind. Unlike in many other stellar systems we’ve seen, the area close to our sun is empty. That may be because early in the solar system’s formation, the solar wind blew rocks near the sun into the area where Mercury, Venus, and Earth eventually formed."
Not a mention of Resonances in this New Scientist article, but it stands to reason, that the workings of the huge central mass, it's fields, out gassings, would have the greatest influence of to where proto planets form