Now remember how Israel started this war

isreal was forced into existence people of the region got cranky tried to take it back several times failed every time even with odds in their favor. As time passes on more and more muslims realize they will not get rid of israel. Now only a few fanatics still have the heart to carry on with the blood shed.

Israel acts the way it does because of how it was treated during its reincarnation. If i were in their shoes i would of been more aggresive earlier on. All while not giving back any land gains i make in the wars.
 
Yes, the misconception here is that the U.S. is protecting Israel, actually its the Arabs that the U.S. has been protecting, if we had let thing settle out in the previous wars and let Israel complete her victories I believe there wouldn't be the problems there are today with the Palestinians, the war would have been over and the rebuilding of the area would have taken place.
 
Buffalo Roam said:
Foley what kind of psychedelics are you taking? they must be good? but then again the way they affect your perception you can keep them, total nightmare.
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Seriously are you really American ? I swear English is not your first language I seriously do nor believe you are what you claim you are .
aaa said:
no no. hizballah attacked in ISRAELI TERRITORY. don't mess that up. the IDF soldiers were patroling the
border when suddenly got attacked.
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No you got it wrong Israel attacked the Palestinians .
marv said:
...and what else should be expected of Sami Moubayed (the author of Brian's posted article), a supporter of Yasser Arafat and the Muslim Brotherhood. Perhaps some truth for a change.
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Sami Moubayed is a Syrian political analyst you dont accept him because he is an Arab , but there again why should I accept what you advise afterall did you not adviuse me to mread Ayn Rand the Jewish Zionist freemarketeer to enlighten my economic plight .
marv said:
Brian, I told you that smoking pot would lead to harder drugs and damage your brain!
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Like I told you before Marv read a good porn magazine you will find it much more fufilling than Ayn Rand and the mastbation activity you will enjoy .
 
I guess the point is that both sides are wrong, but now media has took a swing towards Iran and Syria are to blame for Israel invading lebanon. In that light it would be a good idea to consider how these things start.
 
It would not surprise me at all if it was israeli troops mwhich had gone into lebanon.

Its funny really (not the consequencies) the israelis fuck up and then blast the shit out everything in sight just cos 2 of their soliders got captured in Lebanon
 
Zakariya04 said:
Its funny really (not the consequencies) the israelis fuck up and then blast the shit out everything in sight just cos 2 of their soliders got captured in Lebanon
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Captured in Israel. That's not the whole reason. Just like the second intifada - no way was that just because some guy visited a building. It's what they say, maybe, but there's a history of causes and then there's the straw that breaks the camel's back.
 
Brian Foley,
Seriously are you really American ? I swear English is not your first language I seriously do nor believe you are what you claim you are .
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I can't help you with your perceptions of reality, and I know you are not what you claim to be, that is the problem with the psychedelics class of drug your are on, they give a exaggerated feeling of self importance and grandeur, and are generally use by people like you in a dead end life for escape from the realization of it.
 
Zephyr said:
Captured in Israel. That's not the whole reason. Just like the second intifada - no way was that just because some guy visited a building. It's what they say, maybe, but there's a history of causes and then there's the straw that breaks the camel's back.
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true just needed the right pre-requiste to get the shit started!!!
 
When did this start? 2006, 1982, 1967, 1948, 1938, 1898, 600, 2000 BC ? And who started it? God?
 
Where it started doesn't really matter ... what matters is whether it ends in:

Peace (people living in liberty and safety)
or
Endless low level war with intermittent flare-ups
or
Peace (whole middle east one piece of nuclear-melted glass).
 
Zephyr said:
Where it started doesn't really matter ... what matters is whether it ends in:

Peace (people living in liberty and safety)
or
Endless low level war with intermittent flare-ups
or
Peace (whole middle east one piece of nuclear-melted glass).
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Absoluetely correct Zep

i hope all si good with you mate
 
Foley: Just Re what you said above. No you got it wrong, palestine attacked Israel, and bang, the endless circle of debate as to who attacked who first goes on and on and on. Facts are Facts, Israel attacked Palestinian government buildings, Palestine hits back with bombs, Israel patrols border near lebanon, Israeli's get captured, Israel attacks Hezbollah. And like Zephyr stated what really matters is how it ends.
 
Zephyr:
Captured in Israel. That's not the whole reason. Just like the second intifada - no way was that just because some guy visited a building. It's what they say, maybe, but there's a history of causes and then there's the straw that breaks the camel's back.
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As always, you make very perceptive and accurate observations. I really despise how most media channels act as though the kidnappings were the start points of a spanking new conflict. They act as though there have been no new settlements, no houses and orchards bulldozed, no Palestinian parliamentary members abducted and assassinated, no taxes stolen, no skirmishes along the Lebanese-Israeli border.
Nope, one day, a couple of Hezbollah operatives just woke up and said. "Oh, I say, I'm a little bored. Hey, I have an idea, let's capture a few Israeli soldiers, and hold them hostage. That ought to be jolly good fun, wot wot!"
 
First of all, since when has kidnapping been good enough reason to bomb another country? It seems these days that any reason is good enough to start a war. I agree with your take on the media, they have been orchestrated in such a way to make the conflict appear balanced and fair. The media is now showing foreigners leaving Lebanon and Isreal as if that is news, talk about priorities, babies are being torn to pieces while CNN is showing us repulsive looking money-hungry foreigners leaving on boats every few minutes; can't these guys just leave once and for all and let the show and charade countinue?
 
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Liban: le Hezbollah capture deux soldats israéliens, sept autres tués
Selon la police libanaise, les deux soldats ont été capturés en territoire libanais, dans la région de Aïta al-Chaab près de la frontière, alors que la télévision israélienne a indiqué qu'ils avaient été capturés en territoire israélien.
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TRANSLATION: According to the Lebanese police force, the two soldiers were captured in Lebanese territory, in the area of Aïta Al-Chaab close to the border, whereas Israeli television indicated that they had been captured in Israeli territory.

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This is Aïta al-Chaab in arabic-[أتا] [أل-شب] as named in the article, this is Ayta ash Shab as named on the map,in arabic, [أتا] رماد [شب] they are not the same location these are two different cities, great reference for facts two different locations.
 
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