Most Annoying Saying

one_raven said:
My children will not do that.
Respect is required and earned.
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Actually we respect my mum more. She was honest, direct, aware of her failings and had the capacity to allow us to be ourselves even if it went against her personal beliefs and ideals and had the ability to make us aware of these differences without being judgmental. Children do grow up, you know. I think the fact that all of us are highly individualistic speaks to this more than "moulding" us into any preformatted version of personhood would have.
 
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S.A.M. said:
Children do grow up, you know.
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Yes they do - some of them, anyway.
I don't understand your point.
Children grow up and it is the responsibility of the parents to help shape and mold them. Allow them to be their own person, but help that development by instilling such values and respect for others, self-discipline and common courtesy.
 
one_raven said:
Yes they do - some of them, anyway.
I don't understand your point.
Children grow up and it is the responsibility of the parents to help shape and mold them. Allow them to be their own person, but help that development by instilling such values and respect for others, self-discipline and common courtesy.
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That assumes that if you did not "instill" these values into them, they would not acquire them. I would assume that teaching your children the difference between different modes of behaviour and how they are perceived by others may be more useful than attempting to teach them "right" and "wrong" because morality should be based on choices you want to make, not choices others think you should make.

But that is just my opinion. While I do get mad when I disagree, I am not a believer in punishment over understanding. I think that teaching children that bad equals punishment is not the right way to instill values. I'm biased of course, since I was never really punished [except once, but thats another story]
 
S.A.M. said:
That assumes that if you did not "instill" these values into them, they would not acquire them. I would assume that teaching your children the difference between different modes of behaviour and how they are perceived by others may be more useful than attempting to teach them "right" and "wrong" because morality should be based on choices you want to make, not choices others think you should make.

But that is just my opinion. While I do get mad when I disagree, I am not a believer in punishment over understanding. I think that teaching children that bad equals punishment is not the right way to instill values. I'm biased of course, since I was never really punished [except once, but thats another story]
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I mostly agree with you, but when a child is old enough to know the blatant disrespect that comes along with such a dismissive action, they should be held accountable for those decisions they make.
If they do not give respect, they do not get respect. If they can not treat their family with respect, they should recognize that there are consequences for that decision.
Were you never even scolded for misbehaving? Scolding is just another form of punishment.
 
But if you're punishing him when he cannot understand the distinction, what are you teaching him, really?

Were you never even scolded for misbehaving? Scolding is just another form of punishment.
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Not really. I was a good girl. :p

edit: ah I misread. You said punishing after they are old enough. How would you decide they are old enough?
 
S.A.M. said:
But if you're punishing him when he cannot understand the distinction, what are you teaching him, really?
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Nothing, obviously.
He daughter is certainly old enough to understand.
She said she knew she was in trouble as soon as she said it.


S.A.M. said:
Not really. I was a good girl. :p
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Liar... :D
S.A.M. said:
My mum we walked all over.
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You said your dad played "bad cop". That, to me, says he was the disciplinarian. If he didn't punish or scold - how did he discipline?

S.A.M. said:
edit: ah I misread. You said punishing after they are old enough. How would you decide they are old enough?
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When thy know better. It's not an age - it is a level of understanding.
 
Well, the following isn't a "saying" in the strict sense, but I dislike to read posts filled with however. Almost every daft forum user, not just speaking of this forum, uses this word at least ten times in each of their posts. Okay..ten times is a bit exaggerated, but hopefully you catch the drift.
 
PsychoTropicPuppy said:
Well, the following isn't a "saying" in the strict sense, but I dislike to read posts filled with however. Almost every daft forum user, not just speaking of this forum, uses this word at least ten times in each of their posts. Okay..ten times is a bit exaggerated, but hopefully you catch the drift.
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It is a useful word, however.
 
^ is that grammatically correct at all?:bugeye:
I didn't know that you can put however at the end of a sentence...and somehow it doesn't make sense.
 
one_raven said:
Liar... :D
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No truly, it was awful, I was such a cheerful, well behaved kid.

You said your dad played "bad cop". That, to me, says he was the disciplinarian. If he didn't punish or scold - how did he discipline?
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He gave us the eye. That was it, it was also usually sufficient. Of course, now we know he was faking it. But he has big eyes. :eek:


When thy know better. It's not an age - it is a level of understanding.
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I prefer to think of it as a difference of opinion.
 
When someone says "irregardless" or a similar one-word double-negative, I develop a nervous twitch in my right arm.

Also, when someone says "rate of speed", I see red. Seriously, speed is, in itself, a rate. It's a rate of change in distance. It's not a rate of a rate of a change in distance. GrrrrRRRR!!!! *turns green, grows big, breaks down the wall, storms the freeway swatting news choppers*
 
I hate when people use 'literally' wrong. Such as "It was so awful, I literally died from embarrassment"
Um, no, you didn't.
 
ScaryMonster said:
I hate the expressing "Totally Sick", yes it is sickening.:splat:
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I agree. I saw that on Extreme Makeover Home Edition and I was confused. My son had to explain it to me. I'm so old.
I also find it annoying when 'stupid' is used in the same way.
 
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