spidergoat
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There are many known inhibitors to Maillard reactions, so that's not actually an obstacle.
Most British scientists: Richard Dawkins' work misrepresents science
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Lets go back to why life can even exist in the first place . does life USE non-living material to manifest life ? of course it does . obviously since we need certain minerals to function normally.
Every life form does so .
But to me every life form tries to reach its full potenial.
And this has to do with this being , ID , if you like , being in every sub-quantum particle .
Non-living, or abiogenesis substance has the ability to form life given the right enviroment, the right combination of abiogenesis, molecule , because the potential of life was already imbeded into the sub-quantum particle , in the first place .
Because this being is the essence of all plasma and matter , magnetic fields , vibration , space , electromagnetism etc. this being is the Universe . in every way shape or form .
Every life form does so .
But to me every life form tries to reach its full potenial.
And this has to do with this being , ID , if you like , being in every sub-quantum particle .
Non-living, or abiogenesis substance has the ability to form life given the right enviroment, the right combination of abiogenesis, molecule , because the potential of life was already imbeded into the sub-quantum particle , in the first place .
Because this being is the essence of all plasma and matter , magnetic fields , vibration , space , electromagnetism etc. this being is the Universe . in every way shape or form .
Every life form tries to live and reproduce. If it can do so so by "losing potential" in your eyes it will do so.
Cave fish rapidly lose their eyes as they evolve to their new environment. You may consider that "not reaching their full potential" but they nevertheless evolve in that direction.
If you define "intelligent design" as "design that uses existing physical properties to explain the beginnings of life" then that's fine. But that's also not what "intelligence" means. By that definition, a rock is intelligent, because it will fall in accordance with gravity - and gravity is embedded in the physical principles that govern the rock.
I've said it before but seems like needs repeating.
You can't assign a purpose to life.
I sometimes think this absence of a "reason" and "goal" for life leads to god belief.
If you think about earth full of life but devoid of humans. I consider it would trundle along just nicely.
Add thinking humans to the mix who stick their nose into everything (not life wanting but the intelligence of man questioning).
Finding no purpose for life to exist, let alone kick in to start with, god was invented.
He's got the plan and he knows the purpose ie someone up there is looking after us.
Question from one of my thought bubbles.
How many skyscrapers would have been built if no one on site had copies of the plan and the only one in "existence" only existed in the mind of the builder?
So this is the first time I have seen any description of the ID'er.
Turns out he/she/it (ID'er) is not a single thinking entity but is embedded in every atom. Shades of he is everywhere?
Can such a system be capable of thought and design?
Or are the laws of physics keeping everything in order giving the appearance of design?
Humpty Dumpty rules
It also has the potential to be a part of the seafloor, or part of a lava flow, or part of a beach, or the top of a tall mountain. Which of those is "reaching its full potential?" In terms of physics, the most potential is achieved by being at the top of that mountain (potential = MGH.) You may have a different answer, but that answer is based on your beliefs and values, and is not universal by any means.
river, the definition and meaning of Abiogenisis is life from non life.
ID is defined as some intelligent intervention to create life by magic.
No, a rock by itself. cannot bring forth life even in the lifetime of the universe.
Abiogenisis is a result of chemistry and reactions between different aspects of non life to produce life. A rock will never do that by itself.
The "primordial soup" theory of abiogenesis is a chemistry of muck and sludge with probably electricity [lightning] to finally produce self-reproducing organisms around 3.5 billion years ago, soon after the Earth cooled down enough to let that happen.
We as Humans need to find purpose in our existence .
So this is the first time I have seen any description of the ID'er.
Turns out he/she/it (ID'er) is not a single thinking entity but is embedded in every atom. Shades of he is everywhere?
Can such a system be capable of thought and design?
Or are the laws of physics keeping everything in order giving the appearance of design?
Humpty Dumpty rules
To be honest I thought that this concept of the Universe as a mind was mine alone , I was wrong .
The Egyptians thought the same . Just found this out about a month ago . by reading R.A.Schwaller de Lubicz book The Temple of Man . ( his small book , Sacred Architecture and the Perfect Man) Of course he refers to this being as a god, I don't . Complicated read .
This being or god is not a system but is imbeded in all things .
The rock has minerals that the body needs . that is what I was getting at .
The rock by itself has absolutely no potential for abiogenisis or life.
Really .
So the rock form is infinite in its form , is it ?
So how do rivers form in mountains , and mountains never erode ?
How silly of you pad .
You mean how silly and obtuse of you river.This is about abiogenisis...life from non life...or chemistry, and reactions between various matter and such.
This is about the stupidity and mythical nature of ID as normally defined, not something you define from some book of the calibre of the one where you claimed nuclear war on Mars between alien races.
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Really .
What happens when rocks erode pad ?
Really .
This is about abiogenisis...life from non life...or chemistry, and reactions between various matter and such.
This is about the stupidity and mythical nature of ID as normally defined, not something yo define from some book of the calibre of the one where you claimed nuclear war on Mars between alien races.
What happens when rocks erode pad ?
A rock in any form, by itself will not form life.
yes...Abiogenisis is the only scientific possibility of how we explain life.
ID is totally mythical as per the many papers and lectures I have linked to and which no doubt as standard science, you have ignored.
Now I did ask you a question the other day and you were unable to answer it.
Now you come up with this fabricated nonsense re rocks with ID capability!
Was this from the same bloke who claims Aliens have had an atomic war on Mars?yes...Abiogenisis is the only scientific possibility of how we explain life.
ID is totally mythical as per the many papers and lectures I have linked to and which no doubt as standard science, you have ignored.
Now I did ask you a question the other day and you were unable to answer it.
Now you come up with this fabricated nonsense re rocks with ID capability!
I meant your post # 815 pad.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._A._Schwaller_de_Lubicz
René Adolphe Schwaller de Lubicz (December 7, 1887 – 1961), born René Adolphe Schwaller in Alsace-Lorraine, was a French occultist, student of sacred geometry and Egyptologist known for his twelve-year study of the art and architecture of the Temple of Luxor in Egypt and his subsequent book The Temple In Man.[
Schwaller de Lubicz often referred to the books of Moses in the same light as Egyptian theocratic philosophy—as containing universal esoteric principles.
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'Nuff said about this looney!
You see river, people here constantly rebuke your nonsense, not so much because its nonsense, but because you put it as absolute fact.
As you did your crazy Alien war on Mars...
You may disgree with mainstream science as much as you like, but please don't put your alternative nonsense as gospel in the science threads please. That is against the rules and partly why you have just recently had a holiday.
He read it in a book!So this is the first time I have seen any description of the ID'er.
Turns out he/she/it (ID'er) is not a single thinking entity but is embedded in every atom. Shades of he is everywhere?
Can such a system be capable of thought and design?
Humpty Dumpty rules
He also claimed Aliens have had a nuclear war on Mars: He read that in a book too!
Probably the same store I brought the book The Big Bad Wolf and the three little piggies from when I was a tin lid.