Origin of the Aryans

I am not very serious about it. Just angling to find more information.
Why did RigVeda say this? Svalbard has mid-night sun for four months.
 
Amar Nath Reu said:
From above: Aryans were from a place where there was continuous sun-shine for seven months and the sun faltered in the eighth month.
is there such a place in the world? What about Arctic regions?
Click to expand...
The word Aryan is used as title in India. The Aryans are Indians and only Indians ( Aryans) migrated outside India to middle east and Europe.
 
madethesame said:
The word Aryan is used as title in India. The Aryans are Indians and only Indians ( Aryans) migrated outside India to middle east and Europe.
Click to expand...
The name of the nation of Iran is derived from the word "Aryan." The various Persian peoples (Iranians, Pashtuns, Tajiks, etc.) are closely related to the various Indic peoples. Linguists call their group of languages Indo-Iranian.
 
You guys are fighting over items that happened some 100,000 years ago or before....since those data is not available...it is very tough...may be someday if we can get to the Library (if it exists) under Antarctica or some items on the Moon if available....we could find the Truth...or wait when the real Aryans show up some day soon from Mizar Star System....these are wishful thinking....but we (Indians) do have serious connection to Iran in social structure...Indo-Iranian and Indo-German...it is a mess out there...
 
kmguru said:
You guys are fighting over items that happened some 100,000 years ago or before....
Click to expand...
Homo sapiens did not migrate out of Africa until about 60,000 years ago. There were other related species living on other continents, notably H. neanderthalensis, but it's not clear that they played much of a role in the development of the culture our species built after becoming dominant.

The modern humans who lived in Africa 100KYA were nomadic hunter-gatherers with only paleolithic technology (stones, wood, and fires too cool to discover the chemistry needed to invent metal tools) who very likely had not even developed spoken language yet. It's unlikely that they did any of the things that have been suggested in this discussion.
 
Fraggle Rocker said:
Homo sapiens did not migrate out of Africa until about 60,000 years ago. There were other related species living on other continents, notably H. neanderthalensis, but it's not clear that they played much of a role in the development of the culture our species built after becoming dominant.

The modern humans who lived in Africa 100KYA were nomadic hunter-gatherers with only paleolithic technology (stones, wood, and fires too cool to discover the chemistry needed to invent metal tools) who very likely had not even developed spoken language yet. It's unlikely that they did any of the things that have been suggested in this discussion.
Click to expand...


Someday...you will find out the difference...before you pass away OR just after...then talk to me...you will find my link there...Good Luck...this is about 2015 and we are screwing around on half of a History...
 
Fraggle Rocker said:
The modern humans who lived in Africa 100KYA were nomadic hunter-gatherers with only paleolithic technology (stones, wood, and fires too cool to discover the chemistry needed to invent metal tools) who very likely had not even developed spoken language yet. It's unlikely that they did any of the things that have been suggested in this discussion.
Click to expand...
I doubt the underlined portion of your post. Even other simians communicate with each other, even dolphins do. What kind of level of development are you thinking of? IMHO, humans 100,000 years ago could communicate with me.
 
Amar Nath Reu said:
That section of the story is about 20,000 year old. :)
Click to expand...


Sorry...I was thinking of Aryan-Indian issues...if that is only 20K...so be it....I have no idea if Sanskrit was back 100K...Just the whole picture was way back that most people ...even Indians do not want to admit....yet I was from that part long ago that any Buddha can tell you on rebirth....Oh...well...
 
Dwaraka was about 12,000 years ago...meaning Mahabharat....going back to it, we can find out what is what....Then go back to Ramayana....Where Sanskrit came from?
 
That is simple (if you agree with the Arctic homeland theory). Aryans lived in sub-Arctic regions and spoke PIE. Ice-age pushed them South to Pontic steppes, from where they branched out. Part going to Balkans, Greece and beyond, part going to Armenia, Iran and India. Sanskrit derives from Vedic Sanskrit, which in turn is derived from PIE. That is why among other things, RigVeda talks about a dawn extending for one month and a night extending to two months.
 
While I have the right connections (from veil) now, that History is not important to me...for I have other things to do. I was told not to ask too many on the history items...as Christians killed those people in the past...including issues with one of my last birth in Italy....Hence all I was said is the Arctic theory that has Library, but we would not get there until Ice melts....then Christians will listen...no point fight with people who write the History now...

I really wanted to know, what happened between 100,000 years (I was there) and 12,000 years (Dwaraka, I was there)....but it is not really important....but I was told that Norse Mythology is also 12,000 years because that is when the second war happened (this new civilization from the past millions of years). That is because a Truce was set up and Lord Krishna group participated in it...hence no more fights...except when we start forming our interstellar system...they may come back...that is the Universal Law....

So, we better have out friends lined up before going outside the Solar System....

Rest is speculation...and I am for it...to talk...

Stuff to Think....
 
Last edited:
Amar Nath Reu said:
I doubt the underlined portion of your post. Even other simians communicate with each other, even dolphins do.
Click to expand...
While it's quite possible that dolphins have an oral language, humans are the only primates who have one. Of course we'd expect any highly intelligent creature to develop a system of communication, but our species is the only one whose communication system uses complex vocal sounds (beyond the level of barking single phonemes)--with the probable exception of the cetaceans as I noted above. The two species of gorilla and the two species of chimpanzee communicate in various ways and use a few sounds, but this does not satisfy the definition of a "language," which has to communicate more than one or two "words" at a time.

Both chimpanzees and gorillas have been taught American Sign Language, and have mastered vocabularies in the range of 1,000 words. One even taught it to her own baby. I'll certainly grant this to be "genuine language," but not one they invented on their own.

Orangutans are not as social as the other Great Apes. They aren't solitary creatures like tigers, but they aren't chummy enough to need a language to get along with each other.

What kind of level of development are you thinking of? IMHO, humans 100,000 years ago could communicate with me.
Click to expand...
Of course they must have been able to communicate at a rather sophisticated level to accomplish the things they did. But it's generally assumed that they did this with sign language. It's generally hypothesized today that humans developed spoken language around 70KYA. This is when the archeological record begins to show us sophisticated accomplishments that could not possibly have been done by people who were also using their hands for communication.

This is shortly before the first successful migration out of Africa around 60KYA. The ability to speak probably made the difference that allowed those adventurers to survive in a strange new place.

Sure, none of this has been proven because we haven't got a working time machine yet. But it's reasonable.
 
kmguru said:
I really wanted to know, what happened between 100,000 years (I was there) and 12,000 years (Dwaraka, I was there) ..
Click to expand...
Sage Atharva found fire, called it 'Grahyagni' (house fire), asked people to tend it five times a day, the son getting the 'grahyagni' from that of the father at the time of his marriage and the wife entrusted with tending it, .. and there were cows 'gawah' (I do not know if it meant Bos acutifrons or Rangifer tarandus). ;)
 
Amar Nath Reu said:
Sage Atharva found fire, called it 'Grahyagni' (house fire), asked people to tend it five times a day, the son getting the 'grahyagni' from that of the father at the time of his marriage and the wife entrusted with tending it, .. and there were cows 'gawah' (I do not know if it meant Bos acutifrons or Rangifer tarandus). ;)
Click to expand...

OR I could go into Out of Body Experience. I had some of that many years ago when I was living by myself on a project elsewhere...I was able to go to my past lives and see what I was doing...but did not/could not change anything perhaps because it was past...so get some experience in information....
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top