Light - solid, liquid or gas?

Where's your intestinal fortitude jcc?
Again,
The evidence for your trolling is here as is the evidence of you continually asking the same questions.
What do you believe? What do you accept? The reason you do not accept answers is because you fail to understand the answers, and are not interested in them anyway. You have an agenda? You want science to fall down on its collective knees and say "God did it!" You don't like the fact that science has pushed the need for any God back to near oblivion. You fail to understand that you are where you are today because of science. You fail to accept that what you are currently doing and using, came about because of our understanding of particles, forces, and quantum effects...You ignorantly take your computer for granted. You ignorantly take all your mod cons and electricity for granted.

I told you previously which you ignorantly ignored.....science may not know the deeper understanding of why gravity is as it is, or why the EMF is as it is.
Science is about constructing models to explain the behaviour of all we see, and the movement of the Universe around us. Those models enable us to go to the Moon, send probes to all the planets in the solar system, to construct televisions, computers, self drive cars, self opening doors etc.


If it wasn't for science, you would be with your cousins in the trees you troll.
You ignorantly ignore all this that surrounds you and then pretends to be interested in science?
 
jcc said:
why is atoms not compressible even it contains 99.99% empty space?

why is electron not discharge into proton? any stronger em field/higher voltage exist?

how can electrons orbit 3D space? isn't all solar systems orbits are 2D?

again, wiki has no answers. otherwise, please show me.

Sweet evening!
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You've already asked those questions. Why don't you look up the answers you were given the last several times, instead of expecting people to repeat the answers yet again just so you can disagree?
 
Daecon said:
You've already asked those questions. Why don't you look up the answers you were given the last several times, instead of expecting people to repeat the answers yet again just so you can disagree?
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there is no answers. otherwise please show me.
 
jcc said:
maybe you guys are trolling?
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Probably not. Pretty sure it's just you. Nobody could legitimately be that dense, so it is almost certainly on purpose or mental illness -- and even if it is mental illness, functionally it presents the same, so it is just as unacceptable.
there is no answers.
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Just to re-state the obvious: science doesn't have answers to all questions, just the scientific ones. You've already been given answers to the scientific ones and told the non-scientific ones don't have scientific answers. So for both cases, there is no reason for you to keep asking, nor is it an insult - even though you clearly intend it to be - to point out that science does not hold the answer to a question not in its perview.
 
which of my question is non-scientific?

any of my questions is not legit?

isn't all theories we see are the answers of science?
 
jcc said:
which of my question is non-scientific?

any of my questions is not legit?

isn't all theories we see are the answers of science?
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Again: all of those have already been answered. There is no reason why I should need to answer them again. That wasn't the point of my post. And there is no reason for you to ask again for answers to questions you already know. Except....oh, right.
 
jcc said:
maybe you guys are trolling?
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jcc said:
why is atoms not compressible even it contains 99.99% empty space?

why is electron not discharge into proton? any stronger em field/higher voltage exist?

how can electrons orbit 3D space? isn't all solar systems orbits are 2D?

again, wiki has no answers. otherwise, please show me.

Sweet evening!
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All your questions have been answered jcc and if you claim otherwise you are a liar.
In fact all have been answered more than once.
Why the hell do you believe atoms are not compressible?
Ever heard of White Dwarf stars, Neutron stars and BH's
Like I said, your questions have been answered troll and you are a liar if you say that have not.
 
never mind, please pretend i never asked any questions in this thread.
paddoboy said:
All your questions have been answered jcc and if you claim otherwise you are a liar.
In fact all have been answered more than once.
Why the hell do you believe atoms are not compressible?
Ever heard of White Dwarf stars, Neutron stars and BH's
Like I said, your questions have been answered troll and you are a liar if you say that have not.
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answered? where? what's the answer?

why is atoms not compressible even it contains 99.99% empty space?

why is electron not discharge into proton? any stronger em field/higher voltage exist?

how can electrons orbit 3D space? isn't all solar systems orbits are 2D?
 
jcc said:
why is atoms not compressible even it contains 99.99% empty space?

why is electron not discharge into proton? any stronger em field/higher voltage exist?

how can electrons orbit 3D space? isn't all solar systems orbits are 2D?
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The first one is a wrong question, but all can easily be answered with a google. But again, since you claim to already know the answers, this is just trolling.
 
jcc said:
why is atoms not compressible even it contains 99.99% empty space?
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They are compressible
jcc said:
why is electron not discharge into proton? any stronger em field/higher voltage exist?
I am wondering why electrons don�t crash into protons, thus destroying the world. The only reasons I can find are because electrons can only exist in electron orbitals and at certain energy levels. Why can electrons only exist in these conditions?
- Mary Woodruff
Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
A:
Mary- That's a really important and deep question. I've borrowed part of our answer to a related question, because this one is important enough to answer more than once.

Naturally, one would think that because protons are positively charged, and electrons are negatively charged, the two should attract and stick together. The reason that doesn't happen can't even begin to be explained using classical physics. This was one of the key mysteries that were cleared up right away by the invention of quantum mechanics around 1925.

The picture you often see of electrons as small objects circling a nucleus in well defined "orbits" is actually quite wrong. As we now understand it, the electrons aren't really at any one place at any time at all. Instead they exist as a sort of cloud. The cloud can compress to a very small space briefly if you probe it in the right way, but before that it really acts like a spread-out cloud.

The weird thing about that cloud is that its spread in space is related to the spread of possible momenta (or velocities) of the electron. So here's the key point, which we won't pretend to explain here. The more squashed in the cloud gets, the more spread out the range of momenta has to get. That's called Heisenberg's uncertainty principle. It could quit moving if it spread out more, but that would mean not being as near the nucleus, and having higher potential energy. Big momenta mean big kinetic energies. So the cloud can lower its potential energy by squishing in closer to the nucleus, but when it squishes in too far its kinetic energy goes up more than its potential energy goes down. So it settles at a happy medium, with the lowest possible energy, and that gives the cloud and thus the atom its size.

That basically answers your question, although we admit that the answer sounds strange. There really are very definite mathematical descriptions to go along with those words.

One fine point -- a small bit of the electron clouds actually extend inside the protons and neutrons of their atoms. The lucky thing for us is that the electrons and protons (and neutrons) do not interact in a way that changes them, in most atoms. The force of electrical attraction does not change the electrons, protons, or neutrons' identities and an electron may pass through a nucleus.

Some nuclei however, with an excess of protons and not enough neutrons to be perfectly stable, will capture one of the inner electrons turning one of the protons into a neutron and ejecting an electron neutrino. This process involves the weak nuclear force. The process must be energetically favored -- the energy of the resulting nucleus must be lower than that of the original one, which keeps it from happening over and over until all the protons are gone. The protons and neutrons obey the Pauli exclusion principle separately and fill up definite energy levels inside the nucleus. If there are too many protons, one can turn into a neutron by capturing an electron and emitting a neutrino, and drop down to a lower energy level. If you have more neutrons, then turning a proton into a neutron means it has to climb to a higher energy level, and conservation of energy keeps the reaction from happening.

A neutron is just a tiny bit heavier than a proton. If it were the other way around, Hydrogen atoms would be unstable under electron capture, and neutrons would never decay and the Universe would be a very very different place.

By the way, you raise another point, about electrons only being in particular orbits and energy levels. People (and textbooks) often say things like that. There was a brief first attempt (by Bohr) at describing atoms that way, which was abandoned when real quantum mechanics was developed. It's not just that there aren't real orbits. It's also not true that an electron has to be in just one of the states with definite energy. It can be partly in each of several, just as it can be partly in various places, and partly going various directions.
https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=1199

jcc said:
how can electrons orbit 3D space? isn't all solar systems orbits are 2D?
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????? -_O
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paddoboy said:
They are compressible
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gas is compressible. not liquid and solid matter. water's compressibility is about 1/10^10, seems electron clouds in the atoms are not compressible?

that long answer is ??? do you understand it at all?
 
jcc said:
gas is compressible. not liquid and solid matter. water's compressibility is about 1/10^10, seems electron clouds in the atoms are not compressible?

that long answer is ??? do you understand it at all?
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Clearly, that is a knowing self-contradiction, since in the very next breath after saying liquids are not compressible, you pointed out that water is, in fact compressible by listing its compressibility factor!
 
Russ_Watters said:
Clearly, that is a knowing self-contradiction, since in the very next breath after saying liquids are not compressible, you pointed out that water is, in fact compressible by listing its compressibility factor!
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so if you have 1/10^10 usd, you are rich?

thanks for the relief, you guys made me so depressed all day long.
 
jcc said:
so if you have 1/10^10 usd, you are rich?

thanks for the relief, you guys made me so depressed all day long.
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Are you going to address the following troll?
Or are you as ignorant and as dishonest as your posts suggest?
The evidence for your trolling is here as is the evidence of you continually asking the same questions.
What do you believe? What do you accept? The reason you do not accept answers is because you fail to understand the answers, and are not interested in them anyway. You have an agenda? You want science to fall down on its collective knees and say "God did it!" You don't like the fact that science has pushed the need for any God back to near oblivion. You fail to understand that you are where you are today because of science. You fail to accept that what you are currently doing and using, came about because of our understanding of particles, forces, and quantum effects...You ignorantly take your computer for granted. You ignorantly take all your mod cons and electricity for granted.

I told you previously which you ignorantly ignored.....science may not know the deeper understanding of why gravity is as it is, or why the EMF is as it is.
Science is about constructing models to explain the behaviour of all we see, and the movement of the Universe around us. Those models enable us to go to the Moon, send probes to all the planets in the solar system, to construct televisions, computers, self drive cars, self opening doors etc.


If it wasn't for science, you would be with your cousins in the trees you troll.
You ignorantly ignore all this that surrounds you and then pretends to be interested in science?
 
paddoboy said:
Are you going to address the following troll?
Or are you as ignorant and as dishonest as your posts suggest?
The evidence for your trolling is here as is the evidence of you continually asking the same questions.
What do you believe? What do you accept? The reason you do not accept answers is because you fail to understand the answers, and are not interested in them anyway. You have an agenda? You want science to fall down on its collective knees and say "God did it!" You don't like the fact that science has pushed the need for any God back to near oblivion. You fail to understand that you are where you are today because of science. You fail to accept that what you are currently doing and using, came about because of our understanding of particles, forces, and quantum effects...You ignorantly take your computer for granted. You ignorantly take all your mod cons and electricity for granted.

I told you previously which you ignorantly ignored.....science may not know the deeper understanding of why gravity is as it is, or why the EMF is as it is.
Science is about constructing models to explain the behaviour of all we see, and the movement of the Universe around us. Those models enable us to go to the Moon, send probes to all the planets in the solar system, to construct televisions, computers, self drive cars, self opening doors etc.


If it wasn't for science, you would be with your cousins in the trees you troll.
You ignorantly ignore all this that surrounds you and then pretends to be interested in science?
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pretend?

human been smoke for how long? how many smokers today alive?

who discovered oxi vaping? who invented the best vaping tool and method? google a little.
 
jcc said:
never mind, please pretend i never asked any questions in this thread.


answered? where? what's the answer?

why is atoms not compressible even it contains 99.99% empty space?

why is electron not discharge into proton? any stronger em field/higher voltage exist?

how can electrons orbit 3D space? isn't all solar systems orbits are 2D?
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i am done with this thread until someone answer the above questions in retails with logic and physics laws.

Wish you all a great day!
 
jcc said:
i am done with this thread until someone answer the above questions in retails with logic and physics laws.

Wish you all a great day!
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You have yet to address my post 96?
What answer do you expect? What answer will you accept? We all know that don't we?
God did it!!!:rolleyes:
That's the only answer you have branded in your mind, and you are not going to accept anything else.
So why infest a science forum? Why not go to some religious/creationist site?
I'll answer that for you too. You are in effect itching for a permanent ban [which in time will come] so that you are then able to claim victim status, and reveal it to your congregation about all those evil science dudes.
Have I come close to your modus operandi?
 
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