NY Governor, Eliot Spitzer, To Resign

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  1. Bells

    Bells Staff Member

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    Oh for God's sake, what part of "analogy" did you fail to comprehend?

    A similar analogy would be for someone who actively sought to jail people for harming the environment, then going home and dumping gallons of motor oil and pesticide down the drain.
     
    Bells, Mar 12, 2008
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  3. John99

    John99 Banned Banned

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    The guy had a weakness. We can all identify with that and for simply soliciting a call girl yields no jail time in U.S. I',m not condopning his behavior but come on people.
     
    John99, Mar 12, 2008
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  5. kmguru

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    It started with the British...when they went to India and saw pictures of Kama Sutra...they went nuts....and moved to USA....
     
    kmguru, Mar 12, 2008
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  7. Bells

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    It is not the fact that he hired prostitutes. It is the fact he worked so hard to jail people for the very crime he was committing at the same time. This is a man who relished going after white collar crime and threatening firms and individuals with imprisonment and ruin, all while he, himself, was committing the same crime. It is the hypocrisy that is astounding in all of this.

    He portrayed himself as the bastion of morality, jailing others for being involved in prostitution rings, all while he was actively seeking out the services of prostitutes from a prostitution ring.
     
    Bells, Mar 12, 2008
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  8. superstring01

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    Correct. I could NOT care less if he slept with a million women. In fact, that doesn't bother me in the least. What bothers me, and what Oreodont doesn't get, is that he put people in jail for that crime and then went and plugged hookers on the side. That's the issue. He's in the VERY SPECIFIC position to enforce laws. IF he chose not the pursue that career, this wouldn't be an issue. But he did, and it is.

    ~String
     
    superstring01, Mar 12, 2008
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  9. ElectricFetus

    ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    What if he was not known for busting prostitute rings? would he still be guilty, is it just the irony that makes it so horrible?
     
    ElectricFetus, Mar 12, 2008
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  10. Bells

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    Well yes. He would still be guilty if he broke the law.

    The irony is not just the fact that he actively went after others when he was an AG. The biggest irony is that he ran on a 'ethics' ticket:

     
    Bells, Mar 12, 2008
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  11. countezero

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    You mean it's not just a bunch of knuckle-dragging yokels from flyover country who care? Damn, that destroys my whole world-view.

    I don't view prostitution as a crime "without a victim," either. One doesn't have to dig very far into psychology to find opinions about the dangers of people engaging in tremendous amounts of sex with multiple partners. In other words, the toll taken on the prostitute should be considered. And as I have already mentioned, legalized prostitution, which I'm for in theory, doesn't seem to remove the social stigma attached to it and "clean" up this "consensual" transaction much.
     
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  12. Syzygys

    Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    Hehe, I had a feeling he was not going to resign. This morning the news is that he is negotiating with the police to dismiss charges...

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    Syzygys, Mar 12, 2008
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  13. LORD_VOLDEMORT

    LORD_VOLDEMORT Banned Banned

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    Damn The Moral Preachers.prostitution In My Opinion Should Be A Choice Among The Individual,i Say Fire The Hypocrite!!!!!!!!!!
     
    LORD_VOLDEMORT, Mar 12, 2008
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  14. draqon

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    poor dude. anyways Spitzer was lousy at his work, fire him not because of prostituion scandal but because of the way he kept NY looking like gurbage, which it is in essence.
     
    draqon, Mar 12, 2008
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  15. Ganymede

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    Spitzer has way to many powerful enemies on Wall Street. It was only a matter of time until they pinned something on him. He built his career on a foundation of morailty and personal responsibilty. I don't feel pitty for anyone that has benefitted from what I call reverse affirmative action. What I mean by this is, having a rich father and a vast network of affluent connections. Then have the audacity to say you made it all on your own.
     
    Ganymede, Mar 12, 2008
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  16. otheadp

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    When I was still in university, studying the terrible profession of financial accounting, and at the time on my path to becoming a chartered (certified professional) accountant, we were taught about this guy's crusade against corporate corruption. He became a sort of hero of mine at the time.

    This prostitution scandal he's been involved in is a nice reminder that he is only human. I think it's unreasonable to ask of leaders to be spotless and perfect. Every leader in history had a vice. JFK certainly did, when he turned the white house into a whore house. Churchill was a depressive drunk, and Bill Clinton cheated on his wife (and was accused of rape!).

    I think a bit of humanity should be tolerated. Sure he's a hypocrite, but so are all of us, and we shouldn't expect anything better. At least he's a hypocrite that has thrown corporate cowboys (people who in my mind deserve the death penalty) in jail, and cracked down on prostitution. He bettered life for his community. His personal vice is so insignificant and doesn't make my or your life any worse.

    Why not give him some slack?
     
    otheadp, Mar 12, 2008
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  17. countezero

    countezero Registered Senior Member

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    He resigned.
     
    countezero, Mar 12, 2008
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  18. draqon

    draqon Banned Banned

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    he's an old man.

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    draqon, Mar 12, 2008
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  19. otheadp

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    NY's loss, IMHO.
     
    otheadp, Mar 12, 2008
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  20. countezero

    countezero Registered Senior Member

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    So it would be NY's gain to have a politically ineffective Gov. being investigated and tried by federal authorities? Please, explain why.
     
    countezero, Mar 12, 2008
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  21. draqon

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    umm...NY's gain that he resigned. I am from NY, I am telling you.
     
    draqon, Mar 12, 2008
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  22. otheadp

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    You're probably right, actually, now that I think about it, but only because of his illegal alien policies. Not because the good citizens of NY state won't have a john as a governor.

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    You live in the US? Why not in Russia?
     
    otheadp, Mar 12, 2008
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  23. ashura

    ashura the Old Right Registered Senior Member

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    It's NY's loss that Spitz lacked self control and committed the crime to begin with. The resignation itself is not a loss. Count's response exactly explains why.
     
    ashura, Mar 12, 2008
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