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parmalee

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Reason: the posts here are vitriolic personal attacks that are irrelevant to the discussion in the original thread, or responses to those attacks.

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Are you going to claim that JKR has said that women who have not had children are lesser, now, as well?
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Did I mention JKR anywhere within that post? (Nope.) Is there some mandate that states that Dave Chappelle may not be discussed within this thread? (Nope.) Has evidence of JKR's bullying and mockery been provided--about half a dozen times or so, and by more than one poster, and in the form of direct quotes even--within this thread? (Yep.)

Again, since you clearly missed it the first time, this is why I shall not waste any more of my time on you.
 
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Did I mention JKR anywhere within that post? (Nope.)
That's why I asked "Are you going to...". The ostensible topic here is about JK Rowling. Remember?
Is there some mandate that states that Dave Chappelle may not be discussed within this thread? (Nope.)
No. That's why we're discussing him. Only, now, you don't want to, despite introducing him as an example. Funny, that.

Has evidence of JKR's bullying and mockery been provided--about half a dozen times or so, and by more than one poster, and in the form of direct quotes even--within this thread? (Yep.)
Again, since you clearly missed it the first time, this is why I shall not waste any more of my time on you.
Okay. Run along now.
 
That's why I asked "Are you going to...". The ostensible topic here is about JK Rowling. Remember?
Nope. This is what you asked:
Are you going to claim that JKR has said that women who have not had children are lesser, now, as well?
Is there a reason you didn't provide the full quote here? Perhaps because it, once again, is baseless insinuation.
 
billvon,

I'm glad that you have been willing to keep your cool and have an actual discussion with me about these matters. Several other people in this thread have gone ballistic and one has run away foaming at the mouth, throwing insults as he goes.
???

For added hilarity, this guy is a moderator here--in fact, he is the sole moderator here.

So what are the qualifications for such these days? Pathological dishonesty; frequent strawmanning; delusions of being a mind-reader or something (who regularly informs other posters what they do or do not believe and what does or does not concern them); tendency to level baseless insinuations; demanding apologies (cuz forced apologies are always the most sincere); ignoring repeatedly proffered evidence and asking for this same evidence again and again; ignoring links and explanations and/or pretending that such are not present when, in fact, they very much are present; frequently feigning ignorance; harboring paranoid fantasies about various posters colluding and conspiring together against him; and outright lying with astonishing regularity. These just seem rather odd qualities for a moderator to me.
 
parmalee:

Once again, you have shown that you struggle to understand that a sentence that ends with the symbol ? is a question. It is not an insinuation. You can answer a question with a "no" or a "yes". It's paranoid to assume that every time somebody asks you a question they are trying to trick you, or to put words in your mouth.
 
parmalee:
???

For added hilarity, this guy is a moderator here--in fact, he is the sole moderator here.
Yeah. It's a riot, all right. Really hilarious. I can tell because you're laughing so hard and you aren't red faced with anger, seething behind your keyboard.
So what are the qualifications for such these days? Pathological dishonesty; frequent strawmanning; delusions of being a mind-reader or something (who regularly informs other posters what they do or do not believe and what does or does not concern them); tendency to level baseless insinuations; demanding apologies (cuz forced apologies are always the most sincere); ignoring repeatedly proffered evidence and asking for this same evidence again and again; ignoring links and explanations and/or pretending that such are not present when, in fact, they very much are present; frequently feigning ignorance; harboring paranoid fantasies about various posters colluding and conspiring together against him; and outright lying with astonishing regularity. These just seem rather odd qualities for a moderator to me.
This sort of rant really belongs in the Site Feedback subforum - or, more properly, in the Cesspool. In this case, it is a completely off-topic ad hominem attack.

It is also vitriolic, personal and false.

For added hilarity, it is also an unconscious projection, at least in part.

These seem like rather odd qualities from a poster who wants people to assume he is rational and stable.

And all this, because I wrote something you disagree with on the topic of JK Rowling and/or transgender issues. Something you can't or won't articulate. So, instead of trying to have a rational discussion - or, failing that, just staying the hell away from me - you throw an ongoing paranoid hissy fit.
 
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parmalee:

Once again, you have shown that you struggle to understand that a sentence that ends with the symbol ? is a question. It is not an insinuation. You can answer a question with a "no" or a "yes". It's paranoid to assume that every time somebody asks you a question they are trying to trick you, or to put words in your mouth.
Did you not see the question mark, James? In fact, there are two question marks in my post.
 
Try going back through the recent posts. See if you can work out who has been trying to "bash" whom.
Let's see--who is it that eventually "turns on" every single poster here? I certainly don't recall having said anything about that. Who is it that is "truly a horrible person"? Again, don't recall having said that. Who is it that will "join the fascists"? I could go on here, but your habitual lying and dishonesty could take hours and hours of my time to demonstrate, seeing as those examples only come from just a couple of posts, within a single thread. I could also get started on the countless other posters you have done very much the same with, or even just pull more examples of your bullshit from another post, or another page from this thread, or another thread even.

I could even back up your "vitrioloc, personal and false" allegation with examples from this thread demonstrating every single one of my claims. In fact, I've already done so with most. I could also name about a dozen posters, just off the top of my head, who have also echoed the same sentiments--and provide the relevant posts wherein they do so. Were I to take five minutes, I could easily add another dozen posters (to the dozen just off the top of my head) to the list, and, again, provide the relevant examples. Would you like me to do so, James? Or. alternately, you could just, let's see, stop lying. Your choice.

Jesus, I can name at least four people just from this thread. I could add three more to the list, from this thread, if we count instances wherein they've expressed such sentiments outside the thread. Maybe that "dozen off the top of my head" was a rather conservative estimate. So let's go with 15 off the top of my head, and another dozen or so were I to pause to think about it for a few minutes. Shall I proceed, James? Your choice. Don't worry, I shall provide the relevant quotes--and remember, the blue text indicates a link.
 
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Rowling hasn't told anybody else to shut up, as far as I'm aware. It's not her who is trying to shut down speech. Apparently, Tiassa doesn't want Rowling writing any novels he doesn't approve of. Okay. But it would certainly be a "twist on free speech" to try to prevent her from doing it, wouldn't it?
Who here has been trying to shut down "free speech"? Or is this just more evidence of your pathological dishonesty here?
 
James R, if you don't write what you mean, or mean what you write, as when trying to dismiss a complaint by referencing a rule without addressing whether one is looking at an exception to it or not, then you're going to be of little relevance to people.
Similarly, if you think, as a moderator, it is okay to bash someone if you feel they have bashed you, then might I suggest that you're not setting a good example. And furthermore, bashing someone is not an excuse for your writing something in the absolute when you know exceptions exist and when the issue is whether it is an exception or not.
Thing is, I can laugh about it, even while I find it annoying, when someone comes after me; but when they are going after other people, as well (as we've also seen in this thread), it pisses me off--and it's just gross and disgusting.

Likewise with Rowling, for that matter: her views which I find questionable are one thing, but when she goes off bullying and mocking various athletes, including a kid, that's simply disgusting. She's got hundreds of millions of dollars, and millions of followers, and she is going after these people who already face a lot of difficulties (including high rates of depression and suicidality) and baseless prejudices against them. It's vile.
 
Let's begin, starting with this post:
Notice, Vat, that parmalee didn't provide a link to the irrelevant previous conversation that he quoted from. There's a reason for that. He wants you to take his word that his lies are true, rather than seeing the context.
Notice, James, that I very much did provide links--again, that would be the blue text--and I provided context and explanations for relevance.
parmalee can't stand that I didn't toe his line of "trans activism", so he has decided to go to town on me with lies and false accusations.
Can you cite one single false accusation? Perhaps you are referring to that line about you "not having a problem with bullying trans athletes, apparently." Let's see, you have been provided with evidence of Rowling's bullying multiple times by more than one poster. How did you respond? Nothing, no response. Therefore, I concluded with that quoted bit.
If you've been paying attention, you'll have noticed that parmalee has trouble remaining civil with anybody, not just with me. He lost his shit with foghorn. He lost his shit with Seattle. Now he's lost his shit with me. It keeps happening. Stick around for a while and I guarantee he'll lose his shit with you, too.
OK, now I "turn(ed) on" Seattle, the guy who baselessly insinuated that I was a pedophile. And I "turn(ed) on" foghorn, the guy who spammed 5 separate threads with quotes from me that he plainly did not even remotely understand and made completely nonsensical insinuations and accusations, again, based either upon his incredibly poor reading comprehension or because he's simply a fucking asshole. Of course, I reported this--several times--but the "moderator" didn't do jack shit. Why is that, James? And as far as me having "now" "lost my shit" with you--actually, I kinda ran out of patience with you years ago, after discerning a clear pattern of dishonesty and a tendency to bully, harass and intimidate countless other posters here, more often than not simply because they disagreed with you.

Who else do I "have trouble remaining civil with"? Provide names and citations. Oh, perhaps that Trek guy--you know, the avowed rape advocate, something which you yourself seemed to recognize. Who else?

Alternately, you could simply issue a public apology and retraction of your baseless lies and insinuations--that's your thing, right?

Of course, this is just a single post. Would you like me to continue with other posts, James?
 
parmalee:

Are you still at it, too? What happened to your concerns about JK Rowling? Am I your main focus, now?
Did you not see the question mark, James? In fact, there are two question marks in my post.
Which post? You've made several. I will be happy to tell you, if you point me to the one you're talking about.
Let's see--who is it that eventually "turns on" every single poster here? I certainly don't recall having said anything about that.
You're getting confused. It was me who observed that you have turned on several other posters here. Which you have. I'm just the latest in a line of people you have alienated. I don't recall saying anything about "every single poster".

Or are you talking about somebody else? Or asking a question? If it's a question, then I don't know. Who eventually turns on every single poster here? Anybody?

Who is it that is "truly a horrible person"?
I think I said you were. Are you going to apologise to me for the behaviour that elicited that comment from me? Or not?
Again, don't recall having said that.
I don't, either. Not an issue, then.
Who is it that will "join the fascists"?
Not me. How about you?
I could go on here, but your habitual lying and dishonesty could take hours and hours of my time to demonstrate...
Shouldn't be hard to find a few examples, given how habitual it is.

And yet, none are in evidence.

I could also get started on the countless other posters you have done very much the same with, or even just pull more examples of your bullshit from another post, or another page from this thread, or another thread even.
I'm sure you will. Maybe start a new thread, though. You're polluting this one with your personal bullshit and it's clear you don't want to discuss the topic.

You know, we could do this by personal messaging. Is the public spectacle important to you?
I could even back up your "vitrioloc, personal and false" allegation with examples from this thread demonstrating every single one of my claims.
It's a pity you didn't try to do that in the first place, rather than just making empty allegations, like you did.
In fact, I've already done so with most.
And there we have it, ladies and gentlemen. The expected lie.
I could also name about a dozen posters, just off the top of my head, who have also echoed the same sentiments--and provide the relevant posts wherein they do so.
Safety in numbers, eh?

After all, if lots of people behave like pieces of shit, it's fine for you to join in, isn't it?
Were I to take five minutes, I could easily add another dozen posters (to the dozen just off the top of my head) to the list, and, again, provide the relevant examples. Would you like me to do so, James? Or. alternately, you could just, let's see, stop lying. Your choice.
Yeah, I'd really love you list all the posters who have chips on their shoulders because I have called them on their bullshit, parmalee. That would be really useful for everybody. And so interesting, too.

Go right ahead. But in a different thread. This one is about JK Rowling and transgender issues. Remember?

Jesus, I can name at least four people just from this thread.
My screen name is James R, not Jesus.
I could add three more to the list, from this thread, if we count instances wherein they've expressed such sentiments outside the thread. Maybe that "dozen off the top of my head" was a rather conservative estimate. So let's go with 15 off the top of my head, and another dozen or so were I to pause to think about it for a few minutes. Shall I proceed, James? Your choice. Don't worry, I shall provide the relevant quotes--and remember, the blue text indicates a link.
Since you're so insistent on this, now you have me intrigued, parmalee!

Yes, by all means. Please produce your List of the Disgruntled who don't like James R, with quotes and links to prove that they are disgruntled and don't like James R. That ought to keep you busy for a while. You'll cause less trouble in the meantime.
Oh, my bad. I forgot that you're a mind-reader.
Forget that at your peril. I'm in your head, parmalee!
Jesus Christ. Read the thread. Are you seriously this clueless?
Jesus hasn't been posting, parmalee. Try to get a grip.
Who here has been trying to shut down "free speech"?
I don't know. You? How many guesses do I get?

Have I shut down your speech, parmalee? It seems to me that you're speaking your mind freely.

Would it make you happier if I did shut down your "free speech" on this forum? Let me know.
Or is this just more evidence of your pathological dishonesty here?
How is my failing to shut down your free speech evidence of my pathological dishonesty?

Seriously, man. You're foaming at the mouth. Calm down. Apologise for your poor behaviour and we can all get back to discussing what a horrible woman JK Rowling is, like you wanted to.
 
Oh, there's more.
Thing is, I can laugh about it, even while I find it annoying, when someone comes after me; but when they are going after other people, as well (as we've also seen in this thread), it pisses me off--and it's just gross and disgusting.
Is this still about me? Remember, parmalee, that you went after me, first. I pushed back. And now you're in this uncomfortable position where you've just reacted emotionally and said things you shouldn't have. But you're too proud to take them back. You want to burn bridges, rather than build them. So, you're doubling and tripling down, making yourself look like exactly the kind of extremist I called out in my first post to this thread. A man who is trying to intimidate another person into silence because that person doesn't just bow down and agree with everything you say.
Likewise with Rowling, for that matter: her views which I find questionable are one thing, but when she goes off bullying and mocking various athletes, including a kid, that's simply disgusting. She's got hundreds of millions of dollars, and millions of followers, and she is going after these people who already face a lot of difficulties (including high rates of depression and suicidality) and baseless prejudices against them. It's vile.
I have invited you on multiple occasions to provide examples of where Rowling has "gone after" transgender people. To be clear, I'm not talking about "going after" specific transgender people who support the radical line that transgender woman and cis women are identical. That, after all, is what the dispute is about. There are transgender radicals and there are cisgender radicals who support the "cause". I'm talking about Rowling "going after" specific transgender people because she believes that being a transgender person is evil, or something like that.

I haven't seen any evidence that Rowling is "transphobic" in the sense of considering transgender people to be lesser human beings or deserving of punishment or stuff like that. If you've got it, bring it, by all means.
Can you cite one single false accusation?
What? From your rant post in which you made about 20 false, personal accusations in a row? I can cite that post, certainly. Do you need me to?
Perhaps you are referring to that line about you "not having a problem with bullying trans athletes, apparently."
If that's what you're alleging of me, then certainly. That's a false accusation. I have a problem with bullying anyone. Which, of course, includes trans athletes.

From your behaviour in this thread, it looks like you don't have a problem with trying to bully people. It's not like you've stopped trying to bully me. It's not like you didn't start trying to bully me. Maybe you make a special exception for trans athletes, but everybody else is fair game. Who knows?
Let's see, you have been provided with evidence of Rowling's bullying multiple times by more than one poster. How did you respond? Nothing, no response.
Maybe I missed the relevant post or posts. You could link me to one of them and then we could discuss. Not that I'm very interested in having a discussion with you while you're in this mood you're in.
OK, now I "turn(ed) on" Seattle, the guy who baselessly insinuated that I was a pedophile.
It isn't nice when people insinuate things that aren't true, is it?

What did you learn from your experience with Seattle? Anything?
And I "turn(ed) on" foghorn, the guy who spammed 5 separate threads with quotes from me that he plainly did not even remotely understand and made completely nonsensical insinuations and accusations, again, based either upon his incredibly poor reading comprehension or because he's simply a fucking asshole.
So, hypothetically, if some guy were to spam a thread about, say, JK Rowling, with nonsensical insinuations and accusations, based on his incredibly poor reading comprehension or because he's simply a fucking asshole, you'd have no problem with somebody else in that thread turning on him?

Of course, I reported this--several times--but the "moderator" didn't do jack shit. Why is that, James?
I'm sure I must have handled your reports, because they are marked as "resolved" or "rejected" in the report queue. Perhaps your complaints turned out to be unfounded.

What responses did you receive from me, at the time? I always provide a summary of what action I have taken as a moderator, in response to a filed report, at the very least.
And as far as me having "now" "lost my shit" with you--actually, I kinda ran out of patience with you years ago, after discerning a clear pattern of dishonesty and a tendency to bully, harass and intimidate countless other posters here, more often than not simply because they disagreed with you.
That figures. You're saying that you've been bottling up this rage inside you for years, and now it has all come exploding out.

It's a pity you didn't try to talk to me about your concerns before blowing your top in such an undignified manner. We probably could have resolved things in an atmosphere of mutual respect and civility. Instead, years later, you do this.
Who else do I "have trouble remaining civil with"? Provide names and citations.
You know that better than I do, parmalee. I don't think I need to present a public list to try to shame you.

Look, I'm a moderator of this forum. If you cross a line and breach our site rules, and somebody reports you, then I will deal with that problem when it arises, as appropriate. You've already clocked up 50 warning points so far this year and you know why those points were awarded, because I explained clearly to you on the occasion of each warning. Repeats of the same or similar behaviour will get you warned again, probably.

If you don't cross the lines, then you can have trouble remaining civil with as many people as you like, as far as I'm concerned.

By the way, just so you know: you're getting special treatment this time around, specifically because the target of your appalling behaviour is me. It is not bias that that's at issue, but the possible perception of bias. So, here we are. Unless you really try to up the ante with me, you'll probably get away with posting the kinds of insults that I would issue a warning for if your target was anybody else. You have so far, despite your whining about censorship and such (which hasn't occurred).
Oh, perhaps that Trek guy--you know, the avowed rape advocate, something which you yourself seemed to recognize. Who else?
It's quite a long list, you have to admit.

Also worth mentioning, perhaps: I have had the odd disagreement or seven with the likes of Seattle and Trek as well, along with your newly self-appointed champion Sarkus whom, so far, you seem tolerant of.

In fact, I have issued official warnings to a number of people and have heard not a peep from you complaining about my "censoring" of them or my bullying them and removing their right to speak freely.

It seems like you might have a bit of a double standard. You seem to be fine with me moderating other people, sometimes in response to reports you have filed, but when it comes to me moderating you or your friends (whoever they might be on this forum, if there are any), then maybe it's a different story.

This is not my first rodeo, parmalee. I have seen too many disingenuous complaints to count from people who have developed chips on their shoulders following their receiving an official warning or three from me. Typically, the greatest amount of bile comes from the people who are least willing to take responsibility for their own behaviour and the least willing to modify their behaviour after being called out on it.

Which group are you in?, I wonder.

Alternately, you could simply issue a public apology and retraction of your baseless lies and insinuations--that's your thing, right?
Certainly. Which particular baseless lies and insinuations of mine would you like me to apologise to you for, parmalee?

Of course, this is just a single post. Would you like me to continue with other posts, James?
I'm wondering how long you're going to keep up with this tantrum of yours.

I mean, you've had a chance to step away from your computer, have meals, get some fresh air, sleep, etc. And yet, for the past few days, you've been back into it every time you open the forum, maintaining the rage.

Just how important is it to you to show what a despicable human being I am? I guess we'll see. Won't we?
 
This is not my first rodeo, parmalee.
You're plainly delusional, James--no one has been talking about rodeos here. I repeat: Absolutely no one has been talking about rodeos. What are you on about?

You're clearly foaming at the mouth and hallucinating from bath salts or Tide pods or whatever it is you do down there for "fun". Take a break. Regroup. When you've recovered you can come back with your public apology and a retraction for all your lies.

Oh, and maybe then you could actually try reading the thread. You clearly haven't.
 
You're clearly foaming at the mouth and hallucinating from bath salts or Tide pods or whatever it is you do down there for "fun".
No one here has been talking about Tide pods here. I repeat: Absolutely no one has been talking about Tide pods. What are you on about?

You're clearly rabid and hallucinating from going to the rodeo too often or whatever it is you do "for fun" over there. Relax and take a break.
 
No one here has been talking about Tide pods here. I repeat: Absolutely no one has been talking about Tide pods. What are you on about?

You're clearly rabid and hallucinating from going to the rodeo too often or whatever it is you do "for fun" over there. Relax and take a break.
Nah. My vice is Sanwa arcade buttons--I don't even play video games, and yet, I am obsessed with those things. (And if you're unfamiliar with them--don't look them up! They're irresistible.)
 
parmalee:
You're plainly delusional, James--no one has been talking about rodeos here.
Is it that you actually don't understand metaphors, or are you just feigning ignorance?

I repeat: Absolutely no one has been talking about rodeos. What are you on about?
It's a metaphor, parmalee. Look it up.
You're clearly foaming at the mouth and hallucinating from bath salts or Tide pods or whatever it is you do down there for "fun". Take a break. Regroup.
Thanks for your well-intentioned advice, parmalee. I will take it into consideration.
When you've recovered you can come back with your public apology and a retraction for all your lies.
Which lies? You haven't identified any.

You're just piling false accusation upon false accusation. You ought to publically apologise for your lies. If you're going to accuse somebody of lying, you need to be specific, parmalee. Otherwise, like here, it just looks like sour grapes or a petty personal vendetta.
Oh, and maybe then you could actually try reading the thread. You clearly haven't.
Sadly, parmalee, I've read every word you wrote in the JK Rowling thread. In total, I guess that's about an hour of my life I won't get back. Time not well spent, obviously. Oh well.

I'm done with you for now. Run along.
 
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