No more Jews

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Thats because they don't exist/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teudat_Zehut

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After the modern State of Israel was born, all but a few native Palestinian Jews became citizens of Israel, and the term "Palestinian Jews" largely fell into disuse. The preferred term today in Israel is the abovementioned "Old Yishuv" (in Hebrew היישוב הישן, HaYishuv HaYashan or "The Old Settlement").
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Jew

IOW, there are no "Palestinian Jews"
 
Not with green cards, ie Palestinian citizenship, they don't. By definition, then, they are Israelis, not Palestinians
 
S.A.M. said:
Not with green cards, ie Palestinian citizenship, they don't. By definition, then, they are Israelis, not Palestinians
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"all but a few native Palestinian Jews became citizens of Israel"

So there are some native Palestinians that are Jews.
 
Okay, then you can decide if they are Jews or Palestinians based on the argument.

Meanwhile, the OP stands.
 
S.A.M. said:
To highlight how silly the whole antisemitic debate is, I shall, until further notice, refer to Jews as non-Palestinians. This should put them in a sufficiently broad category that it is no longer antisemitic.
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It's always "us and them" to you, isn't it? That would be the Islamic ideology causing much division within you.

So as of now, until further notice there are no more Jews. If I do occasionally slip up and mention them, please substitute non-Palestinians in their stead. Thanks.
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It doesn't change your agenda or your trolling in the least, so what's the difference?
 
S.A.M. said:
To highlight how silly the whole antisemitic debate is, I shall, until further notice, refer to Jews as non-Palestinians. This should put them in a sufficiently broad category that it is no longer antisemitic.

Hopefully.

So as of now, until further notice there are no more Jews. If I do occasionally slip up and mention them, please substitute non-Palestinians in their stead. Thanks.

Meanwhile please note that quotes or images with the word "the Jews" from other sources, should be also read as "non-Palestinians".



P.S. This is on consideration of advice received from a member whose views I do respect on the fallacy of using "the Jews" to denote self described followers [and rejectors] of Judaism. This is therefore an exercise in de-emotionalising a term.
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Fascinating. Yet I think the problem is more the "the Jews". It's like "the Muslims" - why would one say it that way? It implies something subtly distasteful. It doesn't work as well for muslims, mind you - how about "the blacks"? Carries some extra meaning.
 
If they were, I might.

They aren't, so I don't.

You got to put away the crack before it puts you away.
 
GeoffP said:
Fascinating. Yet I think the problem is more the "the Jews". It's like "the Muslims" - why would one say it that way? It implies something subtly distasteful. It doesn't work as well for muslims, mind you - how about "the blacks"? Carries some extra meaning.
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I don't know. There's an indigenous Canadian writer who rationalizes her refusal (inability? I'll not assume) to abide by the conventions of the English language with the ol' oppression/colonialism argument--laziness compels me to not elaborate, anyways, you get the picture. Sure, one might read a certain connotation based upon prior experience with the employer of the phrase in question, but the fact is: the Jews commonly refer to themselves as the Jews, and I don't think their employment of such is in the same spirit as, say, the reappropriation of "nigga/nigger," as there's no reappropriation. Still, if one must, I think ya can come up with something better than non-Palestinians.


edit: repeated typos
 
S.A.M. said:
To highlight how silly the whole antisemitic debate is, I shall, until further notice, refer to Jews as non-Palestinians. This should put them in a sufficiently broad category that it is no longer antisemitic.

Hopefully.

So as of now, until further notice there are no more Jews. If I do occasionally slip up and mention them, please substitute non-Palestinians in their stead. Thanks.

Meanwhile please note that quotes or images with the word "the Jews" from other sources, should be also read as "non-Palestinians".



P.S. This is on consideration of advice received from a member whose views I do respect on the fallacy of using "the Jews" to denote self described followers [and rejectors] of Judaism. This is therefore an exercise in de-emotionalising a term.
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Personnaly SAM, i have no problem with you using Jews. I would prefer actually if you use the term Jews instead of non Palestinians.
 
Could we have some fun with Sam and re-write the lyrics to "No More Tears" by Ozzie Osbourne?
 
fedr808 said:
Personnaly SAM, i have no problem with you using Jews. I would prefer actually if you use the term Jews instead of non Palestinians.
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Yes, I actually respect non-Palestinians who follow the Abrahamic religion of Moses on this forum more than the ones who flap around on their behalf. From A to Z I have no problem arguing with NPWFTHAR about their attitudes and beliefs. Its the others who are a major issue and can't seem to cross the hurdle. I don't recall having any particular problems discussing issues with you either. Perhaps the politically correct/incorrect nature of society plays a role in our responses? I find the Americans much more relaxed than the Australians on the whole, except for republicans, that is.
 
ghsa said:
ban the jews!
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wow, you know, there should be a 100 post minimum for using sarcasm, cuz when someguy with 5 says soemthing like that, you cant tell if its someone making a joke, or just 420joey's puppet
 
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