exchemist
Valued Senior Member
Cap'n, did you ever get an answer to this?
LENR (Low Energy Nuclear Reactions).
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Cap'n, did you ever get an answer to this?
He said he was going to look into it.
That was a few days ago.
I'll ask him if he has found out anything.
James is going to find out what happened to the thread.
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KitemanSA
Registered Senior Member
The attraction between positive and negative particles is equally strong. Think muon catalyzed fusion. Cold fusion is KNOWN to exist in that case. Why is it so hard to conceive that another path may exist?
He launched a query in the Mod lounge, currently it seems the thread is AWOL. It might still exist in spirit, however the database isn't very good at being a medium. If it's of super importance an Admin might repair it using a database backup, otherwise you'll be stuck with having to discuss the whole thing from afresh.
It isn't of super importance to myself, but there was a lot of useful information on that thread for someone studying the subject.
Yes, I would like it back if that's possible.
If James can just read it and copy the non-crap, not-only-pure-opinion, posts into a new thread, that would be a useful improvement of the thread. I posted some stuff (calculations, etc.) that would be worth saving if not too much trouble.
That would be an enormous job. No-one will do it. Waste of time.
It would be best to restore it all, if possible.
It might not be possible. It has been hard deleted, and some of it could be written over.
I know it was a long thread with a lot of content, but since kwhilborn started it and it was initially about Rossi, it was always going to keep circling back to that. Better IMO to reboot along a different path.
exchemist
Valued Senior Member
Agree. I found it educational as to the claims made by the LENR fraternity, not just Rossi. Although it is tempting to dismiss it all as pseudoscience, it has enough meat to it that, like creationism, it is worth knowing a bit about it, if only to be able to challenge it from a position of knowledge rather than mere prejudice.
Yazata
Valued Senior Member
The never-ending cold-fusion thread always annoyed me a little bit, because it was always the first thing that newcomers saw when they visited Sciforums.
But instead of simply deleting it, it should have been kept intact and moved down to the 'alternative theories' forum. Wasn't that forum created precisely to host things like that?
But instead of simply deleting it, it should have been kept intact and moved down to the 'alternative theories' forum. Wasn't that forum created precisely to host things like that?
I'm pretty sure it wasn't anyone's intension to delete it, at least from the moderators perspective. If it was deleted it was likely either due to an error when editing/moving or merging threads to it or a database error. (I'm not even sure when it initially went missing)
Are you sure that the illuminati in black heliocopters working with shadow New World Order didn't take the thread to one of the FEMA concentrations camps to deny humanity free energy? Hmmmmmmmm?
It was first reported missing by Gerrit
01-27-14, 08:05 AM UK Time.
Lets look at the evidence.
Motive. Who would want to murder the LENR thread? And Why???
Opportunity. Which Mods were on Duty when it was killed?
01-27-14, 08:05 AM UK Time.
Lets look at the evidence.
Motive. Who would want to murder the LENR thread? And Why???
Opportunity. Which Mods were on Duty when it was killed?
And means. Was it the candlestick or the knife?
Timeline 01-19-14 Kwhilborn is permabanned for creating a sockpuppet
01-20-14, 03:43 AM British Time. Kwhillborn opens a new thread with a sockpuppet called Yetanothersock.
The thread was called LENR (Low Energy Nuclear reactions)
Now, why would Kwhilborn have opened up a new thread on LENR if the old thread was still available?
My conjecture is that he returned to the site to make a post on his old haunt, but couldn't find it.
So, he opened a new thread on the same subject.
If so, the the original LENR thread disappeared less than 24hrs after Kwhilborn was permabanned.
A coincidence? Or something more sinister?
01-20-14, 03:43 AM British Time. Kwhillborn opens a new thread with a sockpuppet called Yetanothersock.
The thread was called LENR (Low Energy Nuclear reactions)
Now, why would Kwhilborn have opened up a new thread on LENR if the old thread was still available?
My conjecture is that he returned to the site to make a post on his old haunt, but couldn't find it.
So, he opened a new thread on the same subject.
If so, the the original LENR thread disappeared less than 24hrs after Kwhilborn was permabanned.
A coincidence? Or something more sinister?
Considering the leniency of threads that are ridiculous, I doubt anyone would of had a motive. Considering it was an Old thread and had thousands of posts, it wouldn't/shouldn't have been purposely deleted. There are plenty of external links that point to that thread URL, so it's not a plot by the Administrators of the site (It would be like destroying their own site from the inside).
No moderators have stepped forwards to suggest there was any errors, the only people that would have control over that thread would be the moderators assigned to that subforum, super-mods (myself included) and Administrators.
General Science and Technology does have a lot of spammers land in that forum, but for the most part removing their spam is pretty simple, a moderator can't remove threads with 50+ posts without knowing they were doing it, unless of course the software suffers a numeric error when dealing with another request. (There is no MD5 hashes for post/thread evaluation, so one error in numerics is enough for the software to purge the wrong thread.)
In essence it could quite easily be a rare software bug (or an Injection attack), which I hope we don't find itself repeating too often in the forums or we are going to have a real problem.
As for motives of it's removal? Just because a poster has spent years on a forum and lost appreciation of the place or the people that moderate it, doesn't mean that their discussions over time didn't have any merit. That's one of the main reasons why you don't see moderators/administrators purge posters discussions when they leave either by choice or force. (It would lead to broken discussions, bust links, people complaining about missing posts/threads etc. So in the long run we keep most of them, occasionally some might find their way to cesspooling but that's what we do so it stays rather than deletion)
As for the thread topic... it's just another thread, a discussion, it's importance is only seen by how topical it is (I was actually indifferent to LENR as a subject, in the early part of the thread a played a roll [Devils advocate] to try and produce a greater discussion than just leaving it to a pet theory of a posters that got ignored.)
Ah no!, likely the inanimate over-unity engine in the perpetual motion closed-system room. (The who/why is the mystery)billvon said:
Odd that it happened just as he left, but coincidences happen all the time.
It's most likely, as you say, some glitch.
Maybe he zapped it himself with some kind of psychic attack.
(Just kidding.)
It's most likely, as you say, some glitch.
Maybe he zapped it himself with some kind of psychic attack.
(Just kidding.)
Removed.
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